Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by Onboard2

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There is no way Gnosticism could be classified as satanism, unless the Christ would be included in that. According to gnostic beliefs, a savior is required to redeem the people and lead them out of the material world.

Incidentally, Ehyeh asher ehyeh is the first of 3 responses given to Moses when he asks god's name. Ehych is the first-person singular imperfect of Hayah, 'to be'. Ehyeh is usually translated " I will be" and denotes action not yet completed. It's "I am what I am becoming". Moses had the perfect childhood as far as his destiny as law giver.

What does this have to do with anything?

War and desolation are not abstract.

The Gnostic habit of taking Biblical motifs - like the snake, and reinterpreting them in conformiy with Pagan beliefs, just shows you what kind of people they are. And indeed, many 'gnostics' or pagans today actually think the Torah is Gnostic allegory - when it is anything but that to anyone who actually KNOWS what the proper metaphysical exegesis is.

Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by Onboard2

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Are you serious? If i wanted to, i could turn picking my nose and eating my snot into metaphysical allegory. lol

Its allegory. I knowm because i study Torah.

You may not like to hear that, because it damages your preconceived notions about the bible, but, thats just how it is.

Did it also happen on the physical plane, as the Rabbis would suggest, and as implied by the Exegetical formula PaRDeS??? Yes. [/Quote]


By your definition, everything is allegory, even if it is disgusting. If everything is a reflection of man's inner perception, then obviously this caused the fall into the material world of....allegory? Seems real to me. War has gone on for centuries.

As far as my preconceived notion of the bible, I think some of it can be taken literally, as far as the many wars through the centuries, but the NT is mainly allegorical.

I honestly have no use for the OT and the Jewish god.

They give you a fictitious understanding of reality. While they retain knowledge of the cosmos - metaphysics, mysticism - they give their followers LITERAL, and simple explanations for what the gods were. But none - except initiates - knew that they were merely representations for cosmic phenomena.

Throughout the world, ancient rites and rituals are believed to connect humans to another dimension. But just who--or what--are we communicating with? Could today's rituals, such as festivals, coronations and funerals, be based on early man's attempts to emulate ancient alien visitors? If so, what other ancient rituals might find their roots in a kingdom--not of this world?

Could gold be the ultimate link between humans and aliens? A church in southern France is said to hold the key to alchemy--and a gateway to another part of the universe. Locals in Cusco, Peru believe UFO sightings are connected to lost gold at the bottom of Lake Puray. And some believe underneath the Great Sphinx of Giza lies an entire library left behind by extraterrestrials--a library stored on gold.

Ptaah is about 775 (Earth) years old and has three children, two daughters by the names of Semjase and Pleija and one son by the name of Jucata who is no longer alive. His father was called Sfath and one of his nieces is Asket. Ptaah is the commander of the Plejaren spacecraft fleet and is vested with the rank of an Jschwjsch, (JHWH), which is comparable in meaning to a king of wisdom. In earlier times, this term was translated as God, not in the sense of creator but as a king of wisdom who has the duty to provide his peoples with help and advice. He also presides over other inhabited planets but may never assume the role of despotic ruler, which happened on earth to some extent in earlier times. At the present time, Ptaah presides over three different planets, two of which are known to us as Erra and Terra (earth).

In Ancient Egyptian Religion, Ptah (Egyptian ptḥ, probably vocalized as Pitaḥ in ancient Egyptian [1]) was the deification of the primordial mound in the Ennead cosmogony, which was more literally referred to as Ta-tenen (also spelled Tathenen, Tatjenen, etc.), meaning risen land, or as Tanen, meaning submerged land, though Tatenen was a god in his own right, before being assimilated with Ptah. Ptah also is referred to as the noble Djed. It was said (in the Shabaka Stone) that it was Ptah who called the world into being, having dreamt creation in his heart, and speaking it, his name meaning opener, in the sense of opener of the mouth. Indeed the opening of the mouth ceremony, performed by priests at funerals to release souls from their corpses, was said to have been created by Ptah. Atum was said to have been created by Ptah to rule over the creation, sitting upon the primordial mound.

Due to her exceptional knowledge, which far exceeds the average of her home population, she has assumed the rank of half-Jschrjsch, which means a half-queen of wisdom or a half-goddess, as they were called earlier on earth (and which can be read about, for example, in Greek legends). Having occupied herself with various matters on our planet years before taking up contact with Billy Meier on January 28, 1975, she is by far the best-oriented extraterrestrial concerning our situation on earth.

Samyaza (Aramaic: שמיחזה, Greek: Σεμιαζά) also Semihazah, Shemyazaz, Sêmîazâz, Semjâzâ, Samjâzâ, Shemyaza, and Shemhazai. is a fallen angel of apocryphal Jewish and Christian tradition that ranked in the heavenly hierarchy as one of the Grigori (meaning "Watchers" in Greek). The name 'Shemyaza[z]' means 'infamous rebellion', the combination of 'shem' [meaning 'name' or 'fame' {whether positive or negative}] + 'azaz' [which means 'rebellion' or 'arrogance' as a negative particle]. Michael Knibb lists him as “the (or my) name has seen” or “he sees the name”. The interesting thing about the second interpretation is there is a tale about Semjâzâ knowing the explicit name of God and making a deal with a human Istahar to tell her the name.