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Originally posted by muzzleflash
Saying someone doesn't understand something is a cop out.
Explain it to them than, clearly and concisely, if you are so enlightened.
But just simply saying "You just don't understand, hahahaha" is lame to the max.
Obviously you can explain things or you cannot. Going around telling people they are wrong without supplying the reasoning that elaborates upon the ideal you are articulating is a very sad and pathetic form of argumentation.
It is by definition Ad Hominem, because you are insulting the messenger while failing to address the argument or it's points directly.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Saying someone doesn't understand something is a cop out.
Explain it to them than, clearly and concisely, if you are so enlightened.
But just simply saying "You just don't understand, hahahaha" is lame to the max.
Obviously you can explain things or you cannot. Going around telling people they are wrong without supplying the reasoning that elaborates upon the ideal you are articulating is a very sad and pathetic form of argumentation.
It is by definition Ad Hominem, because you are insulting the messenger while failing to address the argument or it's points directly.
Originally posted by loves a conspiricy
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Saying someone doesn't understand something is a cop out.
Explain it to them than, clearly and concisely, if you are so enlightened.
But just simply saying "You just don't understand, hahahaha" is lame to the max.
Obviously you can explain things or you cannot. Going around telling people they are wrong without supplying the reasoning that elaborates upon the ideal you are articulating is a very sad and pathetic form of argumentation.
It is by definition Ad Hominem, because you are insulting the messenger while failing to address the argument or it's points directly.
Once again you make up sentences i have never typed.
Where did i say "you just dont understand hahahaha"? Not in this thread thats for sure
I have debunked numerous threads on all different subjects. Im not looking at it from the OPs point of view, im using logic and reason.
I will research, i wont only use the sites provided by the OP, i will look for information myself. This is the easiest way to debunk most subjects.
Here is a link to a list of fallacies . Learn that list, use it against them.
Originally posted by CasiusIgnoranze
It just doesn't make sense to why they would join a conspiracy site to debunk conspiracies...
According to Hardaker, a troll is an individual "who constructs the identity of sincerely wishing to be part of the group in question, including professing or conveying pseudo-sincere intentions, but whose real intention(s) is/are to cause disruption and/or to trigger or exacerbate conflict for the purposes of their own amusement.”
Read more: newsfeed.time.com...
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Originally posted by schrodingers dog
"Belief is the death of intelligence." - RAW
So do you believe that 'belief is the death of intelligence'? Paradox ?
Therefore you don't believe anything, and if you do, you have no intelligence.
That quote is garbage, sorry.
Originally posted by loves a conspiricy
reply to post by Exuberant1
Can you imagine the nonsense this place would be filled with if no one looked at it from a critical perspective?
Originally posted by CasiusIgnoranze
I have noticed a small minority of debunkers (not naming any names) who have only one intention - to debunk every single conspiracy on ATS. This small minority of "elite" debunkers have thousands of stars and posts, all of which are dedicated to debunking at whatever cost (having checked their history of posts and threads).
It just doesn't make sense to why they would join a conspiracy site to debunk conspiracies when the only reason behind it is that they have an agenda or are paid agents by The Powers That Be (TPTB).
These elite debunkers are so perfectly well adapted to ATS and have gathered huge support from ATS users that if they were named, this thread would no doubt be attacked and ridiculed!
Just to clear things up, I don't have a problem with debunkers. But those that make it a mission to debunk/ridicule every conspiracy discussed on ATS since they have joined, is my cause for concern.
edit on 13-8-2011 by CasiusIgnoranze because: .
Originally posted by The Utopian Penguin
reply to post by CasiusIgnoranze
Because they are the Skully to your Mulder.
Embrace it.edit on 13-8-2011 by The Utopian Penguin because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by The GUT
The debunkers are really closet believers waiting for the nugget of proof that never comes. Just kiddin'. Kind of.
Some of the so-called "debunkers" are obviously idiots. Maladjusted malcontent trolls. Just as some of the "believers" are.
But the best of the debunkers are truly your--and my--friend! They champion critical thinking and encourage it in others.
They make us smarter…and a better community. If there were no debunkers here this would truly be a waste of time.
What I'm wondering is: Have any of the ATS debunkers of past/present changed their viewpoints any? As in became more openminded as a result of their interaction here?
Originally posted by silent thunder
Deny ignorance.
Sometimes denying ignorance means accepting conspiracy, sometimes debunking.
While kneekjerk debunkery is just as blind as kneejerk "i wanna believe," ultimately a good skeptic adds real value to the community by pushing everyone to refine their position and bring it closer to the truth.