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Originally posted by theyrout2getus
reply to post by sir_slide
Just because there are tool marks doesn't mean they aren't old. It is possible they were machine polished for sales purposes afterward. I can't see why the authentication "experts" would overlook this.
Originally posted by stainlesssteelrat
Ahh, my heart aches when I think how many of them could be destroyed by some people who were afraid of them. Story about spanish missionary... well, religious zealots, u gotta love them.
Regarding how were they made. Think it would be worthy to pursue subject how they were cut not along axis (if they really are), if it's REALLY impossible using all wonders of today's technology, then it would make very credible proof that their origin is either out of this world, or that we know a squat about history and civilizations once habitating earth.
So anyone familiar with the subject?
Oh, btw, to say that they are poorly made is like to say universe is rather simple design.edit on 12-8-2011 by stainlesssteelrat because: add
Originally posted by redgy
one thing that comes to mind is why would these skulls be given to primitive tribes, thousands of years in advance, to be lost, then requiring a race against time in finding and bringing all skulls together again or else some major catastrophe strikes all mankind as failure..
If these skulls were reguarded as being so important, why allow them to become lost, forgotten and also separated from each other in the first place, having a device that had no practical use or knowhow for it's protectors or all mankind until some prophesied end of age arrives to take place, seems a bit too trusting of the original race to be sure these skulls would survive for so long or that any memory for use would remain intact.
Originally posted by Simplynoone
Wow the skulls again eh ? I had never heard of these skulls before until I had a dream about one of them a few years ago .I want to first say that I am a Christian (as you all know) and I did not read about New Age Alien stuff ever before this dream,in fact it was the dream that got me digging on these skulls that led me to reading about all of the new age stuff .Anyway the dream begins with a clear skull in a MUSEUM,it was displayed all alone in the middle of it where many people were coming in and out looking at it,then all of a sudden a man came in dressed in black who had a huge sword in his hand and swung at the skull hitting it right on the top of its head,the skull did not crack but it suddenly began beaming light out of it like it had just come alive and everyone who saw this was stunned and mesmerized so much by it that they didnt move at all and just stood staring at it, the skull had awakened by the sword hitting it and was now eminating light everywhere (as if alive) ...end of dream ....SERIOUSLY I have no clue what this dream meant,I still dont .....
You're actually wrong.
They tried to recreate the MH skull and failed miserably, it was actually a bit of a joke.
Anna had already submitted it to tests, and they concluded "the damn thing shouldn't even exist", if I owned I certainly wouldn't put it through further tests just to satisfy the skeptics, screw the skeptics.
If you can provide examples of modern skull that rival the Ancient ones then I'm all ears, otherwise all you have is your skepticism, nothing else. no evidence, just preconceived notions of the skulls lack of authenticity.
The skull is made from a block of clear quartz about the size of a small human cranium, measuring some 5 inches (13 cm) high, 7 inches (18 cm) long and 5 inches wide. The lower jaw is detached. In the early 1970s it came under the temporary care of freelance art restorer Frank Dorland, who claimed upon inspecting it that it had been "carved" with total disregard to the natural crystal axes without the use of metal tools. Dorland reported being unable to find any tell-tale scratch marks, except for traces of mechanical grinding on the teeth, and he speculated that it was first chiseled into rough form, probably using diamonds, and the finer shaping, grinding and polishing was achieved through the use of sand over a period of 150 to 300 years. He said it could be up to 12,000 years old. Although various claims have been made over the years regarding the skull's physical properties, such as an allegedly constant temperature of 70 °F (21 °C), Dorland reported that there was no difference in properties between it and other natural quartz crystals.
While in Dorland's care the skull came to the attention of writer Richard Garvin, at the time working at an advertising agency where he supervised Hewlett-Packard's advertising account. Garvin made arrangements for the skull to be examined at HP's crystal labs at Santa Clara, where it was subjected to several tests. The labs determined only that it was not a composite (as Dorland had supposed), but that it was fashioned from a single crystal of quartz. The lab test also established that the lower jaw had been fashioned from the same left-handed growing crystal as the rest of the skull. No investigation was made by HP as to its method of manufacture or dating.[
Again, if it can be reproduced, then why has it not been reproduced?
I understand that you flat out believe the MH skull is a 'modern fake' but what I would like to know, is after reading everything related to it, if you have done so, is where it was made, by whom, when and how, it would also be beneficial if you could provide us with the source of the quartz, seeing as you're such an expert in this area..,...
The earliest published reference to the skull is the July 1936 issue of the British anthropological journal Man, where it is described as being in the possession of Mr. Sydney Burney, a London art dealer who is said to have owned it since 1933. No mention was made of Mitchell-Hedges. There is documentary evidence that Mitchell-Hedges bought it from Burney in 1944.
Perhaps the most famous and enigmatic skull was allegedly discovered in 1924 by Anna Le Guillon Mitchell-Hedges, adopted daughter of British adventurer and popularist author F.A. Mitchell-Hedges.
The skull was in the custody of Anna Mitchell-Hedges, the adopted daughter of Frederick. She steadfastly refused to let it be examined by experts (making very doubtful the claim that it was reported on by R. Stansmore Nutting in 1962). Somewhere between 1988–1990 Anna Mitchell-Hedges toured with the skull.
Mitchell-Hedges repeatedly made claims of having "discovered" Indian tribes and "lost cities" that had already been documented years, sometimes centuries, before. He claimed he discovered "the cradle of civilization" in the Mosquito Coast of Nicaragua, and that the Bay Islands of Honduras were remnants of the lost civilization of Atlantis.
For a time in the 1930s he had a weekly radio show out of New York City on Sunday evenings. Talking over a background of "jungle drums", Mitchell-Hedges would tell dramatic tales of his adventures, usually including narrow escapes from death at the hands of "savages" or from jungle animals ranging from a jaguar to a vicious attacking iguana.
Mitchell-Hedges claimed to have discovered a "crystal skull" — he called it "The Skull of Doom" — at the Maya ruin of Lubaantun (which he also claimed to have discovered) on an expedition to British Honduras (present-day Belize) in the 1920s. However he published no mention of the skull until the late 1940s, not long after a crystal skull was auctioned off by Sydney Burney at Sotheby's in 1943. Mitchell-Hedges's crystal skull could have been the one from Sotheby's as a skull with identical measurements was described in 1936, and its owner was Sydney Burney.