Rick Perry's Prayer Event - I feel like I'm watching a Jon Stewart Montage? This is NBC.

...I really do. How is this news?

Separation of Church and state is important but usually it doesn't matter. This time I'm just confused. People think like this?

Edit: Apparently these people think they are prophets. lol?

I saw that on her show. Isn't that frightening, that people with influence really think that way.....

Religion and politics shouldn't mix. There's already a crazy amount of religion in the US politics, I hope this guy doesn't become president.....

Maybe I'll just pray that he doesn't

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I think this quote is appropriate...

Fascism will come to America wrapped in the flag and waving a cross....S. Lewis

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OK, coming from a Texan..... I can't believe Perry just threw his hat into the race.....

The guy has been awful for Texas... Plus, need I remind you all what happened the last time we elected a governor from Texas, President?

Yeah,his pray the debt away idea..... silly....but this is the bible belt.... a lot of idiots eat that stuff up.

And no, those people do not think they are prophets.They are religious people with good intentions.....

But really.... No one vote for that clown....He has been bad for Texas and he will be bad for the country.

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This is something far more sinister than fascism.

Irrelevant of calling "sleeping with the Sun Goddess" a demon, I actually don't mind that particular preacher, whether or not I agree with him.

Context for my reaction:

1 Corinthians 8, 9, 10: Specifically, 10:19-20

19 What do I mean then? That a thing sacrificed to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20 No, but I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers in demons.

In chapter 8, there is more talk of the thing being sacrificed to as being nothing.

In this, eating meat sacrificed to an idol has no hold on a Christian because there literally is nothing in/to it. Yet, at the same time those who compulsively sacrifice this meat you are eating/not eating are sacrificing to Demons due to the power they place in it. Considering that they could differentiate between an epileptic seizure and what looked to be real demon possession, at that time, I'm sure they'd doubt most things back then as demon controlled.

Basically, it's the same as saying: "To claim that you're sleeping with the Sun Goddess does nothing because nothing is there, yet if there is something capable of afflicting your country due to your belief, then you've just found your demon, buddy!" I've got no problem calling your country's financial reaction to your insanity a demon. Technically, we've got the same problem with our present Potus. It isn't for no reason that we call our inner torments inner demons. Doubts kill economies.

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And no, those people do not think they are prophets.They are religious people with good intentions.....

Oh really? Because it would seem some of the things they say indicate this.

I wonder how many times Gov. Perry has attended ceremonies at the Bohemian Grove. .

It's scarey to think that the Republican party believes that it needs these religious nuts. I don't think that kind of thinking is going to attract the average voter, and certainly not many under the age of 50.

So many crazy ideas here. They (Republicans) "preach" common sense, but I have yet to see any coming from Rick Perry.

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In my experience, and I have almost forty years worth, those who cry "Lord! Lord!" would not know Him if he came to them (even in church) and tried to introduce himself. In fact, if He entered a church in robes and sporting long hair, they'd probably call the cops to come pick up the drunk hippie.

I know of what I speak having been raised in a pentecostal faith. Many speak out both sides of their mouths and stand for the exact opposite of what Christ stood for. In fact, many would call his ideas "leftist socialism".

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I know of what I speak having been raised in a pentecostal faith.

You too eh? I remember when I was a kid, we went to a pentecostal church where someone undoubtedly babbled in tongues without fail every sermon.

Speaking of Christians violating what Christ said what's the deal with this prayer rally? Didn't Christ specifically say to pray in secret? Didn't he warn against standing out in public like the hypocrites do? Yeah methinks a great many Christians should re-read their Bibles, if it doesn't make them more Christ-like it should at least reduce down the number of Christians.

Should anyone be fooled by the distraction scheme here?

Using people's belief in god to hide your political incompetency.... how classy.

Sadly, Americans would be eager to elect a clown such as this...

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
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OK, coming from a Texan..... I can't believe Perry just threw his hat into the race.....

The guy has been awful for Texas... Plus, need I remind you all what happened the last time we elected a governor from Texas, President?

Yeah,his pray the debt away idea..... silly....but this is the bible belt.... a lot of idiots eat that stuff up.

And no, those people do not think they are prophets.They are religious people with good intentions.....

But really.... No one vote for that clown....He has been bad for Texas and he will be bad for the country.

Maybe this has something to do with it?

TX Gov. Rick Perry Attends Bilderberg in Istanbul, 2007
www.youtube.com...

These people are downright dangerous.

The Japanese emperor was engaging in sexual intercourse with the Sun god??
Katrina and natural disasters occur because God is mad at sinful places??

These people need a thorazine drip. Giving them any sort of governmental influence would be akin to throwing the evolutionary clock about 1000 years in reverse. I do not understand how a grown adult could possibly think this way. Do they not understand the physical world? Did no one teach them? Do they even care, or do they just need Jesus to come back so he can slay the Mooslims?

