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Originally posted by theindependentjournal
...the warren commission can tell us that Oswald killed Kennedy with 3 shots and one of them being a Magic Bullet...
Originally posted by mwm1331
The so called "freedom fighters" in Iraq have killed more Iraqis than Americans.
The so called "freedom fighters" in Iraq have killed more Iraqis than the Americans have.
The so called "freedom Fighters" in Iraq are the reason that Iraqis cant find a good job, dont have reliable electric service, and are scared to leave thier homes at night.
The so called "freedom fighters" in Iraq are the ones bombing the oil pipelines which are Iraqs main source of money, thereby preventing the growth of Iraqs economy which would provide jobs for Iraqis.
The so called "freedom fighters" in Iraq are the ones bombing the power stations thereby causing the electrical shortage in Iraq.
So whos freedom are these so called "freedom fighters" really fighting for?
The U.S. made mistakes in Iraq, of that there is no doubt. But does anyone else find it interesting that Al Sadr's top advisors are all Iranians?
All homicides are not murder. I have killed, but I am not a murderer.
Originally posted by namehere
Originally posted by EastCoastKid, our soldiers are over there committing WAR CRIMES; and obviously, for the most part they don't even understand that. It's insane.
not really, read the geneva convention, what we are doing in najif is well within the law.
Originally posted by Relentless:
On Where you were in 1991:
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Originally posted by Kriz_4
[Lol, rules of warfare? Soldiers are paid to kill/murder people, I do not see why you do not understand that.
But, those "murdered" are casualties of war, so it is all fine and dandy *cough*. I really feel for the troops out there, they are in a no win situation.
All homicides are not murder. I have killed, but I am not a murderer. I think you need to speak from a basis of knowledge, instead of just ejaculating every thought that comes to mind.
You might start with a few history courses and some sociology thrown in for good measure. Without a historical perspective and a theoretical framework you sound like an idiot and, of course, we all know that can't be true.
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Any rational soldier, knowing the rules of engagement, knows the difference.
Originally posted by build319
The tolls of war can be damaging far beyond my own imagination and having to see such carnage everyday. Rational thought can be very corrupted in that type of enviornment.
Fierce Fighting in Iraq's Najaf, Sadr Defiant
By Michael Georgy
Thursday 19 August 2004
NAJAF, Iraq - Fierce fighting raged in the Iraqi city of Najaf on Thursday where a radical Shi'ite cleric spurned a final order from the prime minister to disarm his militia or face an attack on his sanctuary in a holy shrine.
U.S. aircraft and tanks pounded the area around Najaf's Imam Ali Mosque where Moqtada al-Sadr and his Mehdi militia have holed up. Thick smoke poured into the sky, dozens of explosions shook the old city and automatic rifle crackled through the air.
Confusion surrounds Najaf mosque
Friday, August 20, 2004 Posted: 11:00 AM EDT (1500 GMT)
NAJAF, Iraq (CNN) -- An Iraqi Interior Minister spokesman said Iraqi police had seized control of the Imam Ali Mosque in Najaf, but the U.S. military said the claim is false.
U.S. and Iraqi forces had surrounded the mosque -- one of the holiest shrines in Shiite Islam -- in an effort to pressure fighters, loyal to Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, who were holed up in the complex.
Iraqi Interior Ministry spokesman Sabah Kadhim announced Friday afternoon that Iraqi police entered the mosque "without a shot being fired" and found hundreds of armed men who were eager to surrender to them.
But U.S. officials at the Pentagon said there is no sense that al-Sadr's people have pulled out of the mosque, and that U.S. and Iraqi forces still surround it.
from the August 20, 2004 edition
A journey into the epicenter of the Sadr standoff
By Scott Baldauf
NAJAF, IRAQ – Technically speaking, what we were about to do was more than risky. It was foolish. But we told ourselves that it was a risk for a cause.
Thursday, several journalists and I began organizing a delegation to enter the Imam Ali Shrine in Najaf.
We had two goals: First, to seek what may be the final comments of the top leadership of Moqtada al-Sadr's Shiite militia, the Mahdi Army, who were taking shelter in the holy site. Second, we wanted to help two colleagues, freelance photographer Thorne Anserson and freelance reporter Philip Robertson, get out of the shrine after they had spent a harrowing three days at the epicenter of this armed showdown.
Between us and the shrine were two US military checkpoints, countless snipers, and hundreds of Mahdi Army fighters who had already committed themselves to die for their cause.
Sadr loyalists sing their defiance and denounce Allawi
By Adrian Blomfield at the Imam Ali shrine
A rocket launcher slung over his shoulder, a Mahdi army militiaman steps out on to the rubble-strewn main street of Najaf's commercial district and breaks into song.
Following his lead, other fighters loyal to the Shia cleric Moqtada al-Sadr spill out in twos and threes from doorways of shuttered shops, shaking rifles over their heads and stamping their feet as they join in the chorus.
"We are the soldiers of the Mahdi," they sing, apparently oblivious to the shells exploding nearby or the American tanks parked up a side road farther along the street.
Desecration as Tactic of Imperial Conquest
By DIANE CHRISTIAN
"The holy shrine will remain safe from all attacks that could possibly harm its sacredness."
Iraqi Interim Prime Minister Allawi, about the Najaf Mosque
Despoiling holy places is often a deliberate tactic of war. In ancient Sumer, Iraq 5000 years ago, regime change was often reported by the phrase 'the holy shrine was destroyed and the city overrun.' When Nebuchadnezzar captured Jerusalem in the sixth century B.C. he, like the later Roman conqueror Trajan, carried off Temple treasures. When the Greeks entered the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem a few centuries later, they slaughtered a hog in the Jewish temple's most sacred place, the Holy of Holies. In the French Revolution a naked whore was placed on the high altar of the Cathedral of Notre Dame. Osama Bin Laden deliberately brought down the twin towers which he identified as shrines to the American god-money.
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Osama Bin Laden deliberately brought down the twin towers which he identified as shrines to the American god-money.
Originally posted by marg6043
You said you have killed, but most of the people I know that have killed the enemy in war are still to this day very trouble about killing another human being even if is in a situation of kill or be killed like war, but you talk about like nothing.