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The Mysterious World of the Crystal Skulls

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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 09:25 AM

The Mysterious World of the Crystal Skulls

Welcome to the strange and mysterious world of the Crystal Skulls.

Much has been said and written about the skulls over time. they have attracted global interest since they first started appearing around the 19th century. They have fascinated historians, scholars, writers, psychics and the general public because of their seemingly mysterious origins.

There are ancient legends of crystal skulls in numerous cultures throughout the world, predominantly in the American continent. They are reported to have strange powers and the mystery surrounding the origins of these skulls is still in hot debate today. Mainstream academics argue that they are all modern fakes, fabrications made around the 18th19th, and 20th centuries with modern tools, instead of being legitimately ancient artifacts. While many of the skulls have been put through extensive tests to determine their origins only some can shed light on this. The remaining skulls still remain anomalous, with a scientist at Hewlett Packard stating “The damn thing shouldn't even be” in reference to the Mitchell Hedges Hedges skull.

There are many modern crystal skulls in circulation at this point, so during this thread I will focus on the most famous, mysterious and anomalous of the Crystal Skulls known to us at this point in time.

While some claim they are modern fakes, others claim they are truly ancient, ranging from 3,600 years old to 12,000 years old or more. They are reported to have psychic qualities. They are also reported to be ancient computers, storing the history of mankind, a far different history than we are currently aware. Psychics have used it to view ancient battles and past lives, they have seen scenes from the lost continent of Atlantis. Psychics have also channelled messages through the skull, messages about a change that is coming, a change associated with 2012. As we approach the coming change the skulls in legend are supposed to emerge, and be bought together, all 13 of them to help humanity in this time.

So during this thread I’m going to present you with a detailed look inside the world of the Crystal Skulls.

A lot has been written about the skulls in many places, and much has been said on ATS in regards to them, so for the sake of presentation I will be presenting it through many different sources.
Remember this is the mysterious world of the Crystal Skulls and much is still in debate, some things just cannot be explained and remain mysteries to us. Although many people will say that yes, they’re fakes. There is so much surrounding these strange artifacts that to an open mind, there may actually be quite a bit of substance to their ancient origin. The way in which some were carved completely defies explanation, and could not be replicated using modern machinery.

Because so much has already been written about the skulls, I'm going to put it all together so people can become more familiar with them and I can lay a lot of it out for people who are interested.

Suspend your skepticism and disbelief and enter the world of the Crystal Skulls!!

British Museum Skull

“The British Museum Crystal Skull ( "BM skull") has had an interesting history. It was originally thought to be of Aztec origin, and was called the "Aztec Skull" until recently. the skull was purchased from Tiffany and Co, New York in 1897. At the time of its purchase, the skull was said to have been brought from Mexico by a Spanish officer before the French occupation (in 1863). It was sold to an English collector and acquired at his death by Eugène Boban. According to Jane MacLaren Walsh, “Tiffany & Co. bought the crystal skull at… auction [from Boban] for $950. A decade later, Tiffany’s sold it to the British Museum for the original purchase price.”

The crystal skull of the British Museum first appeared in 1881, in the shop of the Paris antiquarian, Eugène Boban. Its origin was not stated in his catalog of the time. He is said to have tried to sell it to Mexico's national museum as an Aztec artifact, but was unsuccessful. Boban later moved his business to New York City, where the skull was sold to George H. Sisson. It was exhibited at the meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in New York City in 1887 by George F. Kunz.[38] It was sold at auction, and bought by Tiffany and Co., who later sold it at cost to the British Museum in 1897.[39] This skull is very similar to the Mitchell-Hedges skull, although it is less detailed and does not have a movable lower jaw.[40] The British Museum catalogues the skull's provenance as "probably European, 19th century AD"[41] and describes it as "not an authentic pre-Columbian artefact".[42] It has been established that this skull was made with modern tools, and that it is not authentic.

