Goodbye internet privacy in canada.

Originally posted by soficrow
reply to post by Fractured.Facade

 

You keep ignoring my main point:

There's no real reason to outlaw Internet anonymity except for population control.

Alright already, I wasn't aware that the governments were seeking the ability to monitor and control hundreds of millions of people at any given time.. Interesting, but completely impossible, though I respect your positions on all of this.

Good luck with that, and maintaining control over your lives on the internet, because we all now know that everyone lives exclusively on the internet now, and because of that they can now be controlled. Amazing powers that is, even God himself has to be envious of it.

Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
reply to post by soficrow

 

If you have nothing to hide, why would that be a problem?

Are you paid to be this stupid?!

When the noose has slowly been tightening around citizens rights over the years, trivialities of life have become against law or taxable... I've always been taught to speak my mind so I've been screwed from the very begining.

Father you seeking tha PO-lice

reply to post by Fractured.Facade


Anonymity allows us to protect ourselves and our children fro identity theft and other 'intrusions.'

Given that the government can already track anyone it wants to find - what on earth is accomplished by making Internet anonymity illegal? Except population control?

Originally posted by Nastradamus

Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
reply to post by soficrow

 

If you have nothing to hide, why would that be a problem?

Are you paid to be this stupid?!

Nope, I do it for free.

Do you have a better offer?

Originally posted by soficrow
reply to post by Fractured.Facade

 

Anonymity allows us to protect ourselves and our children fro identity theft and other 'intrusions.'

Given that the government can already track anyone it wants to find - what on earth is accomplished by making Internet anonymity illegal? Except population control?

I agree with this. They already track our credit cards, our drivers licenses, our passports. Who even knows what else they're tracking us with (phones). So making Anonymity illegal does put our children at risk, because when a child is online, you cannot determine age. But if you do determine age, then predators will be all over that.

Not to mention, it wont change # all. Those who need to hide, know how to hide.

Originally posted by soficrow
reply to post by Fractured.Facade

 

Anonymity allows us to protect ourselves and our children fro identity theft and other 'intrusions.'

Anonymity gives you and especially parents a dangerous FALSE sense of security, You're not anonymous, nor your children now, at least the vast majority of internet users aren't.. don't be fooled.

The predators and criminals on the other hand, are quite secure and searching for any and every opportunity to get to you, and your children.

Sorry, in this ever changing cyber-world you can't have total freedom, anonymity and security at the same time... except in a fantasy world where everything is perfect and evil doesn't exist.

thanks government, time for the uk riots to spread to canada as well. These jerks just won't listen to the people they pretend to represent.

I remember a little while ago I tried to watch an R rated trailer so it wanted me to put my name and age in to verify that i was old enough.

So like any normal person, I put a random name and my age just because I don't feel that I have to spell out my personal identity on every page that I visit.

Apparently though, that didn't work because what they were doing for that particular video was running the name and age that you entered against the database of drivers licenses

I still watched the video, but that was def creepy, I don't plan on submitting to that the next time...

It may already bee too late. There are companies like the creepy Social Intelligence that are hired by potential employers to screen applicants.

Apparently they can see everything you've posted for the last seven years and report back to the employers.

It screens for a handful of things that could cause legal problems for your potential employer: aggressive or violent acts or assertions, unlawful activity, discriminatory activity (for example, making racist statements), and sexually explicit activity. The company searches through websites such as Facebook, Twitter, Flickr, YouTube, LinkedIn, and individual blogs to obtain this information. A search of what you’ve said or posted to social media websites and the Internet in general may become a standard part of background checks when you apply for a job.

So if you make racist remarks, cuss, put up pictures of centerfolds, you can kiss your potential job goodbye.

By the way, in the US:

The Federal Trade Commission gave its approval to a background check company that screens job applicants based on their Internet photos and postings

Link

I also saw this story on the BBC website but I'm not sure if they are already using it in the UK.

