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reply posted on 14-8-2011 @ 09:37 PM by Xcalibur254
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I say this is an old article that has been discussed to death on here since February. Even when it was first published people misinterpreted what it said. I will summarize what this is actually about. There are two astronomers from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette named Matese and Whitmire. They have hypothesized that there could be a large planet in the Oort Cloud which they have named Tyche. Tyche would be 25,000 AU away and come no closer. As of right now there is absolutely no evidence for the existence of Tyche. Matese and Whitmire stated that if it exists it could show up in the WISE data. To date no such object has been found in the WISE data. That is the extent to this topic.


reply posted on 14-8-2011 @ 09:41 PM by XplanetX
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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post by ButterCookie



I say this is an old article that has been discussed to death on here since February. Even when it was first published people misinterpreted what it said. I will summarize what this is actually about. There are two astronomers from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette named Matese and Whitmire. They have hypothesized that there could be a large planet in the Oort Cloud which they have named Tyche. Tyche would be 25,000 AU away and come no closer. As of right now there is absolutely no evidence for the existence of Tyche. Matese and Whitmire stated that if it exists it could show up in the WISE data. To date no such object has been found in the WISE data. That is the extent to this topic.




Who has control of the WISE data?


reply posted on 14-8-2011 @ 09:55 PM by Xcalibur254
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Presently, as WISE was a NASA mission they have first crack at the data. After that the data will be available to other astronomers. Of course, now you're going to try to claim that's proof of Nibiru/Tyche. Regardless of your preconceptions regarding NASA, the fact remains that out of the entire astronomical community only two scientists are supporting the Tyche hypothesis and those scientists are Matese and Whitmire, the two who came up with the hypothesis. And on top of that even if their hypothesized object exists it would never come closer than 25,000 AU.


reply posted on 14-8-2011 @ 10:17 PM by XplanetX
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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post by XplanetX



Presently, as WISE was a NASA mission they have first crack at the data. After that the data will be available to other astronomers. Of course, now you're going to try to claim that's proof of Nibiru/Tyche. Regardless of your preconceptions regarding NASA, the fact remains that out of the entire astronomical community only two scientists are supporting the Tyche hypothesis and those scientists are Matese and Whitmire, the two who came up with the hypothesis. And on top of that even if their hypothesized object exists it would never come closer than 25,000 AU.




This guy is from NASA so he must be telling the truth, right?



Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially
denied.
Otto von Bismarck.



Maybe he has not bumped into this bloke?




Both of these men work for the same agency, one is sending a message to the public, one is sending a different message to the employees of NASA.



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reply posted on 14-8-2011 @ 10:21 PM by RadicalRebel
Originally posted by Pauligirl
Originally posted by Komodo
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post by XplanetX



well.. so .. here's my logical thinking.. again..

Why are they JUST saying this now when Hubble as been out there SINCE 1990~!!!!



It's not been seen with Hubble. It's not been seen with WISE either. In fact, it hasn't been seen at all.
And as far as I know, Matese and Whitmire are the only ones that think it exits.


Nope ... they are not the only ones... and at last check all of the wise data is not scheduled to be released until next year (2012) and also to add, while i do beleive in the possibility of a panet X / Tyche type body in or near ur solar system i am NOT a proponent for "Nibiru"


reply posted on 14-8-2011 @ 10:34 PM by RadicalRebel
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
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post by Nomad451



Well, the little snippet of data I just posted is straight out of the Jet Propulsion Labs databases over the past few days. it just so happens I've been working this night and day for a few days to answer this whole thing for myself once and for all...but Check the JPL site. All the objects are there and the dates are what I have listed up there. I have notebooks of this stuff now... ugh..


lol, yeah man, that was me back i march, now i feel like i have a vetted interest in C2010/X1, if i don get good pics (like when i missed Halley's last pass) i gonna be pretty disappointed...



reply posted on 14-8-2011 @ 10:42 PM by RadicalRebel
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please refer to the OP of this thread for further reading....

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reply posted on 14-8-2011 @ 10:49 PM by Aliensun
You won't believe it, but here is the real gist of the story from that article:

"Professors Matese and Whitmire first proposed the existence of Tyche to explain why many of these long-period comets were coming from the wrong direction. In their latest paper, published in the February issue of Icarus, the international journal of solar system studies, they report that more than 20 per cent too many of the long-period comets observed since 1898 arrive from a band circling the sky at a higher angle than predicted by the galactic-tide theory.

No other proposal has been put forward to explain this anomaly since it was first suggested 12 years ago. But the Tyche hypothesis does have one flaw. Conventional theory holds that the gas giant should also dislodge comets from the inner Oort Cloud, but these have not been observed."

Astronomers don't know what comets really are. And they don't want to recognize where they actually come from. The so-called Oort Cloud is an invention to account for their origin from within the solar system. That is way off the mark.

Basically, long-period comets come from other stars. The long-period comets they discuss in the article are cometships that come here and return to their stars without stopping. Near the Sun they are inertial bodies and allow the Sun to sling them around to return the way they came. Once at the outer fringe of the solar system, they energize their huge null-mass power units and zip home at plus-light speeds. Almost defies imagination for most of you, right?


reply posted on 14-8-2011 @ 10:59 PM by iamusic
Originally posted by Neopan100
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post by MJZoo



It was a story from February 15, 2011


So this is basically a rehash of the Tycus discovery...Thanx.


reply posted on 14-8-2011 @ 11:11 PM by Xcalibur254
reply to post by ButterCookie



And your point is? Evidence points stars having passed through the solar system in the past. However, it is not a regular occurrence and Gliese 710 is not going to pass through the Oort Cloud for at least a million years. So, what does it have to do with this topic?


reply posted on 14-8-2011 @ 11:22 PM by OuttaTime
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There is a link in that article that goes to NASAs Astrobiology Magazine that goes a little more in depth in discussing Nemesis. More interesting than that is their detection of a body called Sedna. Here's that link.. It also has the same photo shown in the CNN OP, and they talk as though it is real.

A recently-discovered dwarf planet, named Sedna, has an extra-long and usual elliptical orbit around the Sun. Sedna is one of the most distant objects yet observed, with an orbit ranging between 76 and 975 AU (where 1 AU is the distance between the Earth and the Sun). Sedna’s orbit is estimated to last between 10.5 to 12 thousand years. Sedna’s discoverer, Mike Brown of Caltech, noted in a Discover magazine article that Sedna’s location doesn’t make sense.



reply posted on 14-8-2011 @ 11:50 PM by ButterCookie
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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post by ButterCookie



And your point is? Evidence points stars having passed through the solar system in the past. However, it is not a regular occurrence and Gliese 710 is not going to pass through the Oort Cloud for at least a million years. So, what does it have to do with this topic?


Well....

We are basically talking about the likelyhood that this is Nibiru aka Nemesis, not Gliese 710
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reply posted on 15-8-2011 @ 12:35 AM by Phage
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What is Nemesis/Nibiru?
The article you reference is talking about Gliese 710. What exactly is your point?
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