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Independant Grocers bought out by Indians who sack locals to hire their own..is this Ok?.if its true

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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 05:48 PM
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I cannot provide a link because this is fresh news and cannot be verified, so Iam posting it as a maybe event.

I won't disclose the location , except to say it is in Australia.

The question is is this oK if it is happenning?

There are many many young unemployed Aussie citizens in Australia, yet seven/eleven stores are almost all staffed by Indians who are quite clearly recently arrived(ie accents , dress ect) are these mainly young kids even Australian Nationals?

Why am I concerned?

Because I have seen the rioting in the UK, and there are many idle Aussie youth who cannot GET a job.

Whilst the Aussie government allows the importing of foreign nationals who are not even Aussie permanent residents.

It does not take a brain surgeon to figure out that unemployment has contributed to the gang culture /drug use/ rioting in Britain.

How many jobs in Australia have been lost due to the outsourcing of jobs to India and China?

I rang the national search operator on my mobile and was speaking to someone in the Phillipines, they gave me the complete wrong number...yet they have an Aussies job now.

What are we doing now the IGA supermarket company is having stores bought out and staffed by overseas arrivals replacing Australian Citizens ,and throwing 18 to 25 year olds and older on the dole.

It makes me sad for those who will never own a home or be financially independent due to Unemployment.
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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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I think that if they own the businesses, they can hire whoever they want to.

Of course, angry youth will use whatever excuse they have to riot. That doesn't make the shop owners wrong, however.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:01 PM
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considering that you're saying that they're only employing other indians did you stop and think maybe they're keeping it within the family and friends?

nothing wrong with that...I know for a fact it's hard to find good help for businesses like that as most young kids end up stealing from businesses like that...I know not all do...but a large majority do...(i've run a gas station and it's not just limited to the younger ones who will steal)...we went through about 10 employees one year...8 out of 10 of them stole from us...the other 2 we had suspicions...lol so that was a 10 out of 10 year...
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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:05 PM
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Indians are small businessmen - hotels and convenience stores. If they are in your country legally, it's not an issue.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl
I think that if they own the businesses, they can hire whoever they want to.

Of course, angry youth will use whatever excuse they have to riot. That doesn't make the shop owners wrong, however.


In a way the shop owners are wrong. It's not right to fire someone for no other reason than to hire a fellow countryman. I would be willing to bet the people he hired is working for less money also.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl
I think that if they own the businesses, they can hire whoever they want to.

Of course, angry youth will use whatever excuse they have to riot. That doesn't make the shop owners wrong, however.


In a way the shop owners are wrong. It's not right to fire someone for no other reason than to hire a fellow countryman. I would be willing to bet the people he hired is working for less money also.


Well, then the business owners would be INSANE not to hire people who would work for less money, wouldn't they?



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:14 PM
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Yes it's okay, since I see it in every 7-11 owned by an pakistanian, you see it at every Chinese restaraunt and you see it at every Indian casino, so what's the difference?



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:18 PM
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I guess Iam trying to draw attention to the number of jobs dissapearing for low skilled or young people in Australia who were born here or who have emigrated here.
What most replies are failing to acknowledge is that it is morally wrong to make a citizen of any nation unemployed to give that job to a foreign national.
I think any fair minded person would agree.
I love all races, and colours but not to the detriment of my fellow citizens.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:23 PM
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Oh yes.
It's not your f*cked up murderous economic system that causes unemployement and drug abuse, it's Inmigrants!



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by Dr Expired
reply to post by ldyserenity
 


I guess Iam trying to draw attention to the number of jobs dissapearing for low skilled or young people in Australia who were born here or who have emigrated here.
What most replies are failing to acknowledge is that it is morally wrong to make a citizen of any nation unemployed to give that job to a foreign national.
I think any fair minded person would agree.
I love all races, and colours but not to the detriment of my fellow citizens.



It sounds like what you have a problem with is immigration. If it's legal for them to be in your country, then they should be able to be employed.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:24 PM
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If they can hire their Countrymen to do it cheaper, go for it. Many Caucasians won't hire anything but Caucasian and that's accepted on the surface.

Also, whatever a small business owner has to do to survive is ok. I'm a small business owner and if I can shave a dime here and there, I have to.

Too many people think that business owners are well off. Not true. Many of us earn the same and less than if we worked for someone else. Our taxes are higher and the benefits we have to pay employees...don't get me started.

Also, in many cases, that small store down the street from you pays between 3 and 10 times the property tax. Even if it is only in the neighborhood and not in the commercial core.

Now I'm getting angry...


Oh well.

So if he can do it cheaper...all the power to him.




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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:24 PM
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that's almost like buying a company,then laying people off to jack the stock price, how un-american



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by drakus
Oh yes.
It's not your f*cked up murderous economic system that causes unemployement and drug abuse, it's Inmigrants!