We're nearing North Korea levels of censorship...

reply to post by Nicolas Flamel


Ha! They can try all they want but when there's a will, there's a way... double entendre don't even ask me how LOL

They dun fked with God himself...

I wonder how fast CSIS are acting... I literally got a phonecall 2 minutes after my initial post in this thread from this random company that has been calling me at random times of the day/night every couple of weeks just randomly and sporadically.

Paranoid much?... maybe. But then again, after a while there's just too many "coincidences"

reply to post by Nastradamus


That's too funny

If I start getting unsolicited calls, I'll let you know.

reply to post by Nicolas Flamel


I'm being dead serious though. They always ask for either Glen or Lennard... idk why but I've flipped out at them before for calling me at 1:45am in the morning before... I've flipped out at them when they call me at 11 at night. I've asked them politely to stop calling me when they've called at 8:00am-ish, or at any other time because this has been going on for a long while now... it's sporadic and random... every couple of weeks I'll get a call. And it's always this same caller ID...

bustin' at me, b-b-b-bustin' at me
but I'm bullet proof btch
you can't get nothin' past me

edit -

it'd be easy to pass it off as just paranoia... but I guess you literally have to experience the context of the situations/moments that these calls have happened. Not all of them happen "right on cue" per se... but there's been mounting occassions where these calls have happened at "ironic" times that leaves one to ponder at the very least what's the angle here?

reply to post by Invariance


Yes but both bills C-51 existed prior to the May Election, and therefore have been tabled and the bill system is reset. On Parl's list of bills before the house, there is no C-51, which would have come from the department of Justice. see: www.parl.gc.ca...

I think any concern is outdated, plus this conservative government does not want to spend money on civil servants. Why would they spend money to introduce more work for the public service? And who would be the governing authority? RCMP? FINTRAC? CSIS? Is the internet a provincial authroty or federal? There are too many unknowns for this to be even plausable of going through. The cost would exorbinant for our justice system, and the amount of guidline, interpritations and the resistance from the major telecom providers would be too much politcal preassure. Canadians need not fear the public servants, the truth they don't care about the individual Canadian. Who would benefit from this information anyway? Justice Canada must have sublitted a cost-beneit analysis to Treasury Board prior to the posting on Canada Gazette PART1 and 2. This amendment would need more research before such leaps as spying on Canadians.

Frankly governments don't care about a person, they care about people. So what one person does, provided there is no harm being inflicted on another, is not Canada's concern.

reply to post by Fractured.Facade

Originally posted by Fractured.Facade

Originally posted by soficrow
reply to post by Fractured.Facade

 

Anonymity allows us to protect ourselves and our children fro identity theft and other 'intrusions.'

Anonymity gives you and especially parents a dangerous FALSE sense of security, You're not anonymous, nor your children now, at least the vast majority of internet users aren't.. don't be fooled.

I don't have a false sense of security - I know I'm tracked, and most of it's corporate. My screen name is an effective screen between me and all the psychos out there. Which is not to say I haven't PO'd the occasional dysfunctional hacker and lost a hard drive or 2. But things could be wayyy worse.

The predators and criminals on the other hand, are quite secure and searching for any and every opportunity to get to you, and your children.

Uh huh. And the ones I worry about most are corporate. The others I can manage.

Sorry, in this ever changing cyber-world you can't have total freedom, anonymity and security at the same time...

I'll take my freedom.

Keep your security.

I must say I am against this bill. However,freedom of speech does not mean anonymity.If you want to comment on something at least have the cajones to put your name on it.

Originally posted by Bacontep
reply to post by Invariance

 

Yes but both bills C-51 existed prior to the May Election, and therefore have been tabled and the bill system is reset. On Parl's list of bills before the house, there is no C-51, which would have come from the department of Justice. see: www.parl.gc.ca...