The Paris Skull

Once again we encounter Eugène Boban.
He sold the Quai Branly skull to a French collector in 1875. According to Jane MacLaren Walsh, “After returning to France, he opened an antiquities shop in Paris in the 1870s and sold a large part of his original Mexican archaeological collection to Alphonse Pinart, a French explorer and ethnographer. In 1878, Pinart donated the collection, which included three crystal skulls, to the Trocadero, the precursor of the Musée de l’Homme”. The large Quai Branly skull is one of these. Analysis of the surface of the Quai Branly skull has revealed tell-tale markings which come from machine tools working on the skull.

This seems to quash any claim that the skull is pre-Columbian, and may even do the same for any connection with Central America whatsoever. The quartz from which the skull is fashioned originates in the Alps rather than the Andes. It is understood to come from South Germany where there was a cottage industry for the production of relics of this sort in the mid-19th century. The skull has a small hole at the top which was probably meant to receive a small crucifix. Fortunately (according to Jane MacLaren Walsh) we have a better scientific understanding of the nature and likely origins of the raw material from which the Quai Branly Skull is carved, “the Musée du Quai Branly has begun a program of scientific testing on the piece that will include advanced elemental analysis techniques like particle induced X-ray emission and Raman spectroscopy, so we may know more about its material and age in the near future”.

The Smithsonian Skull

The Smithsonian Crystal Skull has stirred up a hot debate from the moment it arrived anonymously at the Smithsonian Museum in Washington DC in 1992. Although it was reportedly purchased in Mexico in 1960, it was originally presented to the Smithsonian Institution as being of Aztec origin, therefore the crystal skull was accepted by the museum and included in its collection.

The Smithsonian Crystal Skull exhibits some very unusual characteristics that are unique and different from any of the known "ancient crystal skulls": first, it is hollow, and second, it is extremely large and weighs over 30 pounds. With the guidance of Jane MacLaren Walsh representing the Smithsonian Institution Crystal Skull, along with Margaret Sax, a scientist representing the British Museum Crystal Skull, there were extensive tests carried out at the British Museum's Research Laboratory in 1996. These tests concluded that the Smithsonian Museum Crystal Skull and the British Museum Crystal Skull were not as ancient as they were purported to be, and were therefore reclassified. The Smithsonian Crystal Skull was determined to be a contemporary crystal skull. Jane MacLaren Walsh believes that it was perhaps carved in Mexico shortly before it was purchased in 1960, and therefore refers to it as a "modern fake".

Sha Na Ra

The crystal skull Sha Na Ra, named in memory of a Shaman Healer, is made of clear quartz. It has the unusual distinction of having been discovered in an actual archeological dig in Mexico - therefore providing further credibility to its status as a true ancient crystal skull.

What is also unusual about the crystal skull ShaNaRa resurfacing is the way that it was found. It was located through a method called "psychic archeology", which means that the location of the find was pinpointed by intuitive guidance.

It is interesting to note that many of the present caretakers, particularly of ancient crystal skulls, had some sort of premonition, dream or insight, as if the crystal skull was acting as some kind of beacon, beckoning them to it.

A pioneer in crystal skull research, F.R. Nick Nocerino was in the Guererro province of Central Mexico when he was asked to use his paranormal powers to pinpoint locations where artifacts would be found. The story as he explained it on national British Television goes as follows:

Some diggers who were digging in some old ruins up along Rio Bassa, they really wanted to do, was see if I would perform some pyschometry where I would touch an area and say 'hey there's something here or something there', which we did and I went along and we did some touching, and I said 'Dig there', and we came across a terracotta basket and we found ShaNaRa.

Sha Na Ra is one of the few crystal skulls in the world that has been scientifically examined and proven to be truly ancient. Sha Na Ra and the crystal skull Max were examined at the British Museum at the same time that the Smithsonian Crystal Skull and the British Museum Skull were determined to be modern "fakes" (as the curator of the Smithsonian calls them) because of tool marks found on those skulls - no such tool marks were found on either Sha Na Ra or Max, affirming that they are truly ancient.

