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Originally posted by JoeDaShom
From my area actually. He is getting what he deserved. I'm pretty sure one or more than one of those kids committed suicide for being wrongly sent to a detention center... shameful.
Originally posted by DaddyBare
So here's the deal... these two men Ciavarella and his co-defendant, Judge Michael Conahan... conspired to take $2 million in bribes from the builder of the PA Child Care and Western PA Child Care detention centers.
From 2003 to 2008 judge Michael Conahan sent around 5000 kids to Juvy many of them who did nothing wrong... Why you may ask would they do that???
in some cases these private Child detention centers make upwards of $125 per child, per day... you do that math to how much money was made at tax payer expense...
This judge was given 28 years in prison and orders to pay pay about $1.2 million in restitution.... score one for the good guys but look at the damage these two men did to those 5,000 kids.....
being a product of the juvi system i must say, this man should be tortured long and slowly. there is no telling how much damage this man did to those poor innocent kids. i for 1 deserved every moment that i spent locked up. i learned my lesson. what lesson did those innocent kids learn? ill tell you some of them. fear the system, fear the authority figures, fear the government, dont step out of line even in the least degree. i saw something about this story on tv or the web, i do not remember which. was a week or so ago. i will tell you what i learned from my time in the system, dont piss off the cops. EVER. dont EVER step out of line for any reason. there is a cell waiting for you if you do. we live in the prison states of america. dont doubt or forget it. *EVER the only way!!!* they will come and get you. the only way to stop this kind of abuse is to clean out congress and the house of reps, the president, ant ALL of the supreme court. they ALL HAVE YOUR WORST INTERESTS AT HEART! all they care about is making more $$$ from kickbacks like this man did. to the detriment of lives and family. they dont care who they hurt as long as they get more money deposited into their bank accounts. take it from 1 who was in the system, there is no good that comes from locking kids up. you just create harder kids and better criminals. (what do you think we talked about in there? i guarantee it wasnt how we were gonna clean up our lives. i am, out of ALL the people i kept in touch with from those fuxd up day, the only person who did not go to prison. i like my freedom too much. this freedom is at the expense of any initiative to do ANYTHING legal or otherwise. i was taught how to be a wage slave for the rest of my life.) that is the truth of the fact. my experience, as well as anyone i knew from those days, was nothing but horrible. rape, torture, and humiliation is all that goes on in lock up. not just at the adult level, but for preteens and teens. i ask all of you, is this the lesson that we are trying to teach our future generations? CHRIST I HOPE NOT!!! to be honest, my experience still gives me nightmares. i want to leave these united states and renounce my citizenship because of all the abuse that goes on in our corrections system. btw all this took place in alabama. small town called dothan. DO NOT ever move here. it is the MOST corrupt place ive ever lived. and ive lived in 32 states. what can i do about the state of things though? 1 guy who has already been in the system? and the juvi records getting sealed thing is a fuxj joke. the probation officer is corrupt and the judges dont give a flip about anything but sending people to jail and padding their stats as being tough on crime. i messed up i admit it, but what about the ones who did nothing wrong but to make one of these corrupt cops mad... do they deserve that kind of treatment? if you say yes, then you should be drug out into the street and shot in the face for the entire community to watch. the only way that we can get control of this situation is to make a lethal example of those who humiliate our children like this. KILL THEM ALL! THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL WE AS A SOCIETY BE ABLE TO BREAK THIS CYCLE OF VIOLENCE ONCE AND FOR ALL!!! our children deserve no less. look into your hearts and tell me im wrong.
a better way to handle the situation is to teach the kids how to get on in a modern society. imprisonment is not the answer except in the most extreme cases. they are kids for christs sake. they are impulsive and reckless. this judge is in for 28 yrs (w time off for good behavior ) of anal raping and assaults. DO NOT PUT THIS TRASH INTO SOLITARY! IT IS MUCH BETTER THAN AN ABUSER LIKE THIS SHOULD GET. i personally am in favor of torture in cases like this. i will be the first in line to administer the punishment. if only it were legal...
Edit to add one more tidbit
The evidence established that Judge Conahan closed the Luzerne County Juvenile Detention Facility when he was chief judge and helped arrange the financing for the private facilities; that Ciavarella, as juvenile court judge, sent juveniles to those facilities; that both men obstructed efforts to question the county’s use of the facilities and their financial relationships with Mericle and Powell; and both judges used bank accounts, straw parties and real estate vacation property to hide and launder payments received from Mericle and Powell.edit on 12-8-2011 by DaddyBare because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
reply to post by DaddyBare
Question for you DaddyBare......Do you know where that money goes IF the people ever pay it back??
This question is something I always wondered, but just assumed it lined the pockets of someone.....Why wouldn't the taxpayers of PA get more of a tax return back for their tax money going toward this scam in the first place??