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Fox News Viewers Threaten Atheists Over 9/11 Cross Lawsuit

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posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:03 AM
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Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by Kitilani
 


don't try to pull that bs on me.

your kind, lol! ya, i said it, is costing taxpayers more money with this lawsuit than what it will cost for the cross to be moved.

you ok wit dat, i guess.

it was an attack on the whole of the USA and not some accident, as i said before.

but then you ignore that or don't take your own advice about reading the thread!

the gov should pay for it and make sure everyone is basically happy with the end result.

the atheist symbol would remind me of a canadian epcot center opposed to disneyland.

but that's not my concern what "you people" come up with.

private money would move that cross there anyway. bet the rent on it.

too bad you guys will have to "put out" for yours.

probably someone will rape you on the commission to design and build, plus take about 5yrs to complete.

plant a tree or trees.

"be the ball" ooooooommmmmmmmm!



why do you guys want a cross?

IT is a strange thing to erect and worship a death implement of somebody you admire so much.


WTF is it with crosses?




posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:05 AM
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Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by Janky Red
 


turn the other cheek so to speak, how deliciously biblical.



get your own country, wait.. they've all been destroyed! at least the atheists in charge were.

sorry bout that chief!






I got my own country

I especially love keeping my head up, eyes open when people pray





try that in a mosque.

really, try it.


anyway, where ever you live, the common man and the stupid politico's follow something higher than themselves which atheists tend to discount and therefore think they are the cats bananas and superior to there fellow man.



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posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:05 AM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by DrChuck
Atheism requires faith to believe that there is no God.


No it doesn't.

I have my own beliefs. My beliefs lack belief in a deity.

It does not require faith for me to lack belief in a deity.



I also have my own beliefs. My beliefs lack belief in non-theism.

It does require faith for me to lack belief in non-theism.

Either way both you and I have beliefs. If one of our beliefs were proven, it would be fact. But neither are. Both are unproven, hence both beliefs are founded on faith.
edit on 22-8-2011 by DrChuck because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:08 AM
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reply to post by Kitilani
 


Then define atheism.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by Kitilani
 


don't try to pull that bs on me.

your kind, lol! ya, i said it, is costing taxpayers more money with this lawsuit than what it will cost for the cross to be moved.


Which is why I support neither action. So tell me again what my kind is.


you ok wit dat, i guess.


So not only did not read the OP or the thread, you are not even reading my posts that you reply to? Pretty clear I am not ok with that.


it was an attack on the whole of the USA and not some accident, as i said before.


Who said it was an accident? Who is saying it was just an attack on certain people? There would be no lawsuit if the Christians were not actively trying to EXCLUDE the Atheists so who is arguing that it was an attack on the WHOLE?
Not me.


but then you ignore that or don't take your own advice about reading the thread!




Who says I did not read it? That was in response to someone else. What the f*** are you talking about?


the gov should pay for it and make sure everyone is basically happy with the end result.


Tell me why I should pay for it at all.


the atheist symbol would remind me of a canadian epcot center opposed to disneyland.

but that's not my concern what "you people" come up with.


You are so ignorant it is not even funny. You have no clue what you are responding to at all.


private money would move that cross there anyway. bet the rent on it.


Private money can do whatever it wants as far as I am concerned. I am still waiting for one good reason I should be paying for anything to do with this cross. Why do you have no smart-ass snarky response for that yet?


too bad you guys will have to "put out" for yours.


Like I said, let me know when you read the thread.


probably someone will rape you on the commission to design and build, plus take about 5yrs to complete.

plant a tree or trees.

"be the ball" ooooooommmmmmmmm!



I want whatever you are taking.
Seriously stop trolling and refrain from responding to me until you actually read my posts and get at least one thing straight.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by fooks
anyway, where ever you live, the common man and the stupid politico's follow something higher than themselves which atheists tend to discount and therefore think they are the cats bananas and superior to there fellow man.



You are evidence of the exact opposite. Atheists I know are flawed human beings while people like you think that somehow having an imaginary friend makes you better than them. You know I am right. You know you think you are better than atheists.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by fooks

Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by Janky Red
 


turn the other cheek so to speak, how deliciously biblical.



get your own country, wait.. they've all been destroyed! at least the atheists in charge were.

sorry bout that chief!






I got my own country

I especially love keeping my head up, eyes open when people pray





try that in a mosque.

really, try it.


anyway, where ever you live, the common man and the stupid politico's follow something higher than themselves which atheists tend to discount and therefore think they are the cats bananas and superior to there fellow man.


I did, I was in Turkey 40 days ago, they could give half a fook what I was doing, they were busy nurturing
their PERSONAL relationship with god.


