Ever clapped eyes on a medico-legal report ? It's not that likely you have . But here is one , of sorts . It must be explained now, that my own bias
as the producer of this thread , is towards Human Rights , all 30 articles of them . There is I hope no personal paranoia in what follows , but I
beleive the following facts need to be seen within a 'worst-case' scenario , in which Human Rights are being obliterated on purpose , in
medico-legal way .
The following exposes those who may wish to abuse our Human Rights further , creating a carte-blanche to carry on doing so, with a view towards
'micro-control' of every single member of society, working within or without of the system itself.. We need to assume that the governors and
law-makers in charge of the 'system' may at some time have at least slightly sociopathic tendencies , if not already . It should be remembered that
the current atmosphere of surveillance culture prevails and may in the facts revealed here grow into dark clouds which truly do threaten us with a
Nazi-style ultra-controlling state. A medico-nazi style nightmare , for all of us .
Introduction : The Powers The 'Psychs'
The area where medicine and law overlap , is being heavily exploited . This investigation will attempt to identify just what is being made possible ,
through the powers that the NHS have , and through the channels by which the NHS is being controlled . We will identify the other agencies being used
to enforce these new powers , and how they all have a central controlling feature - psychiatry .
Through psychiatrists, some of the highest paid 'professionals' in the world of medicine , the entire population of the UK is now potentially
subject to arbitrary arrest and detention , for indefinite periods . Why? Because if psychiatrists decide that you , no matter who you are , need
their 'help , support and advice' , they can take you from wherever you are , and make sure that you receive it .
"NOOOO !!" I hear you say , "IT CAN'T BE !!" as you are being dragged into an ambulance, by the police , en route to the 'funny farm' , for a
"OH YES ," says Churchill the British Bulldog , and "Yes We Can" says Obama too . But our investigation remains on British soil for now .
Forensic psychiatry is a sub-speciality of psychiatry and an auxiliar science of criminology. It encompasses the interface between law and psychiatry.
A forensic psychiatrist provides services – such as determination of competency to stand trial – to a court of law to facilitate the adjudicative
The example put of the services an FP (Forensic Psychiatrist) provides , is but a tiny relevance to the true implications this profession can carry
against people . For example , if a criminal claims to be insane rather than answer to his crime in prision , and the FPs agree , he is going to be
spending some more time with the FPs , within the units they run . These have 3 categories - high secure , medium secure , and low-secure . One more
step down is towards the Psychiatric Intensive Care Units (PICU s) which also are surrounded by high fences , and work closely with the Forensic
departments , usually on the same sites .
Direct from Court , or through services known as 'prision inreach' , are not the only routes in to FP wards . People can be 'sectioned' (Mental
Health Act) directly into Forensic Services from being 'free' citizens , or can be moved from PICU to Forensics , if it is deemed necessary .
A critical issue to those drawn into picu or forensics, is what is the route out ? Well to address this directly , there is no route out , unless the
'doctors' decide you can be discharged . You can appeal to a tribunal for your release , but those who decide on your case will be 3 : a
psychiatrist , a magistrate , and a social worker .
At the tribunal you will be subject to a doctors report outlining why you are not to be released. Your solicitor will put to the tribunal why you
should be released . This is the first area of common ground to be investigated . And this is the hardest aspect for those who wish to retain you
indefinitely in some cases , to 'sew up' . The common ground is here : all 3 are paid and selected for their positions by the same common players :
the social worker and the doctor are paid by the NHS and recruited through Primary Care Trusts , so if the Dept of Health can place these correctly ,
there is no way you can be released , by majority verdict . The loose cannon , is the magistrate , but who pays her? The Ministry of Justice . And who
is also under the selection regulations of this Ministry? Forensic Psychiatrists ; therefore hemmed in you remain . And you already had to wait
several months, for another tribunal, according to the laws . 'Medicine' enforced by law ; the medico-legal nightmare .
The ultimate common ground between Health Ministry and Justice Ministry is the cabinet office , chaired by the deputy prime minister . So God help you
if you become a political prisoner in this way . Several fundamental Human Rights , just bit the dust .
The Forensic Psychiatrists
A medico-legal report , is not something you personally ever want to be subject to . The 'team' which produces this , are literally the new spies ,
with untold powers over the collation of many many records held on you , in combination with your medical files . If you happen to not be diagnosed
with a mental disorder , these teams can arrange that you do become diagnosed . This is another tricky area to 'sew up' , however in these days of
micro-control, it can now easily be arranged to prove that a study conducted on your behaviour reveals a condition which cannot be left to go
untreated . Information which 3rd parties have provided on you is not available to you even by request of your records ; now you are left being
questioned over factors you had no idea they were still holding against you . You argued with your wife during your previous marriage , your
neighbours phoned with concerns you were beating her . Police overhead you shouting and recorded concerns for your mental health . They left when they
heard your altercation had subsided, from outside your house. Now you must be detained without even knowing this because it is in the interests of
both her safety and your own , and it is a matter of 'managing risk' to protect society ; you are potentially a violent offender , you must now
remain in our custody . While we assess that 'fact'.
The Team ; (multi-agency aka stasi)
Now the 'team' have this information , and have carried out further surveillance and made you paranoid while doing so , you are to be sectioned . A
doctor (GP) , a psychiatrist , and a social worker will accompany the police to your location , or the police will detain you on a section 136 for the
interview They will peruse any files they wish before hand > you have a penchant for expensive kitchen knives, it seems from your list of receipts .