I think any concern is outdated, plus this conservative government does not want to spend money on civil servants. Why would they spend money to introduce more work for the public service? And who would be the governing authority? RCMP? FINTRAC? CSIS? Is the internet a provincial authroty or federal? There are too many unknowns for this to be even plausable of going through. The cost would exorbinant for our justice system, and the amount of guidline, interpritations and the resistance from the major telecom providers would be too much politcal preassure. Canadians need not fear the public servants, the truth they don't care about the individual Canadian. Who would benefit from this information anyway? Justice Canada must have sublitted a cost-beneit analysis to Treasury Board prior to the posting on Canada Gazette PART1 and 2. This amendment would need more research before such leaps as spying on Canadians.

Frankly governments don't care about a person, they care about people. So what one person does, provided there is no harm being inflicted on another, is not Canada's concern.

I have been keeping track of the bill on the parl website. It is still in the beginning stages. But i do believe harper was going to pass this and the omnibus crime bill and others within his first 100 days in office. Still time left. Its spinning its wheels in office. Hopefully it doesnt take off. Im monitoring the situation though.

stopspying.ca

Originally posted by DAMYANKEEDEM
I must say I am against this bill. However,freedom of speech does not mean anonymity.If you want to comment on something at least have the cajones to put your name on it.

They go hand in hand. I will not be able to say "I hate the government for this reason ", because if i do so not anonymously, then i could be subject to jail time and a fine.

So yes, we need to be able to comment Anonymously on the internet. I do not want to be arrested for my opinion on anything. Its my opinion.

Link

The Conservatives plan on introducing an omnibus crime bill when the House resumes that wraps all of their previous legislation into one.

The bill is promoted as allowing police to track and prosecute the perverts passing around child pornography and allows them to update their monitoring techniques to deal with the ever-changing computerized world we live in.

Sounds fine. What could be wrong with that?

In fact, there’s nothing wrong with that part, but there is plenty to worry about in what they propose to do regarding hate crimes.

The bill plans to make it a crime to link to any website that promotes hatred.

Here’s what the Library of Parliament says about the bill on its website: “Clause 5 of the bill provides that the offences of public incitement of hatred and wilful promotion of hatred may be committed by any means of communication and include making hate material available, by creating a hyperlink that directs web surfers to a website where hate material is posted, for example.”

For simply posting a link to a website that has material someone else deems hateful, you could go to jail for two years and be branded a criminal.

That is a section of an article pertaining to the omnibus crime bill, that particular part of the bill is what worries me, not the rest of it. The rest of its fine. just that part right there. "I hate corporations, for these reasons, here have a link that states my reasons with relevant information"

Originally posted by TheRemedial
reply to post by AzureSky

 

In the days of old one could enter a town at a public function, stand on a table and call out for attention and be heard. This was and is very much the same as coming online and speaking your mind. Canadian's should fight this bill tooth and nail before the digitally signed cage is surrounding your person, monitoring and judging you in real time.

Very dangerous stuff indeed.

In the days of old one could enter a town at a public function, stand on a table and call out for attention and be heard

That there was the start of a revolution in America The Revolutionary War!

How to Catch a Hog theory will be in effect !

much like these !

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If the American Govt! Did this it would not be a Pretty Site

I Betcha the AMERICAN GOVT is Pushing it !

(READ)

Protecting Your Privacy on the Internet
Canada’s new privacy law
www.priv.gc.ca...

Legislative Summary of Bill C-51:
Investigative Powers for the 21st Century Act*
www.parl.gc.ca...

enabling police to identify all the network nodes and jurisdictions involved in the transmission of data and trace the communications back to a suspect. Judicial authorizations would be required to obtain transmission data, which provides information on the routing but does not include the content of a private communication;

Policing (ALL) Networks !

Noes Not Include Content of a Private Communication! BS!

and that just in the beginning of the section 1.1 Purpose of the Bill

Originally posted by diamount
We're nearing North Korea levels of censorship...

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Cut off or Restricting Communication will cause it !

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