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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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Being Canadian, this is important to read. Thanks for posting!




posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by AzureSky


Well well, seems like this is happening all over the world now isnt it? Now we as canadians will not be allowed to have an Online alias. According to this bill, they will also have surveillance powers for your internet connect, will be able to attain all of your personal information, and be able to track specific types of data, be able to access it without a warrant. AND THEY DONT HAVE TO TELL YOU.

If you are investigated at your local isp, the isp is not required to call you, and tell you about it. Neither are the cops. Goodbye downloading, Goodbye privacy. Fight this bill canada, We cannot allow this.

canadianawareness.org
(visit the link for the full news article)


Wouldn't it be funny if they were actually doing this 10 years ago and no one knew?

Scary food for thought but very possible and plausible IMO.

There Are ways around this if your savvy enough and know how. I'll give you a hint. it involves Wireless. Riots in England.. hack they should riot in Canada and they would actually have a good reason. Too bad you guys don't have the Constitution as we Americans have it.. I know you have your version but I haven't looked into it. If this happened in America there would be riots for sure. Bombings of the White House and the Pentagon, it would probably cause a coup and drastic change oif our government.. come to think about it.. I look forward to it :-)
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 10:02 PM
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The day those laws pass..... will be the day I start falcon punching.
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 10:11 PM
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Well thank god for Canadas "Grandfathering" laws, because I have one of the best Aliases ever created!
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 10:15 PM
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Please sign the petition at www.stopspying.ca...

Enough is ENOUGH! That'll be the day when there is no more internet in my house and fekkem all!



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 10:48 PM
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I would love to sign the petition, but is this a reputable site? It would be ironic to get phisshed on a thread discussing internet privacy and remaining anonymous


If anyone can validate that website, I will gladly sign the petition and send it to everyone I know in the morning. I would look into this site now but I'm half asleep.

I will check back later.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by bobs_uruncle
reply to post by AzureSky
 


What a joke, anonymity is necessary for the internet. It prevents a large number of crimes, like real world stalking. But hey, anonymity protects internet users and actually at present it even protects the government from people finding out they pump out so much BS. Of course if this passes, government trolls will be anonymous but the government will say they are real.

Personally, the trend bothers the hell out of me, but I will continue to use the nom de plume I use on my book because all of the alphabet agencies like CSIS and the CIA already know who that name belongs to and since that is a fact, they don't have a case.

If as it has become patently clear, that one must protect one's self from the government since the government is enacting laws that place the general population (a term used in prisons) in harm's way, the government has to be removed/fired since it does not hold to the interests of its employers, the people. We allegedly have mechanisms for their firing called elections, another joke and since the mass media is in their or their handlers pockets you can't even get the information out there to show all the malfseance and criminal behavior.

As I have always suggested, remove your money from the banks, stop paying all of your bills and bring this BS to a full and complete stop. BUT EVERYONE HAS TO DO IT! It is the most effective way of protesting the policies of these @ssclowns through civil disobedience. It's non-violent and will bring the entire fraudulent system of government down around itself along with the ponzi scheme called the Bank of Canada.

And remember, Russell Williams (serial rapist/murderer) was Stephen Harper's pilot and who did Russell Williams go to university with? Paul Bernardo! Another serial rapist murder. Now someone tell me all this crap isn't planned and covered up, because if CSIS knows what I did for the South Africans, then surely they can figure out what happened in their own backyard. So is CSIS and the prime minister's office stupid, negligent or do they all play for the same "team," the one that's screwing everyone in Canada out of their future? I'd say it's bird's of a feather and all that.....

I wish I was a younger man....

Cheers - Dave
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Thank you for your response, But never give up, no matter what age you are, no matter what you do for a living, everyone can help


44,000 is a lot of people, but consider this for a moment. What if it doesnt matter? 44,000 signatures is a lot of signatures. Im sure the bill is stagnated at the moment, but really, if they wanted to enact it. They would regardless of the amount of signatures.

When that day comes. I take to the streets. And i bring everyone i can with me.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:29 PM
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Originally posted by enament
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Canadians have a hair trigger we will soon have enough and when the government gets too sickening for the general public we'll just have a mail strike,garbage strike or public servant strike. People in general are getting tired of it. People I know that never had anything bad to say about the government before are now waking up and realizing they are going too far.

I think the revolution should start in Newfoundland infect PEI and then spread into the other Maritime Provinces. And once were all riled up we will just hitch hike from there or take VIA or the trans Canada what ever is quicker.And join the rest of Canada in mooning the Parliament building chanting Twisted sister "No were not going to take it". Its time to enforce the Charter Of Rights And Freedoms Act which Harper is Violating. Thats treason.Harper should be arested for being a traitor to Canada. Conservatives can go suck a fart out of my chair cushion.