Laugh it up, folks...

BUT

This guy is JUST CRAZY ENOUGH to get elected.

He's got the televangelist looks. He's got that good ol' "W"-style hometown cluelessness.

But worst of all...

He has an army of Christian Nationalists who ABSOLUTELY WILL VOTE ON ELECTION DAY.

This guys a complete nut job! Wtf were you Texans thinking voting this guy in as governor? Makes me sick the tactics these idiot politicians use to dupe the idiot masses into voting for them. I can only imagine the conversation in a shack way back in the woods down south somewhere, " Martha this feller's a good ole God fearing christian, he's got my vote"
I really think this idiot would get a lot of votes just because he plays the religion card. Hell that's how Bush got his second term. DON'T VOTE WITH YOUR BIBLE! Vote for who will make a difference, vote for who will bring the troops home, vote for who will lower the deficit not increase it, vote for someone who will restore your country to the proud republic it used to be! Vote for Ron Paul!






I'm Ron Paul and I approve this message

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You're ron paul?

Sup Ron. You're awesome. Keep up the great work bro.

I just recently picked this dude up on my radar and I do not like him one bit. Even more so there is already major buzz Just today about him and the way they were talking about him On MSNBC today was very eerie. "Oh wouldn't it be great if he could really come out swinging on Saturday when he officially announces he candidacy", and "He's not experienced as some of the other possibles but he has the look and strong religious views...........

This all seems to sound vaguely familiar. Idk I may be jumping the gun severely but I thinks the scripts already been written and we are being introduced to our next president.

God if you really exist, please show mercy on all of us and end this ........ soon.

Trowa

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studylight.org...:6&t=nas&st=1&new=1&sr=1&sc=1&l=en

5 "When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. 6 "But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. 7 "And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words. 8 "So do not be like them; for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him.9 "Pray, then, in this way: `Our Father who is in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. 10 `Your kingdom come. Your will be done, On earth as it is in heaven. 11 `Give us this day our daily bread. 12 `And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13 `And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. [For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.]' 14 "For if you forgive others for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 "But if you do not forgive others, then your Father will not forgive your transgressions.

To merely say that public prayer is wrong due to this traditional teaching is out of context, and not even exactly what we're told not to do.

1. It doesn't say: don't pray in public, but it says, Don't pray like a hypocriyte.
2. The why: they pray in public to show off.
3. Don't be repititious because it's meaningless.
4. Go pray in private.
5. Now watch my public prayer for how. (Not the only public prayer as deomonstration in the Bible, by the way.)
6. More explanation on why.

If the strict rule is to pray only in a closet, then Christ's own prayer demonstration was against his ruling. It's never been that public prayer is the problem, but that people using public prayer to show off is the problem. Rather than pray like the hypocrite, go in your room and talk to God alone.

Now, do I suspect that the prayer meeting was anything less/more than a hypocritical publicity stunt? Not really, that end behavior is still usually in the wrong. But just the act of getting a giant room full of people together to pray in and of itself is not even remotely a sin by the text.

Originally posted by spinalremain
The Japanese emperor was engaging in sexual intercourse with the Sun god??

I got the impression that the man was saying that the Emperor out and out claimed ot be sleeping with the Sun Goddess, not actually accusing him of actually doing so. Something to do with:
www.highbeam.com...

Katrina and natural disasters occur because God is mad at sinful places??

Katrina fell right on the weekend of the Decandence festival. Since it was during the hurricane season, it was bound to happen. Gustav fell the same weekend, a year or two later. Due to what Katrina did to scare that city, the Decadence festival was cancelled by the mayor, if I remember correctly. The gays were told to get out of town before all hell broke loose, incase Katrina was happening again. As I'm quite sure more will fall the same way. I don't necesscerily espouse that the storms happend because Gays wanted to embarrass the public with their drunken nudity (hey, the heteros do it during Mardi Gras, so it's a culture thing, not a sexual-preference related deviancy), but whoever put it in the comittee's head to put that festival in the heaviest part of the storm season had their head up their postierior.

These people need a thorazine drip. Giving them any sort of governmental influence would be akin to throwing the evolutionary clock about 1000 years in reverse. I do not understand how a grown adult could possibly think this way. Do they not understand the physical world? Did no one teach them? Do they even care, or do they just need Jesus to come back so he can slay the Mooslims?

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Considering that most countries fall after too much moral decline happens, (or any crazy belif shift, for that matter...and we had one in the 60s) they're not all that crazy. Just start looking into how practices canged, and when their power was lost, for each society.

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And the other half would elect anyone who was willing to point this out while hiding their own incopetence, so it goes both ways. As long as you cater superficially to what one group or the other wants, you don't have to produce goods. The only people this does not fool is those who only are worried about the end result...and even they can be foold for a while.