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We need to eliminate social security, medicare and social programs

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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 08:53 PM
I think we should end government, if it cant "earn" money on its own, it shouldn't be.
just the fact that the gooberment threatens us with the IRS should be the motivational factor to cancel its subscription

posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 08:52 AM
reply to post by miniatus

Don't worry, the government will still collect Social Security and Medicare from your Payroll, yet you'll never see it when you retire.

You'll be asking them "I thought you scrapped Social Security, why is it listed on my W-2 tax form?"

The government will say "Where does it say that?"

You say "Right here! Federal Withholding Social Security."

They'll say "Oh, that is just a typo."

posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 09:01 AM
reply to post by sgreco

The middle class pay more taxes than the rich or poor, they also happen to own more businesses.

Basic medical care should be free for all.

All major corporations should give up 10% of their profit spread out to their employees of 10+ years service (on top of wages).

Any corporation manufacturering offshore should not receive any tax breaks or bail outs.

Cap on minimum wage.

Welfare only to those with permanent disabilities and their carers, and cut off to those with temporary illnesses after 6-12 months. No dole, period.
edit on 12-8-2011 by bluemirage5 because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 09:17 AM
I agree, it is a Joke.

If there are those that feel we need to cut the legs out from all forms of support, and that everyone should stand on their own two feet, then that includes the military as well.

The military is a used by the guys at the top as a means of support and welfare to control other countries for their business and financial dealings, of which they are the major beneficiary, and is not used for protecting our borders.

They don't need no stinking Nanny State looking after them, let these guys put on their bootstraps and figure out ways to get things done on their own without a sugar daddy around the world.

My tax dollars should not be funding welfare for these big corps and financial banks to go around raping the world in many countries at the other 99% expense.

Originally posted by sgreco
So we can keep throwing good money after bad on nonsense like this:


I'm sick to death of hearing about how we're in such a crisis that we must eat the poor and middle class BUT we can still afford to do things like this...

and this


We're continually asked by the GOP to make the "tough decisions" and sacrifices. Let's see some from the bloated defense budget.

posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:28 AM
reply to post by sgreco

I do have to agree with you, things don't seem to make much sense to me as far as cutting spending goes, like why don't they cut a larger portion of defense? The GOP seems to blame Obama for every war since the dawn of time, so naturally, one would think they would be happy to cut defense spending.

Another thing I wonder, why don't any of these guys declare that they want a pay cut? Do we really need to pay our politicians as much as we do?

posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:52 AM
The original Americans, respected the elderly.

That is the way of America. We take care of the old.

If some DC London DC Corporation wants to float its government over this land, and say that we should have pages and pages of administrative BS between us and the elderly, then that is a voided government, that has no standing.

If some gathering of empowered rich people want to establish trans-oceanic claims and then maintain these for the centuries-long final goal, of disempowering the elderly, then they are fraudulent, and enemies of humanity.

If you cannot summon, the desire, within you, to care for the old, and to value them, then you are not an American.

Now, as to the problem itself, it is simply one of leeches. I ask you: Why did Jesus get ONLY so angry at the moneychangers? Because they are leeches. The marketmakers, those who make markets, are an impediment, to caring for the tribe. Said another way, there is a lot of dough to be made, in sapping the energy of humans through coins and paper instruments. And this sapping of energy, affects (obviously) the old foremost, since they have worked their whole lives, to raise us up. So having them be robbed and harmed and ideologically disenfranchised, is abhorrent to any true American, according to my beliefs, and to the beliefs of those who follow chununpa, the peace pipe.

Why would anyone have to explain the value of the old? And anyway, what do they want? Just some friends and some food and shelter and to feel valued. And yet I find every church in my country to be closed after midnight (except to Satanic worshipers one assumes) and offering no shelter, and no future hope, to the elderly.

So you see, we are held with this absurd notion, that Federal bureaucracy in the whole, is required, to care for the old. No, it's not. The original Americans knew how to make sure their grannies and grampas were able to flee and remain safe. It is this "New Way" of the 20th century, the bloodiest of all centuries by far, that has "educated" us to devalue the older ones.

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