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Silly, silly Americans or should I say Comrades?

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posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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this country went wrong when it started looking for the government for the answers

they are the cause so they do not offer any solutions.

when people start looking to within then this country stands a fighting chance.
edit on 13-8-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)




posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by Helious

When exactly did the outrage die out when people piss on our Constitution publicly and in front of the masses?


...it started a little over two hundred years ago with things like genocide of the indigenous, outlawing indigenous religions, forced assimilation of the indigenous, forcing indigenous kids into christian boarding schools to be "civilized" via being beaten / tortured for speaking their language or failing to become a christian... slavery was just as brutal and just as unconstitutional... mormons had to alter their religion as a condition of utah becoming a state and the demand to do so was blatently unconstitutional... the majority of citizens (white mainstream christians) benefitted from those in power who publicly pissed on the constitution, so it just kept building momentum... thats how we got here...



Originally posted by Helious

it does not matter who the president is, it does not matter who controls Congress, the Senate or the House


...agreed because they're loyal only to their puppetmasters and its been that way from the get-go (except in the lies taught to perpetuate the fantasy)...


Originally posted by Helious

every single one of us must say NO when a law, a bill, a regulation, a tax violates our civil rights


...you can scream NO until pigs sprout wings and take to the air but it wont change anything until the elite who control our federal government are removed from society (to leavenworth for the rest of their lives but most dont live in the usofa, so thats problematic)...


Originally posted by Helious

it is why we have this piece of paper, so no more Americans would have to die to be free.


...the military industrial complex has been sacrificing soldiers to promote that fantasy for over 200 years - but - some people dont want to see that cuz it offends their ego or cant see it due to their programming...



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 05:52 PM
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We are all Cultural Marxist Communists now after
50 years of propaganda/programming.
Everyone is equal as slaves, but
where is the workers paradise we
were promised?
We worship billionaires and talk of equality
in the same breath.
It is The New World War III Order.
We have become mindless Comrades
of nothing.
We are heirs to nothing in particular.
Fear and Hunger are next on the menu.

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posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 06:03 PM
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Lets take our country back by force! I am but a simple southern man who does not care for politics. I know the difference between right and wrong but i also understand that destroying evil with violence is not a wrong. Im tired of these hippie apoligist who think their farts smell like sunshine and lemon pledge. March on the capital, remove those in power by force and re-instate what we know is right. Yes people will get hurt and yes people will die, but we all die at some point it is just a matter of how and when. I myself dont want to waste away in a bed having nurses wipe my ass for me, hooked up to machines and being fed meds by the cupful. Hell the government gets its money out of most of our paychecks before we do, yet they dont perform to our standards. Taxation without representation.

Start another revolutionary war! Im all in. Locked, Cocked and ready to Rock, but only if it is a just Cause. Dancing and prancing around monuments to no music only makes you look like an idiot. thats my 4 cents, (increase due to inflation)



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 06:34 PM
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There are 30 million old people on Social Security. There's another +70 million Baby Boomers now getting on Social Security right now.

That's 1/3rd the US population. They all will be DEAD in 5 years.

America's dying. That's why everything is the way it is.



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by StratosFear
reply to post by Helious
 


Lets take our country back by force! I am but a simple southern man who does not care for politics. I know the difference between right and wrong but i also understand that destroying evil with violence is not a wrong. Im tired of these hippie apoligist who think their farts smell like sunshine and lemon pledge. March on the capital, remove those in power by force and re-instate what we know is right. Yes people will get hurt and yes people will die, but we all die at some point it is just a matter of how and when. I myself dont want to waste away in a bed having nurses wipe my ass for me, hooked up to machines and being fed meds by the cupful. Hell the government gets its money out of most of our paychecks before we do, yet they dont perform to our standards. Taxation without representation.

Start another revolutionary war! Im all in. Locked, Cocked and ready to Rock, but only if it is a just Cause. Dancing and prancing around monuments to no music only makes you look like an idiot. thats my 4 cents, (increase due to inflation)


my friend, you are welcome to share my supper any day of the week. this is the kind of spirit i like to see in an American. when y'all are ready to roll please give me the heads-up cause i'll come with. God bless your heart and spirit. standing ready, 24/7.



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by Pervius
There are 30 million old people on Social Security. There's another +70 million Baby Boomers now getting on Social Security right now.

That's 1/3rd the US population. They all will be DEAD in 5 years.

America's dying. That's why everything is the way it is.