I have no problem with people being religious, no problem at all.

I do have a problem with people who sell religion, who expect me to be subservient to their ideas.

My ideas cannot and will not effect anyones relationship with god, ever. Nothing I do will infringe on
somebodies ability to enter into their special place after death.

Since I have the least amount of time existing, I expect the same respect in return.
edit on 22-8-2011 by Janky Red because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:11 AM
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represents lots of stuff, dude.

pain and suffering, everlasting life, respect for the dead, you know, christians took that for their own like the word certain races can't say but certain others can.

it's a symbol of faith.

don't like faith or can't see it when it hits you in the face?

walk away.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:13 AM
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Originally posted by DrChuck
Atheism requires faith to believe that there is no God. I don't know what you don't understand about that statement.
Atheism rejects the idea of a God concept. The God concept was conceived and presented to us, and we rejected it. It's like an idea being denied funding. We reject that idea. Try again if you get a new idea. I hope that helps you understand.
edit on 22-8-2011 by gentledissident because: punctuation



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by DrChuck
reply to post by Kitilani
 


Then define atheism.


Why is it that whenever I ask valid questions about this argument I only get questions in return?
You need a dictionary or are you hoping to pit your personal definition against mine?



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by DrChuck
And yes, atheists are a demographic group in a population...if you were to assess religious statistics in a population what would you include? Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, ATHEISTS, etc.


If a Christian church is built - - Christians will congregate to that area.
If a Mosque is built - - Muslims will congregate to that area.
If a Synagogue is built - - Jews will congregate to that area.

What exactly is your point in regards to the demographic of Atheists?



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:17 AM
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Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by Janky Red
 


represents lots of stuff, dude.

pain and suffering, everlasting life, respect for the dead, you know, christians took that for their own like the word certain races can't say but certain others can.

it's a symbol of faith.

don't like faith or can't see it when it hits you in the face?

walk away.



I still think it is a strange, sadistic symbol to worship.

Whatever, there are tons of them about... I don't see why they should become a national symbol, relationships with god are completely singular as far as I can tell. You cannot score me a place in heaven can you???
edit on 22-8-2011 by Janky Red because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:17 AM
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Originally posted by DrChuck

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by DrChuck
Atheism requires faith to believe that there is no God.


No it doesn't.

I have my own beliefs. My beliefs lack belief in a deity.

It does not require faith for me to lack belief in a deity.



I also have my own beliefs. My beliefs lack belief in non-theism.

It does require faith for me to lack belief in non-theism.

Either way both you and I have beliefs. If one of our beliefs were proven, it would be fact. But neither are. Both are unproven, hence both beliefs are founded on faith.


My belief is everything is energy.

It does not require faith - - it requires science.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:20 AM
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reply to post by Annee
 


hell, that's easy, "if you build it, they will come"


try again.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by Janky Red
I still think it is a strange, sadistic symbol to worship.



Mormons don't use the cross. And yes - they are Christian.

They believe in a living Christ. Why use a symbol that represents his death.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by DrChuck
And yes, atheists are a demographic group in a population...if you were to assess religious statistics in a population what would you include? Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, ATHEISTS, etc.


If a Christian church is built - - Christians will congregate to that area.
If a Mosque is built - - Muslims will congregate to that area.
If a Synagogue is built - - Jews will congregate to that area.

What exactly is your point in regards to the demographic of Atheists?


Demographics does not mean a building or a institution where people congregate, where did you get that? Demographics is the statistical study of populations. Such as....What percent of the population make more than a million a year, or what percent of the population own cars, or what percent of the population claim atheism.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by Annee
 


hell, that's easy, "if you build it, they will come"


try again.


What a stupid remark.

try again.
(I can do laughy things too)



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:21 AM
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OK someone just tell me why these particular Christians are being so petty?
What are the facts?
Atheists simply asked to be included.
Christians said no, sue us!
Christians took the facebook to spew hate and violence.
Christians are blaming the Atheists who just want to be included for the actions taken by the Christians.

So why can't they just include the atheists and be done with it?
Why do they have to say such horribly unChristian things all over facebook in support of their religion?



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:24 AM
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reply to post by Annee
 


It is a belief. They believe there is no god of any sort with no evidence to support it. That's a leap of faith.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:25 AM
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reply to post by Kitilani
 


i don't want what you are taking.

i think it is strychnine.

jumbled logic, the compartmentalizing of "words", that whole "i didn't say that" thing and "i am right" attitude and "you are ignorant" singular focus on bizarre ideas and a very healthy dose of righteousness.

lol!

head wound.



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