The ancient crystal skull Sha Na Ra is still in the family of the late Nick Nocerino, who encouraged Kirby Seid to present it to the public, according to Nick Nocerino's wishes. Kirby Seid is an expert in the crystal and mineral field who has traveled the world for crystals and ancient artifacts. In 2009, the youngest daughter of F.R. 'Nick' Nocerino was guided to step up and continue her father's legacy.

Michele Nocerino Jesse is the current caretaker of Sha Na Ra. You have the opportunity to personally experience the power of this ancient crystal skull as Michele lectures and conducts public and private sessions with Sha Na Ra.

Max the Texas Skull


Max is an authentic ancient crystal skull; a wonder of the world estimated to be thousands of years old and considered by many, to be one of the rarest artifacts ever found on this planet.

Max was discovered in Guatemala and was used by Mayan priests for healing, rituals, and prayers. Lama Norbu, and American, trained to be a powerful healer of the Tibetan sect of Red Hat lamas, studied in the tiny Asian nation of Sikkim with his own teacher, Lama Norbu Lampas, and in Guatemala with Mayan priests, where he came into the presence of Max. Norbu was given this precious skull when he left the Mayans to continue on his path as a healer. His travels took him to Houston, Texas, where he started a healing foundation. The crystal skull sat on his altar as a healing and spiritual tool.

It was during this time that JoAnn and Carl met the lama through their family medical doctor when their twelve year old daughter, Diana, was dying of bone cancer. JoAnn ended up working for the foundation and the lama for many years. Before Norbu died, he gave the cherished crystal skull to the Parks with no explanation except that someday when the time was right, they would know what the crystal skull was all about. JoAnn did not know what to do with the crystal skull, so she placed it in a box in her closet for many years.

In 1987 JoAnn saw a TV show that led her to Mr. F.R. 'Nick' Nocerino of California. She found out that he was considered the world's foremost expert on crystal skull research. Mr. Nocerino was "the man" who had searched for Max since 1949. He later acquired Sha Na Ra, another ancient crystal skull.

An old ancient legend tells of thirteen life- size crystal skulls. According to these ancient teachings, one day all of the true ancient crystal skulls will be re-discovered and brought together for their collective wisdom to be made available, but the human race must first be sufficiently evolved, both morally and spiritually so as not to abuse this great power and knowledge. No one knows if this ancient legend is true. However, one day mankind may find out. Max the crystal skull is known nationally and internationally. He has been presented in several documentaries world wide.

In 1996, Max was researched by the British Museum. In conjunction with the BBC British Network, and Everyman Productions a documentary was produced for Britain. This aired on the A&E Network, and the Discovery Channel all over the world. He was featured on the Travel Channel on a show called "Top 10 Mysteries" and a national show called "Strange Universe", He has done a documentary for Japan and the Spanish Channel, and has been featured in the news, including many newspaper articles, books, and videos world wide.

Mayan Skull and the Amethyst Skull

Further examples of primitively sculpted skulls are a couple called the Mayan Crystal Skull and the Amethyst Skull. They were discovered in the early 1900s in Guatemala and Mexico, respectively, and were brought to the U.S. by a Mayan priest. The Amethyst Skull is made of purple quartz and the Mayan skull is clear, but the two are otherwise very alike. Like the Mitchell-Hedges skull, both of them were studied at Hewlett-Packard, and they too were found to be inexplicably cut against the axis of the crystal.

ET Crystal Skull

The crystal skull ET was discovered by a Mayan family near Guatemala while digging on their property in 1906. The present caretaker is Joky Van Dieten (Holland) who has amassed quite a collection of crystal skulls, intentionally creating her own version of 13 crystal skulls. Some might call Joky Van Dieten eccentric - others would regard her as true example of living joy. Her love of travel and her background as the first female racecar driver in Europe is partly the inspiration for a Crystal Skull World Tour in her Hummer. Like most crystal skull guardians, Joky Van Dieten promotes the message of peace and unity - and travels the world to share the crystal skulls and their mission of peace.

And Finally!

