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Athiest society? why not loot! (designed this way)

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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 10:43 AM
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In the old days,
business, corporations,
and the state could be dismissive
if someone wasn't cut out for the job.

The church would feed the poor,
teach some basic community expectations,
maybe even help the sincere ones find work.


But take everything away from a person,
show them that illegal activity pays well,
with the same TV preach non stop materialism,
and one will get empty churches, and absent family.


I thought Professor Dawkins was supposed to be
shepherding us all into a new age of
scientific ethics and peace.

And incase the reader is in doubt.
Yes, I'm saying the looters
are not the church
going type.

And further
There has been a conspiracy
against christianity on TV for a long while.
How did the name of Jesus become a curse word?


David Grouchy





posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 10:46 AM
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The looters all have one thing in common.
They not only believe in, but are
examples of The Selfish Gene.


David Grouchy



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 10:50 AM
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I don't see any reason to live in Poverty when
there are so many support structures available to help,
no matter the situation. Most people you see that live in
squalor, or have their kids taken away for neglect for
example are drug addicts, alcoholics or what have you.
All self inflicted.


Right,
because we all know that the druggies
are floating that stuff to the British Isles
on their privat fleet of yatchs and jet aircraft.

/head shake
David Grouchy



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 10:51 AM
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atheists have morals too, often higher morals than most religious people's morals. I bet you that between the looters you will find atheists, christians, muslims, pagans, etc, etc, etc. Religion or the lack thereof doesn't say anything about the moral standards of individuals.

atheism.about.com...
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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I'm not seeing any Christian behavior in the looters.
Are you suggesting that it is Muslim, or pagan to do that?

Because I am suggesting that this is the fault of Athiests.
Athiest practice is very high level theology.
Something beginners have just proven
themselves incapable of grasping.


David Grouchy
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 10:58 AM
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Yes Christians are dangerous.
We are dangerous to gang criminals,
weather they be on the street or in the board room.

Thanks for reading.


David Grouchy
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 10:58 AM
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The looters are not the only ones with "selfish genes." All wars, from all countries, are born out of greed. The riches enjoyed from the "spoils of war" are not limited to Christians, but they can sure be held accountable for selfishness too.

Something MUST be done about the global inequality foisted on us by the uber rich. I'm not saying these looters are right, but their voices need to be heard. Anger is a higher emotion than apathy. Apathy is what these people have arisen from. Not atheism. I sincerely doubt that ANY of the rioters have read any of Dawkin's work.
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 10:59 AM
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please define christian behaviour.
please define atheistic behaviour.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by Hellhound604

please define christian behaviour.
please define atheistic behaviour.




ATHIEST: More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason.

ME: Yes, but doesn't that prove that even the name of God is more powerful than anything else?


David Grouchy
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 10:59 AM
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There are people with principles and values and then theres people without principles and values. i bet its not there fault that they turned out to be a scum bag but there still scum bags nonetheless.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:03 AM
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Christianity has taught from the beginning that "I have rights!" is the wrong way to look at life (Beatitudes). Christians started this failure by insisting that people have rights, then it eventually slipped into an entitlement mode of operation. Due to Christianity's humble roots, these 2 separate drives could not coexist, so it is no surprise that a split between Christianity and Social life has happened, long before any of the more modern problems happened.

For instance: I don't think that slavery is right. But early Christianity teaches that if you have a master, you willingly serve them because they own you. This does not mean that Christianity teaches that slavery is the most right thing to do, but that you work with the conditions that life hands to you, and you do right by them because it's your job to convert the man beating you with the whip. This is totally alien to our modern mode of thinking--even for most Christians. We're too far removed from our roots for anything less.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by tyson45
There are people with principles and values and then theres people without principles and values. i bet its not there fault that they turned out to be a scum bag but there still scum bags nonetheless.


Didn't Baudelaire say something to the effect of

'religion is an effective tool for repressing the baser elements of human nature'

But that doesn't fit in with the corporate owned TV's version of Impusle buying, now does it.


David Grouchy



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:06 AM
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You have obviously never read the book or are misinterpreting it to fit your world
view. Either way the idea that these riots are anything to do with atheism is absurd.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by CynicalDrivel
Christians started this failure by insisting that people have rights, then it eventually slipped into an entitlement mode of operation.


Guilty as charged.
But how, then, did the state take over all charitable works?
And how would their report card on said efforts look compared to Christians?


David Grouchy



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:08 AM
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Ha! I like that.

Really, Christian wars, although they did happen in name, were still what wars are always about: who controls the most resources? As soon as you're dealing with resource rights, you're dealing with something that is anti-Christian--goes directly against the founding teachings.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:09 AM
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religion is a choice...maybe not so much hundred of years ago but it is now. you can choose to not be religious or you can choose to be religious. Why is it your concern about what other people believe?



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by Atzil321
You have obviously never read the book or are misinterpreting it to fit your world
view. Either way the idea that these riots are anything to do with atheism is absurd.




Maybe so.
Definetly could be the case.

Or, once again, it could be the situation
that I'm way ahead of the curve on this,
and as usual it wont be for a couple of
years before people begin to realize
"hey that Grouch was right!"

/head shake
David Grouchy



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by tyson45

religion is a choice...maybe not so much hundred of years ago but it is now. you can choose to not be religious or you can choose to be religious. [color=gold] Why is it your concern about what other people believe?


It wasn't.
Until I saw that roving gangs of amoral criminals were running the streets.

Don't worry. It won't be "popular" to agree openly with this conclusion,
and it's far too late to convert to Catholicism for most all Brits.

But there is still time, and grounds, to demand better results
from the leaders of your academic institutions.
Where is your Dawkins in all of this.

Hmmmm?


David Grouchy
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:17 AM
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Is he going to write a book in Chav,
to usher in the age of ethics,
or are social disasters not
part of his purview?


David Grouchy
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:18 AM
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im failing to follow your point. So you see a bunch of 15 years olds looting because the police cant control them and all of a sudden you want to change the outlook on religion? seems a bit far fetched but hey to each his own i guess.



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