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'God can work miracles': Boy survives 25 minutes under water

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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:35 AM
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The 12-year-old spent at least 25 minutes submerged underwater on Friday before rescuers pulled him out. He was not conscious and not breathing. Seeing their son's limp and lifeless body in the rescuer's arms, the boy's parents were prepared for the worst. But after receiving CPR, Dale regained a faint heartbeat. Still, his parents feared he was brain-dead.


He responded normally to stimuli! 12 year old Dale must undergo lengthy physical therapy, but it's looking like he will be just fine. Coincidence? I don't think so. It sounds to me like he's got a hedge of thorns. This boy still has a destiny to fulfill, and nothing will stop him until he has done so.



"That was when we knew, hey, maybe there is a miracle that's happening here," Chad said. "We understand hopelessness, but we also understand faith. God can work miracles." When the Spanaway boy was pulled from the ocean, nearly everyone feared the worst. Friends from his church group dropped to their knees and prayed.


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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:44 AM
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Sorry, I missed the part where a god was involved. Please clarify.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:48 AM
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we can't explain it to you...
you have it or not....this world is spiritual



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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lol can't be god


why step in and interveine here


when there is millions of somolian kids dying as we speak ?


can't pick and choose god

you either intervine or you don't!


just ask the amputee where god is




this was just luck isolated incident and the boy was young so his body parts could with stand more damage and be repaired



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:55 AM
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I just hope he's able to retell his experiance in the afterlife oneday. That should be intersting to hear. He's one lucky little boy.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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God wasn't involved, under stress the human body can perform amazing feats.....


not to be a bible basher, but come on folks it's 2011.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 12:00 PM
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Hundreds of years ago, people who didnt understand things thought they must have been supernatural.

Looks like we havent come too far since then.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 12:00 PM
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What was the temperature of the water?

I have read of a little girl remaining submerged for about 2 hours in frigid waters, and recovering with no neurological damage. Searching for it, I cannot find it; I think I read it in the guiness book of world records or something, long ago.

Regardless, body temperature is key in these situations. Its only a miracle if it cannot be explained rationally, and having a low body temp would rationally explain this situation.
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
reply to post by RightInTwo
 


What was the temperature of the water?

I have read of a little girl remaining submerged for about 2 hours in frigid waters, and recovering with no neurological damage. Searching for it, I cannot find it; I think I read it in the guiness book of world records or something, long ago.

Regardless, body temperature is key in these situations. Its only a miracle if it cannot be explained rationally, and having a low body temp would rationally explain this situation.
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Just looking at the source article; the rescuers have wet suits on and head pieces that retain heat, the water in question was the pacific ocean, in Long Beach Washington state, and it looks like the boy is not wearing a wet suit.

That water is probably 55 degrees. That will sap away your body heat very quickly.

"god" didnt do anything here, like usual. The cold preserved his body. The rescuers are the ones who should be praised here. THEY pulled him out of the waters, and saved his life.
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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I advocate no change of belief here; but I find it rather presumptuous to state unequivocally whether faith (i.e. God) had anything to do with it.

Seems like another opportunity being seized to reject God, as the one being seized to embrace God.

It must be comforting to hold that the universe lacks any aspect of depth beyond what we can rationalize; just as it must be comforting to think of some divine personality who tends to such things as this.

Both positions seem somehow egocentrically myopic to me.

In my humble opinion, apparently it takes as much faith to not believe in a God as is does to believe.

It is most clearly a choice.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by seedofchucky
lol can't be god


why step in and interveine here


when there is millions of somolian kids dying as we speak ?


I believe we are talking about the white, middle to upper class, American "god" here. He caters to his own, I guess



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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This has nothing to do with God or miracles or any other fairy tales. It is a result of years of medical research and technological advancements in the medical field.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by imawlinn
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This has nothing to do with God or miracles or any other fairy tales. It is a result of years of medical research and technological advancements in the medical field.


You can't hold your breath more than 5 minutes and that is a lot, if you are a champion maybe you can beat that.


www.telegraph.co.uk...
Swiss freediver breaks world record for holding breath underwater
Peter Colat, a Swiss freediver, has held his breath underwater for 19 minutes and 21 seconds, smashing the world record.


A child would go for 2 minutes tops under water.

After your 5 minutes under water you die there. This is not about the modern medical field. Life support can help you only to a point.

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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 04:57 PM
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I live in the area where this happened....The time spent underwater has dramatically increased in the last several days...It started out at maybe 10 minutes and now I see it's worked it's way up to 25 minutes...Nice game of "Telephone" anyone?



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:31 AM
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It's good to see that someone is sensitive to this. Although I'm sure the 10 minutes felt like an eternity to those who were fearing for his life.

By any chance do you have access to any of the original stories where they reported the time differently? It would make an excellent contribution.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:42 AM
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Even if i was to believe in that god fairy tale.
Which god do you mean?????
As there are hundreds of gods that are worshipped, have been worshipped and will be worshipped on this planet
Again, which god do you mean? And how did this god play its part in this tale??.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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Not god at all, at least not directly. Google "mammalian diving reflex". Here, I'll even give you a start:

familydoctormag.com...



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 12:00 PM
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"God." Perhaps, perhaps not.

Something strange was definitely at work here. Whether it is something odd anatomically about this young man or magic rainbow loving dolphins giving him the kiss of life until the useless land dwellers came to help is up to whatever speculative answer floats your boat but the fact remains, he should be dead.

Presuming the water is below 70F then the diving reflex will have engaged but even that cannot explain such a prolonged period submerged. This young man should be dead and he isn't, go figure.

Drowning
Mammalian Diving Reflex

Must say the picture sent a shiver down my spine though. My son is the same age and I just could not imagine seeing him like that.

Wishing you a speedy recovery young Dale.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 12:06 PM
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How can there be so many people on here who don't believe god plays a part in everything?

Is it really that hard to accept for you all??

I will be a very lonely soul in heaven....GEESH



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 12:13 PM
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I understand what you mean.

I'm equally annoyed at people who believe NOTHING is spiritual as much as those who believe EVERYTHING is spiritual. Here's a thought. You're both right. SOME things are likely to have some sort of intervention and most things do not, otherwise what would be the point?

I can believe in God or that the earth is flat all I want, it won't make it any more or less true. I could also ask you if you love your mother and then ask to prove it scientifically, again won't make it any more or less true.



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