The Mitchell Hedges Skull

The most widely celebrated and mysterious crystal skull is the Mitchell-Hedges Skull, for at least two reasons. First, it is very similar in form to an actual human skull, even featuring a fitted removable jawbone. Most known crystal skulls are of a more stylized structure, often with unrealistic features and teeth that are simply etched onto a single skull piece. Second, it is impossible to say how the Mitchell-Hedges skull was constructed.

From a technical standpoint, it appears to be an impossible object which today's most talented sculptors and engineers would be unable to duplicate. The discovery of the Mitchell-Hedges crystal skull, sometimes referred to as the "Skull of Doom", is a controversial matter, and reads like a sci-fi action adventure film.

The skull was made from a single, unusually large block of clear quartz crystal, and measured 5 inches high, 7 inches long, and 5 inches wide, weighing 11 pounds, 7 ounces. It closely corresponds in size to a small human cranium, with near perfect detail, even to rendering the skull without the globular prominence or superciliary ridges, which are characteristics of a female.

As the story goes ... One day in 1927, English adventurer, traveler, and writer, F.A. "Mike" Mitchell-Hedges, who had a talent for telling colorful stories, was clearing debris from atop a ruined temple at the ancient Mayan city of Lubaantum, located in British Honduras, now Belize. His seventeen-year old daughter Anna, who had accompanied him, suddenly saw something shimmering in the dust below. Anna found an exquisitely carved and polished skull made of rock crystal, with the jaw piece missing. Three months later, she located the jaw in an excavation about 25 feet from the first site.

In 1970, art conservator and restorer Frank Dorland was given permission by the Mitchell-Hedges estate to submit the quartz skull to tests conducted at the Hewlett-Packard Laboratories at Santa Clara, California. From these tests, and from careful studies done by Dorland himself, the skull revealed a whole array of anomalies. When submersed in a benzyl alcohol bath, with a beam of light passing through, it was noted that both the skull and jaw piece had come from the same quartz block. What was astounding to the testers, however, is they found that the skull and jaw had been carved with total disregard to the natural crystal axis in the quartz.

Since the 1954 publication of Mitchell-Hedges's memoir, Danger My Ally, this third-generation, twentieth-century skull has acquired a Maya origin, as well as a number of fantastic, Indiana Jones-like tall tales. His adopted daughter, Anna Mitchell-Hedges, who died last year at the age of 100, cared for it for 60 years, occasionally exhibiting the skull privately for a fee. It is currently in the possession of her widower, but 10 nieces and nephews have also laid claim to it. Known as the Skull of Doom, the Skull of Love, or simply the Mitchell-Hedges Skull, it is said to emit blue lights from its eyes, and has reputedly crashed computer hard drives.

Crystal Skulls via Jane Walsh:

Crystal skulls have undergone serious scholarly scrutiny, but they also excite the popular imagination because they seem so mysterious. Theories about their origins abound. Some believe the skulls are the handiwork of the Maya or Aztecs. Some insist that they originated on a sunken continent or in a far-away galaxy.

Quartz Crystal

Quartz is the second most abundant mineral in the Earth's continental crust, after feldspar. It is made up of a continuous framework of SiO4 silicon–oxygen tetrahedra, with each oxygen being shared between two tetrahedra, giving an overall formula SiO2. There are many different varieties of quartz, several of which are semi-precious gemstones. Especially in Europe and the Middle East, varieties of quartz have been since antiquity the most commonly used minerals in the making of jewelry and hardstone carvings.

The word "quartz" is derived from the German word "quarz" and its Middle High German ancestor "twarc", which probably originated in Slavic (cf. Czech tvrdý ("hard"), Polish twardy ("hard")).

Quartz crystals have piezoelectric properties; they develop an electric potential upon the application of mechanical stress. An early use of this property of quartz crystals was in phonograph pickups. One of the most common piezoelectric uses of quartz today is as a crystal oscillator.