You can also substitute chair cushion for arse.Which ever smells sarcastically the best.Or even substitute fart for "wet fart".

Watch the vid

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I do not think the newfies would be the first to start unrest. I could definatly see it though *laughs* I am a half newf. So i guess maybe thats where i get my rage.

I do not know the nfld situation, i don't hear much come out of there, i have family there too :/, lots of development in the area, once beautiful is now destroyed by houses upon houses.. turning it into a giant housing project.

NS might start up first, But we do not have so many things that happen down here that would cause that kind of unrest, i thought i heard tell of a man with a disablity and unable to talk getting tazed by police, while his mother screamed at them that he was disabled... Dunno though, searching.

I will walk there if i have to.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
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I would love to sign the petition, but is this a reputable site? It would be ironic to get phisshed on a thread discussing internet privacy and remaining anonymous


If anyone can validate that website, I will gladly sign the petition and send it to everyone I know in the morning. I would look into this site now but I'm half asleep.

I will check back later.



Found the petition through openmedia.ca
Open media's blog about the issue: openmedia.ca... nline-security
Open Media's referral to the petition: www.themarknews.com...[/ b]

Open Media's Mission:


To advance and support a media communications system in Canada that adheres to the principles of access, choice, diversity, innovation and openness. OpenMedia.ca is a national, non-partisan, non-profit organization working to advance and support an open and innovative communications system in Canada. OpenMedia.ca provides a united voice at CRTC hearings, facilitates citizen engagement, and works towards the creation of a solid Internet infrastructure. We strive to make media and telecommunications more transparent, with broader and more representative public participation. Our job is to shine a spotlight on key media policy developments, and provide essential tools and information for citizen engagement.


There was just a public hearing regarding privacy and metered internet usage. Open Media went to the CRTC with the tens of thousands of petitioners that signed up.


Thanks to your support, Bell and the other Big Telecoms started to back down on controlling their independent competitors and the CRTC (finally!) began talking about serving and protecting the Canadian public. This happened because hundreds of thousands of Canadians like you were backing us, and the CRTC knew it. We’re waiting for fall to get the CRTC’s final decision, but in the meantime, big phone and cable companies are not giving up without a fight—in fact they’re doubling down on greed. These companies are raising prices across the board while they still can, and trying to cozy up to policymakers: Bell has just appointed former Industry Minister Jim Prentice as a board member, and Telus has done the same with former Conservative MP Stockwell Day.

( here is an article about it in the Vancouver Sun )

I think it's a pretty legitimate site, doing something is better than doing nothing...



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 12:01 AM
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An online petition is good, but what if the online petition fails? what if its passed anyways? Not being a pessemist, just wondering your views on what would happen.

And yes, i know all about the NAU. I have found lots of evidence about that. Anyways, thats not the subject at this time.

We all fight in our own way, i signed the petition because its one more name. I also fight in other means.

PM if interested in knowing that aspect.

If it does pass, i predict lots of pissed off canadians, and canadians, are unforgiving.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by AzureSky
Thank you for your response, But never give up, no matter what age you are, no matter what you do for a living, everyone can help


44,000 is a lot of people, but consider this for a moment. What if it doesnt matter? 44,000 signatures is a lot of signatures. Im sure the bill is stagnated at the moment, but really, if they wanted to enact it. They would regardless of the amount of signatures.

When that day comes. I take to the streets. And i bring everyone i can with me.


I don't give up, it's not in my nature. The problem is that we are all apparently incapable of getting together against these clowns. There's no way they will ever let us use their mass media against them. The only alternative is for all of us to commit to telling 100 people each what is going on and hope that when the crunch comes, they don't all turn into jellyfish. A survey or petition is not enough.

Before you take the streets, talk to me and maybe I'll send you some countermeasures ;-)

Cheers - Dave



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 12:33 AM
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Originally posted by bobs_uruncle

Originally posted by AzureSky
Thank you for your response, But never give up, no matter what age you are, no matter what you do for a living, everyone can help


44,000 is a lot of people, but consider this for a moment. What if it doesnt matter? 44,000 signatures is a lot of signatures. Im sure the bill is stagnated at the moment, but really, if they wanted to enact it. They would regardless of the amount of signatures.

When that day comes. I take to the streets. And i bring everyone i can with me.


