This is not about "alienizing" others this is about identifying what they really are. Many people like you will not accept it, i know. But feel free to continue believing they are demonic (sub-human) creatures, some people just love being deceived.

Also these so called 'aliens' not making a mass appearance only further add's to the evidence they are respecting the entire human races choices and not enforcing their contact upon those who do not wish it.



Have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe the continually re-edited book of beliefs you adhere to might be wrong on a few things? When someone stops questioning their model of reality and accepts it as solid FACT then they have imprisoned themselves and blocked themsleves off from anything truly divine. This applies equally well to scientific as well as religious models of reality(beliefs).

The only thing any of us can know for a fact is that our models of reality (beliefs) are imperfect. And that is fantastic for that means that the only way is up...baby...for you and me now. Argh...sorry for that, i couldn't help it.


Totally personal opinion:- take or ignore as you see fit

Just for the record, i have been where you are. If that suits you and is what you chose to be then i wish you all the best in the world. For me though, it had far to many self-contradictory, inaccurate and blatantly disprovable rulesets that i could not in all good conscience accept it in to-to as a model, but some of it i could prove to myself as accurate once i had removed the noise out of the way. As an example...when the divine gave the 1st woman and 1st man a skin (physical form) to wear.

Actually if you watch the first 3 minutes of the video you will find out why "Nephilim" actually doesn't mean giants, so you are wrong about them being tall.

I never said 'Giants'. I said Tall. Big difference! Excuse the pun!

Originally posted by stevcolx

Actually if you watch the first 3 minutes of the video you will find out why "Nephilim" actually doesn't mean giants, so you are wrong about them being tall.

I never said 'Giants'. I said Tall. Big difference! Excuse the pun!

So why do you think they are tall?

Originally posted by kayA1
And people wonder why Non-Human Entities do not manifest for all to see.

When a significant proportion of the planet has been taught to demonize that which is different is it any surprise that the only encounters are personal. Larger scale encounters are limited to lights in the sky, sufficient for those who are not open to contact to dismiss them, while those who are open can embrace the experience for what it is. A gentle push at the edge of society...almost as if an-other conciousness is just making itself known at the edge of peoples awareness.

Anyways, peace be with you OP.

So I take it, where you're from, stealthily kidnapping people in the darkest hours of the night, usually against their will, raping their conscious, manipulating their memories and performing weird acts of sexual abuse then dropping them off to be ridiculed as crazy/insane is an acceptable thing to be welcomed with open arms and love?? Wherever you're from that thinks that kind of behavior is normal and acceptable needs a good 'ol NATO napalming.

If I were to say Muslims were doing this, you would call them sadistic terrorists or worse. But swap "muslim" for "ET" and suddenly its a "gentle push" to be "embraced". Lawl

I don't care where they're from or what they are, what they're doing to people all over the world is sick and twisted and the sheep that are telling people they should be ok with it because they're our "space brothers" are huge idiots. This isn't that movie Paul... people are having their lives ruined by these experiences, sometimes traumatically.

Wake up. Take off the rose-colored glasses. Take the facts of the stories of abductions as is and stop sprinkling idyllic kum-buy-yah wishes on top like some kind of pretty garnish.

Btw, I suggest you read up on cases of human mutilations then re-evaluate your whole "space brothers" outlook. These guys, whatever the hell they are, can be worse than mexican drug cartels.

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Originally posted by kayA1
Have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe the continually re-edited book of beliefs you adhere to might be wrong on a few things?

No i don't

Originally posted by kayA1
When someone stops questioning their model of reality and accepts it as solid FACT then they have imprisoned themselves and blocked themsleves off from anything truly divine. This applies equally well to scientific as well as religious models of reality(beliefs).

That just makes you agnostic. I am certain that i have found absolute truth in the bible, there for i don't need to dabble in other world views if i know mines correct. But i don't know what that has to do with this.

Originally posted by kayA1
The only thing any of us can know for a fact is that our models of reality (beliefs) are imperfect. And that is fantastic for that means that the only way is up...baby...for you and me now. Argh...sorry for that, i couldn't help it.

Not at all... there is nothing imperfect about the word of God.

Originally posted by kayA1
Totally personal opinion:- take or ignore as you see fit

Just for the record, i have been where you are. If that suits you and is what you chose to be then i wish you all the best in the world. For me though, it had far to many self-contradictory, inaccurate and blatantly disprovable rulesets that i could not in all good conscience accept it in to-to as a model, but some of it i could prove to myself as accurate once i had removed the noise out of the way. As an example...when the divine gave the 1st woman and 1st man a skin (physical form) to wear.

edit on 13-8-2011 by kayA1 because: spolling for begooners...what is an opionion any way...can i cook and eat it?

Thanks, but you just made a self defeating argument, without God its not possible for you to even have a conscience. i find personally nothing contradictory in the bible, only when taken out of context.

Well i started this thread in the UFO forum but it got moved to the "conspiracy in religion" forum because it has Biblical elements to it which really doesn't do this thread justice since this isn't about a conspiracy in religion its a theory on what 'aliens' really are. But oh well maybe it will get more flags here or something.

Yes Watts, you are right. The **** that has been done to this world and it's people is truly horrific. And once again i speak only after having had my own experiences with Multiple off/other world entities. Including Grey.

The Greys did not, could not understand the impact they were having. As a alien species their emotions, their thought processes are completely different from Humans. The impact upon the psyche of the 'abductee' as well as our physical perception/interpretation of the tools they used was NOT understood. The moment they did, after being educated by another race, they stopped. Their actions are something that they WILL have to answer for however. It was a terrible mistake, but not something unexpected from a meeting of two so completely different races. Whether you believe me or not i know that the Greys have NEVER acted against the will of the person they interacted with. I don't know about you but i can forgive a mistake that comes from inexperience and being outright lied to by the people at the top of the human governance hierarchy. Especially when they do not even have a concept of Lie, no telepathic race can, it is a uniquely Physical phenomena being able to communicate something that is not held as truth by the communicator.

FYI, it is also something that stopped a long time ago, but they were working with human groups, and those groups have continued knowing full well the impact of their actions and turning it to their advantage. These people i do not forgive as it was done and being done with full concious intent. It is these people i reserve my anger for and i feel the same way as you do for what has been done. My forgiveness only goes so far.

Dear OP...The premise and photo you use are shewed.

That is not an actual photo but a computerized fake.

Although the Germans had some brilliant engineers, they didn't have any successful flying disks...otherwise, they would have won WWII...they did not. Even years later after bringing some of the concepts, physicists here to the US, the best we could do was a giant V2 rocket called the Saturn V.

If you believe in God and the Bible... The Nephillum were hybrids of the fallen angels of Genesis 6 and human women.... they were giants. The descriptions given in the Bible point us in that direction...from Goliath, Og- King of Bashan, the descriptions from the recon by the Israelites into Canaan, the ruins and sites of Balbeek and in southern Lebannon, and the accounts given in the Book of Enoch...which was part of the Bible until the middle ages.... even Jesus refers to it. As a man of faith, that's good enough for me.

Now, I do not doubt that subterfuge and deceit will occur to fool the masses, but I do not accept the Greys as demons.... not of Genesis 6.... maybe as more of God's creatures. By all accounts, they are sexless and show no gender... neither are they described as displaying human wants, desires, or lusts... all displayed by the Nephillum of the Bible and Book of Enoch.

Frankly, I think the demonic forces will show themselves in a familiar and seducing manner...non-threatening at first... that is their usual MO.

Sorry, but I do not accept your premise.