The quartz clock is a familiar device using the mineral. The resonant frequency of a quartz crystal oscillator is changed by mechanically loading it, and this principle is used for very accurate measurements of very small mass changes in the quartz crystal microbalance and in thin-film thickness monitors.Quartz's piezoelectric properties were discovered by Jacques and Pierre Curie in 1880.
The quartz oscillator or resonator was first developed by Walter Guyton Cady in 1921.[17] George Washington Pierce designed and patented quartz crystal oscillators in 1923.[18] Warren Marrison created the first quartz oscillator clock based on the work of Cady and Pierce in 1927.[“
Piezoelectricity is the charge which accumulates in certain solid materials (notably crystals, certain ceramics, and biological matter such as bone, DNA and various proteins) - cite_note-InstrumentAnalysis-0

Psychic Properties

Quartz is reported to have psychic qualities. Psychics and healers use it as it is a very high conductor of energy. Not only can it be used in things like computers to store and transmit data, it can also amply human energies, specifically psychic energies. Some have said that the shape of the skull combined with the quartz crystal can create one of the highest vibrations on the physical plane. People specifically use the skulls for communication with the spirit world, but there are many other uses for them.

In recent times, many people have used the skulls for scrying, or visual meditation sessions. Many have reported visions, often scenes from an ancient or foreign civilisation. The scenes witnessed vary strikingly, however. Some people have reported observing scenes from Mayan history, while others have reported receiving knowledge from Atlantis.

Tom Bearden, an expert in the field of psychotronic studies, believes that, in the hands of a skilled mediator and mental focaliser, the crystal skull also served not only as a vehicle to transform life field energy into electromagnetic energy and other physical effects, but also aided in healing, by the altering of its crystalline resonance to match that of a patient's mind and body frequencies, and affecting curing energies on the skull that would manifest in the patient's auric field. The skull should thus be used as an amplifier and a transmitter of psychic and earth energy forces.

Clear Quartz is known as the "master healer" and will amplify energy and thought, as well as the effect of other crystals. It absorbs, stores, releases and regulates energy. Clear Quartz draws off negative energy of all kinds, neutralising background radiation, including electromagnetic smog or petrochemical emanations. It balances and revitalises the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual planes. Cleanses and enhances the organs and subtle bodies and acts as a deep soul cleanser, connecting the physical dimension with the mind.

Clear Quartz enhances psychic abilities. It aids concentration and unlocks memory. Stimulates the immune system and brings the body into balance. Clear Quartz (Crystal Quartz, Rock Crystal) harmonises all the chakras and aligns the subtle bodies. • •

According to believers in the supernatural and the occult, crystal skulls are more than just interesting artifacts. They may represent doom and destruction, or hope and healing. Some people think that crystal skulls can be used like crystal balls to see visions of the past, present and future. They claim that the skulls emit psychic energy, auras or even sounds. Believers point to Mayan creation myths that reference crystal skulls and a story that 13 crystal skulls were scattered by the Mayans thousands of years ago to be discovered and reunited in modern times. •

The meaning of crystal skulls isn't the only thing up for debate; there's also a lot of mystery surrounding their history. Some think that they're thousands of years old and could have been placed by aliens, or are relics of lost civilizations like Atlantis or Lemuria. Others call them "fakes," carved within the last few hundred years and sold with phony stories so they could bring better prices at auction. The controversy dates back to the mid-1930s and continues today, despite the assertions of both New Age believers and skeptics. •

Origins and Purpose

One of the most debated aspects regarding the skulls is their origin, while there is a lot of speculation as to where and how they were made, there is no solid evidence. Many have appeared in Central America and there is also a link to Tibet. While we know that some appeared in central America and were later sold at auction to private collectors, there is actually no way of knowing who made them. If they are indeed modern fakes then one would assume their purpose to be ornamental, but if they are indeed ancient then their purpose can only be speculated about.

Native tribes that have stories relating to the Crystal Skulls are:
* The Mayans of Mexico. These skulls are mentioned in the Popol Vul.
* The Aztecs of Mexico
* The Pueblo and Navajos in South-Western United States
* The Cherokees and the Senecas (of the Iroquois League) in North-Western United States.