Pervius please do check your math. and google 'baby boomer' to see the beginning and end dates. i appreciate your concerns but i'm afraid you may have a little misunderstanding at this time.

the senior citizens of America are the largest voting pool in the country. sadly, that doesn't really mean much, because 'we the people' don't really get to pick the President. but the point is: in 5 years, you're going to have even more retirees then before, and they won't be dead.

NJ is the #2 state for seniors behind FLA, which is where we send them when they're too old to use a snow shovel without hurting themselves. FLA...the promised land. come tour lovely NJ or wonderfully sunny FLA (my gosh i love FLA, so nice!) and you will see the USA has no shortage of elderly. no my friend, those numbers are going to boom. the first baby boomers just began collecting retirement checks 1 or 2 years ago. the 'big wave' has not yet even begun.

and many of those folks got to eat real, whole foods for much of their lives, not the tainted radiated GMO crap we're snorkeling. the 'boomers' are going to be a force to reckon with!

we also have access to good healthcare, medicines and foods in the USA. a lot of the old-timers may out live folks our age. people in their 40's=50's that i know have been dying in droves these past few years. stress is killing many, i kid you not. the beauty part of being retired or elderly is that you realize how few things actually matter in life, and you just don't give a damn anymore. a nice breakfast, a TV show you like, or going to the bathroom without pain becomes the things your day revolve around. younger folks that are in the deep of it, it's sad, but many of them will never live to see retirement.



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 02:40 AM
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I agree alot with most of what you say, one thing that really bothers me, really scares me and literally makes me sick is just how different schools have become since even I was there only 20 years ago. These are not institutions that are in place to teach and guide our children any longer.

Schools have become locked down youth camps where our children have no rights whatsoever and parents have to fear every day there child could make a mistake by bringing a lighter or pocket knife to school with no mal intent whatsoever and end up a felon and scared for life.

These schools have become training grounds to teach our children they have no rights nor can they expect any and they alienate the parents to instill in them a feeling of "nobody can help".



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 02:54 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
this country went wrong when it started looking for the government for the answers

they are the cause so they do not offer any solutions.

when people start looking to within then this country stands a fighting chance.
edit on 13-8-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)


I agree with this completely, no matter how bad things get, government "help" is not the answer. They cause the destruction so we can then look to them to be our saviors and it becomes a catch 22 that divides and destroys the nation and casts people into have and have not roles that support one side or the other of a wholly corrupt government.



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 02:58 AM
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Strange how you are so ready to blame everything on Bush's "election" into power...then, in the next sentence proclaim JFK as your hero. Apparently, you totally ignore the manner in which JFK was "elected", and his family's murky past. Or does the fact that you get shot in the head automatically white-wash all your history, and the manner in which your family, and Party stole the election that gave you all your power?



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 03:24 AM
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S & F

Excellent post, even though no one answer will get us any near to the Truth, if such a thing exists. Maybe the answer is better found in placing good questions, and having a proper look into each persons mirror, if most people can still stand to look at themselves in the mirror. I will attempt certain pointers:
- How can you have a land of free people in an economy of credit, instead of one of debit?
- How can their be any checks-and-balances, by the people, on those that govern them, when ~64% of the population are "Government Crack-Whores"? Like you imply in your excellent post, most people are Government dependent, thus they have traded freedom for some "change". They will blindly fight for the status quo to be maintained, and will demonize anybody that wants to go revert to the American way: working for a living!
- What to make of a Republic that doesn't have the balls to proclaim English as it's official language, for fear of alienating a bunch of people, that hate it, and want to destroy it anyway? Maybe we should all join "La Raza", since they seem to have far more rights then patriotic Americans, and none of the duties.

And my last point sort of puts things into perspective. The fall of the Republic, and the Nation, is basically due to the fact that apparently everybody seems to have thousands of rights, yet nobody seems to have duties!

P.S. » Sorry for any spelling or grammar mistakes...I'm listening to 5 Live Sport, while typing...

"The best way to get answers is looking in the mirror!"



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 03:25 AM
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Originally posted by StratosFear
reply to post by Helious
 


Lets take our country back by force! I am but a simple southern man who does not care for politics. I know the difference between right and wrong but i also understand that destroying evil with violence is not a wrong. Im tired of these hippie apoligist who think their farts smell like sunshine and lemon pledge. March on the capital, remove those in power by force and re-instate what we know is right. Yes people will get hurt and yes people will die, but we all die at some point it is just a matter of how and when. I myself dont want to waste away in a bed having nurses wipe my ass for me, hooked up to machines and being fed meds by the cupful. Hell the government gets its money out of most of our paychecks before we do, yet they dont perform to our standards. Taxation without representation.

