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Sacrifice - The Ultimate Act of Cowardice

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posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 05:20 AM
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Many whom are familiar with "occult" circles can see the existence of sacrifices - the question remains, the paradox, in essence:

Acceptance of the darker side of life
Fear of the darker side of life
Sacrifices thus being the brave whom have to accumulate and channel the collective fear of those performing the sacrifice.

For example, those afraid of being persecuted by a higher "God" will make a sacrifice to that "God" to save themselves - those that fear action X will inflict action X upon the innocent so that they both:

A) Are under the impression they can evade the same treatment
B) Are comfortable that the sacrifice will not be able to rebel

The truth is, many who perform such actions are fearful, it is fear, the primeval "pick him instead" that is engrained in the pyche of the weak, the strong, being those who will endure so that others must not.




posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 05:40 AM
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Originally posted by SystemResistor
Many whom are familiar with "occult" circles can see the existence of sacrifices - the question remains, the paradox, in essence:

Acceptance of the darker side of life
Fear of the darker side of life
Sacrifices thus being the brave whom have to accumulate and channel the collective fear of those performing the sacrifice.

For example, those afraid of being persecuted by a higher "God" will make a sacrifice to that "God" to save themselves - those that fear action X will inflict action X upon the innocent so that they both:

A) Are under the impression they can evade the same treatment
B) Are comfortable that the sacrifice will not be able to rebel

The truth is, many who perform such actions are fearful, it is fear, the primeval "pick him instead" that is engrained in the pyche of the weak, the strong, being those who will endure so that others must not.


if we all give then we all recieve... the universe does seem to like being cyclical, and if you are willing to give something up, you are more willing to receive in return. this is the basics of alchemy. even as simply as sacrificing your own precious time on this earth to do something... or your own precious energy to emotionally think about something... creates the alchemic transmutation and your dedication will be rewarded in some way.

more profound sacrifices... such as blood, or something's life or spirit even, create more profound affects, and that's why dark magic is so much more dangerous and chaotic.

you make sacrifices to your vessel every day by eating because you are afraid of being persecuted by death... the exchange is always the same. a person's belief is their belief and whether or not they're a coward is your perception and not your judgement. if you don't make a sacrifice.. then you are the sacrifice.



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 05:53 AM
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I do not agree with the logic that a sacrifice is the ultimate act of cowardice...suicide is the ultimate act of cowardice....sacrifice for the sake of betterment for others on the other hand is the ultimate act of bravery



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 06:03 AM
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Yes - those that make a sacrifice, must at one stage in thier future, be a sacrificee.

I think you can understand, why many wear "masks" - it is to protect themselves from the vengeful soul, although an innocent soul will not be vengeful and will thus return to the higher planes of existence where such acts are unheard of.

In structured hierarchies, where control of the masses exists through indoctrination and behavioural control, the masters are the ones whom are essentially, the last to be repayed for thier actions - it is a glorious thing, when the old orders collapse under the weight of thier own depravity.
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posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 06:23 AM
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Never trust anyone who is afraid of their own god.



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 06:37 AM
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The truth is, many who perform such actions [sacrifices] are fearful, it is fear, the primeval "pick him instead" that is engrained in the pyche of the weak, the strong, being those who will endure so that others must not.


I'm a little unsure whether you are referring to human sacrifice or just any of varied sacrifices in general.

Off the top, human sacrifice is a familiar concept that weighs the life of one, for the benefit of many. If it is self sacrifice, then most times we will immediately see it as noble. But if we sacrifice the life of another so that we may survive, then there is, at the very least a sum of regret and at worst, a great deal of disdain.

Beyond that, sacrificing animals and various sundry inanimate objects such as foods or goods, is equally familiar. For those of us who believe in a deity, it is not at all unlike paying your monthly electric bill or insurance premium. We give something we have worked and toiled to produce in exchange for... whatever we hope or expect in return.

One part of the human condition is our inborn instinct to survive. The challenge is realized when faced with the choice of measuring the cost of that survival. People have cut off their own limbs to free themselves from some predicament in order to live on, even in a hobbled state. But when we cut those limbs off of another so that we may make that same escape, we fail the test of our humanity and return to a life that we didn't make the payment to keep.

These very same concepts are applied each and every single day.

On one of those days, you may find yourself driving down the highway and see a small animal in the road, frozen in your sights... the choice will be to make a drastic course alteration that threatens your automobile's paint job and perhaps your own good health, or just sacrificing that critter and going on about your journey.

Most people run over the animal... but then don't bother to stop to ask themselves what they might have done had than been a person in the road.

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posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 06:58 AM
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Well said, self sacrifice through hard work is the best source of reward. If you want to kill go work in a abattoir otherwise you are just being psychopathic.



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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Yesterday I heard Rick Perry speaking about Seal Team 6, saying that it's good that we have sacrificial people like them.

I just thought it strange he referred to them as sacrifices.



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by shayanmh
I do not agree with the logic that a sacrifice is the ultimate act of cowardice...suicide is the ultimate act of cowardice....sacrifice for the sake of betterment for others on the other hand is the ultimate act of bravery


How can you be convinced it is for the sake of betterment for others? You just can't know what they will do in the future and if your change really was the best. Maybe you sacrificed something you needed a few years later to do something opposite that you at that moment will perceive as for the sake of betterment for others. What happens if you commit suicide for the sake of betterment for others is that cowardly bravery or brave cowardice?

The only thing ultimate I see in this thread are concepts made up by man. But that is just life. Concepts die with man.



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 02:58 PM
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Often wondered when reading the Bible ..of the burning of cattle and sheep on the alter
Were they feeding God ??



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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This thread is mis-titled.

You are referring to Sacrificial offering. Sacrifice in the general sense as it is used today is giving up a lessor value for a greater value.



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by juveous
This thread is mis-titled.

You are referring to Sacrificial offering.


Such is called paganism
Most religions operate on this principle.
You can petition the lord with almost anything.

Which is why they are all false and nothing more than
political terrorist cults and should be treated as such.



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 02:21 AM
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Often wondered when reading the Bible ..of the burning of cattle and sheep on the alter Were they feeding God ??


They were feeding the people with the holy BBQ.

When you have to kill your own meat you start to understand the value of saying grace for the sacrifice that has been made.

When you want to kill just for a belief you are valuing a perception more than reality. By demonstrating that you do not have a close connection to what you can clearly sense, you are at a disadvantage with the more subtle senses.




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