“The Crystal Skulls function like our modern-day computers and were used this capacity by a number of ancient civilizations. They contain hidden knowledge and information that when it is fully revealed, will ultimately assist humanity to create a Golden Age of peace and harmony upon our world!”

“They were a powerful tool for healing [Body Mind and Spirit] within such cultures as the Mayans, the Aztecs or even the Atlanteans”

“Relative to today: We have witnessed many people’s lives being profoundly affected after having had an opportunity to spend time in the presence of a very old crystal skull. And even now, this type of phenomena is beginning to happen around the ‘Contemporary Crystal Skulls’ as well. Could the crystal skulls then be a type of mini energy vortex or better yet, a catalyst that is helping people to awaken to their true spiritual nature?”

That the skulls were discovered in the Mayan heartland is evidence which accords with the few facts that we know of their provenance. The Mayan Skull and the Amethyst Skull were allegedly found in Guatemala early in the 20th century. The Amethyst Skull is made of purple quartz and the Mayan Skull is clear, but the two are otherwise very alike. Like the Mitchell- Hedges Skull, both were studied at Hewlett-Packard and they, too, were found to be cut against the axis of the crystal, making the craftsmanship all the more difficult and the crystal all the more likely to crack or shatter during the fashioning process.

The Ancient Maya

There is a legend that the ancient Maya possessed 13 crystal skulls, which, when united, hold the power of saving the Earth — a tale so strange and fantastic that it inspired the latest Indiana Jones movie. Experts dismiss the hundreds of existing crystal skulls as fakes that were probably made by colourful antiquities traders in the 19th century. But Mayan priests worship the skulls, even today, and real-life skull hunters still search for them. The true story of the skulls stretches over continents and hundreds of years, and may be even more extraordinary than the tale portrayed in this fourth instalment of the Harrison Ford franchise.... It's possible that the near-human sized fakes may have been inspired by two real crystal skulls now on display at Mexico City's respected National Anthropology Museum... where the museum classifies them as either late pre-Hispanic or early colonial. The skulls' legend has spawned a new breed of followers. Shapiro has travelled the world seeking out skulls, and believes they link us to knowledge of past worlds like the Mayas, the lost civilization of Atlantis or extraterrestrials.

According to the ancient Mayan Calendar we are living in the last days of a great cosmic cycle known as the "Long Count". Traditionally this is labeled as the Death of the 4th period of the Sun and the Birth of the new 5th Sun. The Maya kept accurate and detailed records of Earth's past transitions, and the civilizations that experienced major adjustments in their collective realities. It's no coincidence that the majority of the indigenous traditions and world religions mark our phase of existence as one that harbors a radical adjustment in the perception of reality. This transition to a new era has become known as the "Shift of the Ages".

At this time light-workers are unifying, forming alliances and underground networks to assist the mainstream with this great human transition. One emissary of light is Don Alejandro Cirilo Perez Oxlaj, a 13th Generation Quiche Mayan High Priest. To the indigenous world he is known as "Wandering Wolf". Don Alejandro, in behalf of the Mayan Council of Indigenous Elders in Guatemala, has commissioned a film to be made to reveal visions, concepts, and subject matter previously concealed from the masses. According to Mayan prophecy, we have entered into a period when it is safe to release this information to the public.

The Ancient Ones left stories, glyphs and prophecies to be considered by each successive generation. "The Shift of the Ages" gives expression to the voice of the ancient ones who have known of this period of time for eons. "Wandering Wolf" and other indigenous elders are now sharing their message with the people of our planet. Hear their words, feel their hearts, and see their visions! Positive seeds are being sown for the future. The "Shift of the Ages" is a heart warming, soul inspiring, and mind blowing experience.

The Atlantean Connection

Psychics who have worked with the skulls, and have read the energies stored in them, tell us that some of the skulls date from the Atlantean period.