You can twist things all you like ,it seems to be a habit growing on ATS, Iam talking about the direct correalation between Indian companies buying up Aussie companies and the rising unemployemnt rate amongst Australian Citizens.
I guess if someone has no feelings for their fellow citizens then seeing them on benefits whilst non citizens take their jobs wouldn't bother any such minded person or persons.
If you could also refrain from suggesting foul language that would be nice also.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:45 PM
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Ok I respect your opinion, hope you are so forgiving of Governemnt policy when it happens to you or your children,
When you find out the person who has taken the job is on a temporary work visa and has only been in the nation for two weeks, broughthere specifically to take that job you aor your child has lost, not because they are better , or can even speak english properly but because they are cheap labour.

If that is racist then this world is potty.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by Dr Expired

Originally posted by drakus
Oh yes.
It's not your f*cked up murderous economic system that causes unemployement and drug abuse, it's Inmigrants!


You can twist things all you like ,it seems to be a habit growing on ATS, Iam talking about the direct correalation between Indian companies buying up Aussie companies and the rising unemployemnt rate amongst Australian Citizens.

I don't agree. I don't share the idea that social inequity has anything to do with inmigration.
Our society works based on social inequity. So it's moot to keep looking for a cause down the road. You already know the cause.
If you want a better, fairer, more just, educated and civilized society, you'll have to put your pants and start working in changing not only your govt. but the socioeconomic paradigm on which it is built.



I guess if someone has no feelings for their fellow citizens then seeing them on benefits whilst non citizens take their jobs wouldn't bother any such minded person or persons.
If you could also refrain from suggesting foul language that would be nice also.

I have feelings for my fellow living stuff.
And this economic system IS f*cked up, what's wrong with that? It's just a word, it wont bite you. I'm not saying that YOU are f'd up, I'm talking about the economic system. I believed it to be pretty clear.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 07:24 PM
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I respect your beliefs and your right to hold them(how gracious of me )....but the equation is simple , and Iam quite clearly not talking about conventional emigration or immigration, I have staed that in previous post, iam talking about the replacement of a nations workforce by people coming on temporary visas to take jobs , that has been made vacant ...by the sacking of the said nations citizens.

I would like to think , citizenship means something as does the sacrifices the young citizens fathers and grandfathers ect made fighting wars , and the hardships their mothers and grandmothers endured in the past, to ensure their nations citizens had a future.

I will go far as to say it is totally reprehensible in my opinion , to employ a recently arrived temp visa worker over a citizen or permenent resident.
Espescially as the temp visa workers send a good proportion of their wages back to India.

In 7/11 shops portable electronic wire transfers can be made direct, guess who is running that show?



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by Dr Expired
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I respect your beliefs and your right to hold them(how gracious of me )....but the equation is simple , and Iam quite clearly not talking about conventional emigration or immigration, I have staed that in previous post, iam talking about the replacement of a nations workforce by people coming on temporary visas to take jobs , that has been made vacant ...by the sacking of the said nations citizens.

I would like to think , citizenship means something as does the sacrifices the young citizens fathers and grandfathers ect made fighting wars , and the hardships their mothers and grandmothers endured in the past, to ensure their nations citizens had a future.

I will go far as to say it is totally reprehensible in my opinion , to employ a recently arrived temp visa worker over a citizen or permenent resident.
Espescially as the temp visa workers send a good proportion of their wages back to India.

In 7/11 shops portable electronic wire transfers can be made direct, guess who is running that show?


I see.
I agree that that practice is wrong.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 07:31 PM
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This is the

New World (War III) Order.


Get used to it or........
You are being reduced to the lowest
common denominator:communist slave.
Immigration that changes the existing
demographic balance is cultural warfare.
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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by Dr Expired
reply to post by ldyserenity
 


I guess Iam trying to draw attention to the number of jobs dissapearing for low skilled or young people in Australia who were born here or who have emigrated here.
What most replies are failing to acknowledge is that it is morally wrong to make a citizen of any nation unemployed to give that job to a foreign national.
I think any fair minded person would agree.
I love all races, and colours but not to the detriment of my fellow citizens.



I'm in the U.S. so I confess I am not up on Aussie rules. BUT, you should determine if there is a law requiring that this person (new hire from out of country) has the legal right to work in your country. I bet there is such a law.
If you do not think that the new hire is likely to have the legal right to work in your country: report them.

Also, don't buy anything there. That's about all you can do.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by Dr Expired

There are many many young unemployed Aussie citizens in Australia, yet seven/eleven stores are almost all staffed by Indians who are quite clearly recently arrived(ie accents , dress ect) are these mainly young kids even Australian Nationals?



Yes , as some one who is currently working in Australia I would agree that youth unemployment is high , though , I think , due more to the general downturn in the global economy .

I offer this link to show that there 2 sides to every coin ....
Can't find a job



The Swinburne University biomedicine and commerce double degree student can speak three languages, has a favourable work history and volunteefor three years for an Australian red aid organisation.


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