Originally posted by iSwag
If you apply for a job and submit an application, ALWAYS follow through with your application and the business. Call them back, show them that you are
really interested in the job. Businesses LOVE when people check in on their application status because it shows that they are committed. Never say you
can't get a job.
Not always the case. In fact, in my line of work, most companies do NOT want you pestering them about the position. In the last week I've probably
put in about 35 resumes and filled out over 15 applications. Pretty much every single one said explicitly NO PHONE CALLS ABOUT THIS JOB. This has been
the case the entire time I've been looking for work. The ones that don't say that I'll call back in 4 days or so after putting an app in. I got
mixed up once and called a company that said "no phone calls" The HR lady was extremely rude and said something along the lines of "Did you even
read the ad? We said NO phone calls, goodbye" and she hung up on me.
I've been looking for work for quite some time now, and nothing is off limits to me. I used to be in Factory and warehouse management positions.
I've applied to every single Safeway, Fred Myer, Walmart, Winco, Home Depot, etc in my area because I can't find work in my field. They all told me
not to call, except for Safeway. I called Safeway up a little after putting my app in, and they said "sorry we don't take phone calls, you have to
come in and talk to a manager" So I did. I asked for the manager, told her I put an app in and was inquiring about the position. My conversation was
about 20 seconds with her. She said if they want me to come in for an interview they'll call, and then walked off.
Different industries different practices. So no, calling and harassing them isn't always the best idea. In my case, they specifically tell you to NOT
do that in the majority of cases.
Originally posted by boncho
Even if it was a genuine layoff, the company still chose you over it's other employees to layoff.
This is not always true, either.
I was laid off, and it was NOT the choice of the company. In fact, the company tried to keep me on, and got in trouble for doing so.
It was a union position, and everything went by seniority. The company laid off around 40 people IIRC, and about 10 of the people that got laid off
had more seniority that I did. As per union rules, they have to lay people off based on their date of hire. The newest people get laid off first,
I was excellent in my position, and the company kept me over the 10 people who had more seniority than me. The union got involved and threatened the
company, since they didn't follow union rules of laying off the newest people first. So, they had to put my position up for bid to the 10 people with
more seniority than me. One of them took my position, and I was laid off. I was good friends with many of the people still there, and they would tell
me how my department went down hill after I left. The company's management tried to bargain with the union to bring me back, but they wouldn't
budge. They told me if they hire people back, my old job would be waiting for me. They have since laid off over 50 more people, so obviously that
The company went so far as to attempt to hire me on as a salary non-union employee. They union wouldn't have it, as my position as laid out in the
union contract was to be held by union employees only, not salary employees.
So, just because someone gets laid off doesn't mean their employer chose someone else over them. Pretty much any time it's a union position, who
gets laid off is almost never a choice, it's just the newest people. That's how it's been in every single union job I've had.
Originally posted by CaDreamer
give me a lawnmower and a weed whacker and i can earn 200 dollars a day easily.
That's good for you. Because you can do it, that's absolute proof it will work anywhere in the country.
Every couple of weeks there is a guy that knocks on my door and asks if he can mow my lawn. He only asks 10 dollars. I've had him do it a few times
as I felt bad for him and wanted to help him out, even though I'm barely getting by right now by doing odd jobs and temp work here and there. Last
time he came by I had absolutely no money and couldn't help him out. Me and him chat a little bit when he comes around, one time he stopped by around
3pm. He said he had been out since 8 that morning, covered several miles, and said he had ONE person hire him. Almost a full 8 hours and only ONE
person in a huge area hired him.
So should I do that? Should I go mow lawns? Knowing there is someone else in my direct area that can't even make more than $10 a day?
People need to stop judging other people's situations. You know, the whole country isn't in the exact same position as you. They don't all have the
same opportunities and chances that you do. People talk about lazy Americans. You must have a lot of lazy people in your area that can't even cut
their own grass if you can make $200 a day doing that. Sorry, but not everyone lives in an area where they can make money doing that.
Please realize that things are different all over. To think that the issue is just a bunch of lazy people that don't want to work is ridiculous. I
don't know where all you people live, I'm in Oregon so our employment options might be more limited than yours, but things are really bad here. The
paper, craigslist, job search websites, they all have a TINY TINY fraction of the jobs they used to. Add in the places that WONT HIRE THE UNEMPLOYED,
ask for extreme amounts of experience or education for entry level positions, not even offering full time work, or a wage that allows you to even get
gas to drive to work and eat a few meals, and the outlook is bleak.
People want to work, but they also want to earn a fair wage and be treated like decent human beings and not slaves. You really don't think they
should be upset about doing work "on their own time" It's THEIR time for a reason. Why on earth should you do work when you aren't getting paid
for it, especially if the company treats you like crap and doesn't even pay that well when you are actually on the clock?
I see the brainwashing is working well. It's not that decent positions are disappearing faster than people are dying, it's just that those scumbag
working class people are lazy! How dare they expect to be paid a living wage and treated fairly!