Start another revolutionary war! Im all in. Locked, Cocked and ready to Rock, but only if it is a just Cause. Dancing and prancing around monuments to no music only makes you look like an idiot. thats my 4 cents, (increase due to inflation)


And praising the idea of armed insurrection against "the hippies" makes you look so bright.

Take your four cents and put it into a trust to someday get an education.



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 03:55 AM
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And that is the hugest problem in our society: jumping around, like lunatics, pointing fingers in every direction, no matter or ludicrous...it's the bankers...no, the politicians...no, the scientists...no, religion...no, it's big corporations...

Strange how so many people lack the time to stop jumping around, and looking for patsy's, instead of stoping, thinking, and answering the simple questions of life:
- How are My actions contributing to state of things?
- How are my decisions, or lack of, going to impact my children's, and grandchild's future?
- When will I stop being so toxic, clean up my act, and start being a positive presence, and example?
- Why have I permitted so many crimes be committed against my community, myself, my offspring?

Of course, it is always easier, less painful, and less stressful, to just go threw life blaming everything that is wrong on some diluted collective "Evil Entity", alien from the poisoned, and toxic self...after all, don't we have all those great pills, drugs, and alcohol, to keep us from actually having to confront the Shadows that we ourselves project?



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 03:57 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdI
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You had me interested then I checked out your link to how to take America back and what do you know that link wants me to buy stuff. If it was a way to get our country back then the info should be free.

It's like saying I can predict the future and something bad will happen on this day and a lot of people are going to die, want to know what you can do to avoid it? Then pay me and I'll tell you.

It's all a crock of sh*t, if the info is going to help out the world then it should all be free.


Well you did not look at the site very well the second video down called The Solution part 1 and two links to it in full is completely free. I guess if you couldn't look hard enough to see it then you weren't that interested in it anyway...



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 04:16 AM
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Originally posted by dannotz
I am with you. I totally agree with you on how WE let this happen.

One of the things we as a people have to do to reach enlightenment is to take responsibility of ourselves. Don't blame anyone for your shortcomings, blame yourself, and then fix it.

Responsibility.

The only way this one great nation will rise from the ashes like a phoenix is when everyone becomes responsible for their lives, their decisions, what they say, what they do, and how they do it.

If you want to fix this country, fix yourself first.

namaste!


A star for you. Great post.
Very strange how so few people stared it. Maybe that is a symptom of all that is broken. Now if you had accused the "Terminator Conspiracy..."

Most people don't want to know about their responsibility, nor do they want to know how to fix anything. What they want is somebody, or something, to blame, and, above all, a Savior...somebody with a magic wand that will fix anything...preferably without them having to raise their fat asses from the couch...

Glad to see that some people actually care about their role in life, and their responsibilities. Unfortunate to see that how few are still standing...you are, defiantly, one...

for, "In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act".
George Orwell

or, like Oscar Wilde said: "Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.”



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 07:56 AM
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Then i guess your happy sitting back with your thumb up your ass watching the country go down the drain.

So what do you propose we do to fix the country? You slapped down my idea so you MUST be some huge genius that has all the answers. Why dont you grace us with your superior intelligence?
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posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 07:58 AM
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You`ll know as soon as i know friend.



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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Our educational standards are in the toilet because the American right - and # your whining about "partisanship" it goddamned IS the right's fault here -


This comment is a classic example of how we as a people are manipulated. TheWalkingFox through his reading of left leaning articles is absolutely convinced it is the RIGHT who is to blame.

Yet I googled "Dumbing Down America"

And came up with


Dumbing Down America


by Dr. Samuel Blumenfeld

I am often asked to name those educators responsible for the change in primary reading instruction which has led to the decline of literacy in America.....

After twenty-five years of research, I can state with complete confidence that the prime mover in all of theis was none other than John Dewey who is usually characterized as the father of progressive education. Yet the change of the teaching of reading is probably Dewey's greatest contribution to the tranformation of American education from an academically oriented process to a social one.

The progressives were a new breed of educator that came on the scene around the turn of the century....

Dewey's philosophy had evolved from Hegelian idealism to socialist materialism, and the purpose of the school was to show how education could be changed to produce little socialists and collectivists instead of little capitalists and individualists. It was expected that these little socialists, when they became voting adults, would dutifully change the American economic system into a socialist one.