I don't give up, it's not in my nature. The problem is that we are all apparently incapable of getting together against these clowns. There's no way they will ever let us use their mass media against them. The only alternative is for all of us to commit to telling 100 people each what is going on and hope that when the crunch comes, they don't all turn into jellyfish. A survey or petition is not enough.

Before you take the streets, talk to me and maybe I'll send you some countermeasures ;-)

Cheers - Dave


I know what you mean sir,
There seems like there is nothing going here in the north. A petition is not enough, it never was enough, and never will be enough. How many petitions were actually successful? If it is, awsome, if not. Well there is a back up plan.

We can all start using proxies, VPN, etc, but we shouldn't have to.

Ill definatly msg you, i would like some countermeasures
, Throw the tear gas back? hehe



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by enament
reply to post by Blackmarketeer
 


Canadians have a hair trigger we will soon have enough and when the government gets too sickening for the general public we'll just have a mail strike,garbage strike or public servant strike. People in general are getting tired of it. People I know that never had anything bad to say about the government before are now waking up and realizing they are going too far.

I think the revolution should start in Newfoundland infect PEI and then spread into the other Maritime Provinces. And once were all riled up we will just hitch hike from there or take VIA or the trans Canada what ever is quicker.And join the rest of Canada in mooning the Parliament building chanting Twisted sister "No were not going to take it". Its time to enforce the Charter Of Rights And Freedoms Act which Harper is Violating. Thats treason.Harper should be arested for being a traitor to Canada. Conservatives can go suck a fart out of my chair cushion.

You can also substitute chair cushion for arse.Which ever smells sarcastically the best.Or even substitute fart for "wet fart".

Watch the vid

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Wait a second here, you don't honestly believe we have sovereignty do you? Tell me you don't believe that Canada is a country? Because it isn't! We are a British Colony and Harper is an @sspuppet controlled by the inbreds in England through the viceroy, the governor general. If you don't believe it, read the King George 1947 Letters Patent.

So, it isn't Harper selling us out, he's just the "front man," the broker, to focus your attention away from ole' quennie across the pond and her central bank, the boc. And Obozo is another @sspuppet who works for wall street and the fed. It's all smoke and mirrors. These idiots all breached the public contract ages ago!

Any CSIS trolls on here want to challenge me on this?

Cheers - Dave



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 01:27 AM
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Originally posted by AzureSky

Goodbye internet privacy in canada.


canadianawareness.org

Where are internet aliases most commonly used by Canadians today? They are almost universally used in internet forums, bloggers’ comments sections, and comment sections of other websites. This law will make using an alias a crime. It is not likely they will try to prosecute everyone using an alias online but it will give the government the means to identify and criminalize anyone who writes anything the government disapproves of. Imagine an internet where Canadians were forbidden by law to speak anonymously.
(visit the link for the full news article)


Whilst I disapprove of the law, I must point out that the Internet has never been anonymous...



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by Death_Kron

Originally posted by AzureSky

Goodbye internet privacy in canada.


canadianawareness.org

Where are internet aliases most commonly used by Canadians today? They are almost universally used in internet forums, bloggers’ comments sections, and comment sections of other websites. This law will make using an alias a crime. It is not likely they will try to prosecute everyone using an alias online but it will give the government the means to identify and criminalize anyone who writes anything the government disapproves of. Imagine an internet where Canadians were forbidden by law to speak anonymously.
(visit the link for the full news article)


Whilst I disapprove of the law, I must point out that the Internet has never been anonymous...


You make a really valid point. Not when people put their stuff out there for all to see. But yes, it is not anonymous really at all, but most people just dont realize it, nor care. But this is blatant violation. Am i worried about hackers? no. Not in the least. No reason to really. Steal my data, dont really care to be honest.

But thats not the point. I dont like the idea of being spied on, real time, from a government controlled ISP, No thanks. Maybe some people wont share the same view, thats their pathology. Ill fight this tooth and nail.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 01:33 AM
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We have a similar thing here in NZ. Downloads being tracked and guilty till proven innocent if accused of downloading stuff based on our IP address. Such a # law, the future will be a combination of the two I suspect.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 01:34 AM
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Could you please define alias ? Do you mean a nickname in a chat forum etc or false info on email account etc ?? thx for the thread !!



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 01:40 AM
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Like I said, personally I disapprove as well; just another step to an 1984 Orwellian society. Just pointing out that the Internet by it's very nature ain't anonymous and everything can be tracked by someone with a little knowledge and patience.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 02:38 AM
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well that should be awkward for all of the people on dating sites



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 02:43 AM
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ha, now that was rather funny..





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