Atlantis was a mighty civilization believed to have existed from approximately 300,000 to 12,000 years ago. Much of it sank in what is now know as the Atlantic Ocean. Although the Atlanteans used crystal skulls in their temples, there are different stories about how the skulls were made. Edgar Cayce (1877-1945), also called the Sleeping Prophet, who was known for his accurate psychic readings, mentioned the level of technology in Atlantis. He said that the Atlanteans had great crystals that condensed light in a particular way and sent energy out to outlying home devices, as well as to ships or vehicles moving in the air, the water and even in the earth. Their technology was not limited to transport crafts, but also included photography at a distance, reading inscriptions through walls at a distance, overcoming gravity, and so on. Other sources mention that the Atlanteans also had vehicles with which they could travel into outer space. These vehicles seem not to have been made by the Atlanteans themselves, but by extraterrestrials with whom the Atlanteans had connections. The owner of the Amethyst Skull, A Mayan priest, said that the amethyst crystal from which the skull was made had grown on another planet. This is not a unique statement about the outer space origin of the skulls. When I once showed a picture of the Mitchell-Hedges skull to the Hungarian shaman Joska Soos, he said that this skull was not made on Earth, but outside in space. Psychics say that some of the skulls come from other planets and others were made here on earth by extraterrestrials, whether or not in collaboration with Atlantean scientists. Some smaller skulls have been made by Mayans in later times, in an attempt to imitate the ancient crystal skulls.

For an object as mired in legend and lore as the Crystal Skull, perhaps it should come as no surprise that the skull has come to be linked with the ubiquitous fabled lost Atlantis.
However, there is sufficient reason to connect the artifact to Atlantis, since, as previously mentioned, Mitchell-Hedges was a major proponent of the alleged place. There are many people who have taken his theories as gospel and have believed that the magnificently crafted item was created there. According to his speculations, many Atlanteans (fleeing the cataclysm that destroyed them as a race) established themselves in South America and influenced what came to be known as the Mayan civilization (helping to create the many pyramids — as well as other artifacts). Mitchell-Hedges's beliefs had their origins in two of Plato's dialogues (which were the first surviving mentions of the locale). These legends developed more fully during the succeeding millennia.

The Maya came from Atlantis and the Hopi Indians were originally Maya. Some 13,000 years ago, a group of Maya were sent on for a purpose but the purpose they do not say at this time. This group became the Hopi tribe.

The Maya have a second prophecy about a red star, but are not speaking on this yet.

Many ceremonies (communications between mother earth, father sky and the tribal councils) are being conducted in many sacred sites. One of the ceremonies being prepared for is the 13 crystal skull ceremony.

The Maya are said to be preparing preparing for the final 13 crystal skulls ceremony. Each skull is said to represent one period of a thousand years in the interval since the last pole shift and each is infused with the knowledge of the millennium in which it is created. The first skull is said to have been made by the Atlanteans prior to the previous shift . Since then another 12 have allegedly been made by the Maya who are descendants of post-shift Atlantean priests and peoples. However, Candace says that the whole crystal skulls scenario is a black ops disinformation project.

Above, Azilian skulls in a case at the American Museum of Natural History at New York City. The Azilians were singled out as representing the last migration of reugees out of Atlantis at about 10000-12000 years ago and they represent a "Mixed crowd". Both longheaded and shortheaded skulls are included, some of them artificially deformed, and some of them are similar to the Archaic populations of the two Americas starting at that time and including the earliest ancestors of the Mayans.

Each skull was supposed to correspond to 12 worlds in which human life was present. They were brought by the Itza, the ancient people of Atlantis, to their civilisation in order to pass on their knowledge to man.
The 13th world, the land, also had its own crystal skull, and all 13 skulls were kept in a great pyramid by the Olmecs, the Mayas and ultimately the Aztecs.
The Aztecs are said to have been responsible for the dispersal and loss of the skulls, which when brought together possessed great powers, including being lined up on the last day of the Maya calendar -- December 21, 2012 -- to prevent the earth from tipping over.

Other Theories

Here is a semi brief rundown of some other theories concerning the skulls.