You are asking , why is this happening? We cannot give out legal advice , but you may contact your solicitor , as long as the police phone the right
one up in time .
While you are in 'hospital' , you will bcome familiar with the following terms : (HR view translations ascribed)
Service User (you) - The prisoner
Admission - Detention
Care - Control/subjection to medications/the hidden agenda
Service Provision - Enforcement
Observations (Obs) - Continual surveillance / seeking incriminating evidence
Illness - The disease you are assigned for life by psychiatric opinions and 'feelings'
Treatment - 'what happens' to people diagnosed 'mentally ill' under sections of the mental health act 1986/2007
While you are there , if you are questioning at all the fact you are there , the term 'lack of insight' will be assigned to your mentality. The same
if you question the authority and qualifications of the enforcers to which you will be subject to 24/7
If you try to refuse treatment .care medication of any sort , , the term ' non-compliance' will apply to you . This will mean that you cannot be
trusted, and will remain without hope of any discharge , becasue it will be 'felt' that you cannot be 'managed' correctly as a service user in the
wider environment .
Last but not least , you will know and see this term in action - Control and Restraint (C&R) . Just so you realise there is no getting out of it . In
'de escaltion' you likely to be injected with a drug the effects of which last several days , or immediately 'put to sleep' . You will not be
asked to read the label before using these pharmacuetical creations.
So at this point , how many of your 30 original human rights are left ? This may be a good question to answer in replies .
Yesterday I read a research paper (one of very few) investigating the subject of low-secure forensic wards . It analysed a selection of individual
patients and collated their experiences as service users . I am running out of time but I will post the relevant links if people wish to read it .
In summary of this paper , I gleaned the pertinent facts . The study found group themes of
1 . Sense of vulnerability
2. Sense of powerlessness
3. An sense of interuption of life
4. A sense of meaninglessness
All the service users , or should i say prisoners , felt they had been 'taken away' and that their experience , in the hospital ward , under the
governance of doctors, nurses , and health-care assistants , beleived that what was happening to them was in fact a punishment . Another over-riding
theme was mistrust . Mistrust of everybody .
Equation of illness and punishment , is the world of medico-legal professionals like forensic psychiatrist , yet exactly the same processes and
situation apply to those detained in a PICU , who have likely never committed any crime . It is really all about this
Managing Risk . If they can invent a feeling that you are a risk to others , or a risk to yourself , then the measures used against your rights and
freedoms are viewed , self-righteously ,as Protecting Society or the primary goal of the NHS ; your CARE .That really is the crux of it . They really
care about making sure you dont have access to your rights . Any of them .
Hope and pray you do not get subsumed into this system . If you do , request your medical records and any rights you do hold , like a solicitor ,
immediately . Remember there are 'mystery shoppers' going into this environment . To finish the thread , and provide further insight , I have
brought from the study some factors which may please these people (from FPs to HCAs) who are making 'notes' on you , all day every day .It is up to
you which 'frameworks' you use to understand the following , as per the preface/description of rights methodology .
Decide on and reply if you wish , which framework applies here >
Containment and Persecution vs Recovery and Respite
Consider in light of the above choice the security distinction between what the clinicians decide and the therapy that they provide .
Take note :
It is expected of service users , to
Integrate their experiences into their identity and ways of understanding the world
Develop an empowered identity of competance and agency
Recognise the 'problem'
Transform themselves to fit with new circumstances
Use MH services to aid 'transformation'
Reach out to others for support
Integrate their experiences and take part in interventions
Have beleif in their own sense of self-efficacy
It is expected of service users, not to
Deny or seal over their mental illness
Minimise actions or deny responsibility
Excuse or justify wrong actions or have ddenial issues
Be passive through the process
In view of the above , and other issues not here mentioned ,such as stigma connected to mental ill health and the professionally held view of
psychosis being dangerous and 'other' from illness like depression ,
I will point out that when people are shamed , as they continually are by the constant 'knowing better' of professional and health care plus legal
views and opinions of them , they suffer shame from denial of their rights (like seeing their families) . People who are shamed feel inferior ,
powerless, vulnerable to punishment , and unattractive . My last comment not addressed by any study available to us and likely as ignored as possible
- what of the psycho-sexual health of service users . How , with all that is expected of these people alledged to SUFFER with mental health 'issues'
are they ever going to escape ?
What is possible with this investigation's puposes in mind , is the ending of all human rights , all democracy , all justice , all freedom .
'Feelings' replace facts and evidence as soon as a system such has this has gripped you . It does not matter if you 'feel' that your notes are
wrong . The door to the medico-nazi world of micro-control is now standing wide open
I hope you have enjoyed reading this and it serves to enrich the content of ATS .
Do use a search for related links , ie Ministry of Justice , Department of Health , Mental Health Act , MI5
Forensic Psychiatry /psychology / mental health particularly psychotic disorders .
Look up the psychotic condition , Delusional Disorder , and realise that this new disease is anyone's condition , applicable to anyone it should
choose . All it needs is a 'host' psychiatrist or two , and you will NEVER get rid of its paracitism . One last fact , lest you forget , your
medical records are held for 125 years . Stay friends with your GP .
zipmatt Aug 2011