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Granted the Greys appearance must be a sort of metaphor, particularly their neoteny (feotus like appearance) - but this seems to be a feature of most intra- dimensional phenomina - and as described by the Gnostics - these are beings without volition or imaginal powers of their own, created in a sort of cosmic accident, an error due to the unbalanced fall of the Aeon Sophia.
As to the origins of Judaism - to me Yahwe sounds and acts just like the demented demi-urge - ie a being created by accident devoid of any link to the god head, who suddenly awakes in the primorial chaos of the planetary realm and finding itself alone, imagines itself to be the creator god 'I am that I am'.
Does UN do that? In the scope of my interests on this subject, I've never seen it manifested compulsary.
As in manifested in absolute anarchy; .......I doubt that would function. And so as not to suspected of going to the opposite extreme, I believe that authority should be kept at a minimum. It's a balance.
39. Jesus said, "The Pharisees and the scholars have taken the keys of knowledge and have hidden them. They have not entered nor have they allowed those who want to enter to do so.
As for you, be as sly as snakes and as simple as doves."
28. Jesus said, "I took my stand in the midst of the world, and in flesh I appeared to them. I found them all drunk, and I did not find any of them thirsty. My soul ached for the children of humanity, because they are blind in their hearts and do not see, for they came into the world empty, and they also seek to depart from the world empty.
In conclusion, I myself don't know either.. but there is so much in this world that when viewed symbolically provides great insights into our own mind and psychology. Although when it comes to visitors to this planet, there is just too much evidence that at one time they must have visited us, or we ingested a record amount of hallucinogens and cooperatively hallucinated similarly across the entire planet.
Originally posted by dontreally
It really is getting completely childish that people refuse to accept this explanation.
The ancient gnostics referred to the transcendental God, the God beyond all description, as "alien".
Todays myth makers have created for themselves a cult; the cult of the Grey Alien.
A "grey alien" is a symbol. Like all symbols, the features of the imagery are meant to allude to some metaphysical idea.
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by Onboard2
Gnosticism is pagan. It is a combination of various different ideologies, but it most certainly is not Jewish, albeit, it frames its religion around the antagonist "demiurge", the God worshipped by the Jews.
Gnosticism if like any religion most, it would probably be ancient Egyptian religion. The correspondences between the two, and especially the antagonism showed by Gnostics towards the Jewish God (something most fervent in Egypt) and their desire to be 'free' from his oppresive yoke, even though Judaism didnt directly affect them (or maybe it did? Many Roman historians paint a picture of an early common era Judaism that was involved in proseltyism, or atleast, Judaisms basic ethos appealed to the Roman masses, who these Roman writers referred to as "God fearers") is present in late Egyptian religion, and later on Gnosticism.
I personally see gnosticism as a rebuke of Judaism. The energizing spirit behind it is clearly antinomian; ie, against law, and order, and so was regarded by even the early christian fathers, and even plotinus, a neoplatonist, as unnecessarily radical in its thinking.
It is, in essence, the precursor to modern day Satanism.edit on 2-9-2011 by dontreally because: (no reason given)
There is no way Gnosticism could be classified as satanism, unless the Christ would be included in that. According to gnostic beliefs, a savior is required to redeem the people and lead them out of the material world.
I'm curious as to what the Jewish god was about with the 'holy horrors' and atrocities that were committed in his name. Even after destroying entire peoples, it was just as important to destroy any evidence of a previous god. Remember! He's a jealous god! Men, women, children, but keep the young virgin girls for themselves. Obviously, it's also about stamping out any evidence of any previous god or beliefs.
Incidentally, Ehyeh asher ehyeh is the first of 3 responses given to Moses when he asks god's name. Ehych is the first-person singular imperfect of Hayah, 'to be'. Ehyeh is usually translated " I will be" and denotes action not yet completed. It's "I am what I am becoming". Moses had the perfect childhood as far as his destiny as law giver.