In order to do so he analyzed the traditional curriculum that sustained the capitalist, individualistic system and found what he believed was the sustaining linchpin -- that is, the key element that held the entire system together: high literacy. To Dewey, the greatest obstacle to socialism was the private mind that seeks knowledge in order to exercise its own private judgment and intellectual authority. High literacy gave the individual the means to seek knowledge independently. It gave individuals the means to stand on their own two feet and think for themselves. This was detrimental to the "social spirit" needed to bring about a collectivist society..... www.ordination.org...



To validate this we look to the left and find:

The Death of the Liberal Class examines the failure of the liberal class to confront the rise of the corporate state and the consequences of a liberalism that has become profoundly bankrupted. Hedges argues there are five pillars of the liberal establishment – the press, liberal religious institutions, labor unions, universities and the Democratic Party..... chrishedges.net...



So the "Left" considers Universities, the people who train our teachers, one of the pillars of Liberalism.

However it does not matter whether it is the "Right" or the "Left" BOTH sides are to blame and the "Elite" of course find this just dandy. They are all for the "dumbing down" of the general population. THEIR children go to private schools Like Phillips Academy where they receive a REAL education instead of Government indoctrination in how to be good little "Politically Correct" Sheeple.

The "Elite" have even upped the anti by feeding kids Ritalin and other psychiatric drugs that will have a life long effect. Think about it... It is the brightest students, bored to tears, that are the most likely to act out in frustration in school. These are the kids labeled as having Attention Deficit Disorder. It is not ADD it is boredom because their attention is not engaged by stimulating educational material. These are the kids who would have been the next generation of leaders.


...the United States now consumes 90% of the annual global production of Methylphenidate....

Behavior that is described as ADHD is often first observed by teachers, not parents. Well-meaning teachers, managing oversized classes with ever-diminishing resources, urge parents to place their children on drug therapy. In increasingly well-documented cases, school administrators have told parents that their child may not attend school unless he or she is placed on Ritalin or a similar medication.

In some circumstances, parents who decline to medicate their children are reported to child protective services by school administrators, and must then answer allegations of neglect or run the risk of having their children taken away by the state..... ieet.org...



www.wildestcolts.com...
A recent Time Magazine (10/25/99) article describing a week in a typical American high school, reported the estimate of the school social worker that as many as 20% of the school's students take psychiatric drugs.


So the drugging of children is by no means a small problem. The long term effects are the real concern.


There is reason to be concerned about brain tissue shrinkage as a result of long-term Ritalin therapy, similar to that associated with neuroleptic treatment. A 1986 study by Henry Nasrallah and his colleagues of "Cortical Atrophy in Young Adults with a History of Hyperactivity," published in Psychiatric Research, found the brain pathology in more than half of twenty-four young adults. Since all of the patients had been treated with psychostimulants, "cortical atrophy may be a long-term adverse effect of this treatment" www.sntp.net...


And of course behind it all we find the usual spider lurking in the Web spun to ensnare us whether we are on the right or on the left.
The Rockefeller empire, in tandem with Chase Manhattan Bank (now JP Morgan Chase), owns over half of the pharmaceutical interests in the United States. It is the largest drug manufacturing combine in the world.





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posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 09:52 AM
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I'll just repeat the last sentence from my signature below:
"When you finance and train entities like the CIA in the art of de-stabilising and overthrowing foreign Governments what in gods name makes people think they wont overthrow their own? bush sr h. clinton obama etc just like putins model"

You are now enjoying life as promoted by your own "Foreign Policy".


Truer words were never spoken. Here is the facts that support your theory.


Globa l Governance 2025 Planned by US & EU Intelligence Agencies via Document Obtained Thru FOIA courtesy of Freedom of Information Act, at cia.gov.



The Atlantic Council has a summary HERE

This report analyzes the gap between current international governance institutions, organizations and norms and the demands for global governance likely to be posed by long-term strategic challenges over the next 15 years. The report is the product of research and analysis by the NIC and EUISS following a series of international dialogues co-organized by the Atlantic Council, TPN, and other partner organizations in Beijing, Tokyo, Dubai, New Delhi, Pretoria, Sao Paulo & Brasilia, Moscow, and Paris. ....


'Global Governance 2025′ by US & EU Intelligence Agencies

The National Intelligence Council's 2025 Project



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 10:02 AM
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And praising the idea of armed insurrection against "the hippies" makes you look so bright....


The right and the left are constantly played against eachother so neither side will notice there is a THIRD side pulling their strings.

I really Really REALLY wish the RIGHT wing and the LEFT wing would wake the FRECK up and realize that while they are bickering someone ELSE stole the entire country out from under us!



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