· Upon gazing into the Crystal Skull, people who are awake (or aware) have reported seeing galaxies and several universes, pyramids (Mexican, Chinese, Korean, Nigerian and Egyptian) UFOs, thoughtforms, holographic pictures, images and historic scenes.

· The Crystal Skull is like a computer. It has the ability to record, store and release information in the form of images; but first you need to activate it.

· One way to activate the skull is to chant OM MANI PAD-ME HUM in the note of C - A - B. This powerful Sanskrit mantra (a sacred language) is translated, "Praise to the Jewel in the Lotus."

· Colors can also effect it, such as red, green and blue; moonlight is also most effective. Once the skull is activated, you can retrieve information that is encoded within it.

· The skull can transmit sound, color and can effect all five human physical senses.

· Powerful consciousness or intelligence (Beings?) who have transcended the physical planes can communicate through the Crystal Skull. Because direct communication with them is impossible, the skull acts as a bridge to link their dimensional world to our 3-dimensional world. The Crystal Skull in this capacity works like a step-down transformer, so to speak.

· In order to communicate with the Higher Realms through the Crystal Skull, you need to have an elevated vibratory rate. This is a process that goes something like this: When you feel this vibrational change in your body, your entire sub-atomic structure changes. It works from the inside out. It's a physical sensation/process that involves a ringing in your ears, the feeling that time is either too slow or too fast, many aches and pains throughout the body, and you experience tremendous confusion. When this happens to you, you will know that you are going through this process of change.

· The Crystal Skull also appears to have Healing powers as well. People who have been within its presence claim to have received a healing of positive and uplifting energies.

· Some people believe the Crystal Skull had a religious function by theSome people believe the Crystal Skull had a religious function by the Atlanteans, ancient Egyptians, Babylonians, or even the Tibetans. Then, the Phoenicians brought the skull from Babylon to Central America where it came into the possession of the Maya or Aztecs.

The British Museum Tests

In the 1990's, the British Museum decided to run a series of tests on their crystal skull at the British Museum's research laboratory in London. They also invited other crystal skulls to participate in these tests, including Max, ShaNaRa and the Smithsonian Crystal Skull. After detailed examination, they found traces of wheel markings on the British Museum Crystal Skull and on the Smithsonian Crystal Skull.

This indicated that these two skulls had been carved using an apparatus like a jeweller's wheel, which was created in Europe in the 14th Century and brought to the Americas with the Europeans after 1492. Because of this, the researchers concluded that the British Museum Crystal Skull and the Smithsonian Crystal Skull could not have been pre-columbian, and therefore reclassified them as "old" rather than "ancient". However, for some unknown reason, the researchers refused to share the test results for Max and ShaNaRa, leaving their origins a mystery.

These are the indicative tool marks on the Smithsonian skull, paris skull and the British museum skull under microscope.

So while the tests indicated tool marks on three of the skulls tested, they failed to find any on Max and Sha Na Ra, and actually declined to comment on the findings of the tests. Notice that Jane Walsh does not comment on those two skulls, this is very interesting. If they were modern fakes, she would say, if they turned out to be ancient, as in Mayan, Aztec or Incan then one would presume she would indicate this. Her silence in regards to the origins of those two skulls is a clear indication in my mind that they may come from somewhere else, or be made with technology that we do not possess.

Hewlett Packard Tests

In order to understand the fine points of the skull's manufacture, it is important to know more about the material of which it is made. On October 27, 1970, Frank Dorland (to whom the skull was at that time on loan) and Richard Garvin (then the supervisor of the Hewlett-Packard advertising account and later the author of a popular book about the skull) took the skull from its vault and brought it to the Hewlett-Packard laboratory in Santa Clara, California for some tests. Hewlett-Packard makes more crystal oscillators than any other company, and their crystal laboratory tests quartz every day.

The technicians at Hewlett-Packard placed the skull into benzyl alcohol, which has the same refraction index as quartz crystal. This means that the skull would almost disappear when placed in the solution. By passing polarized light through the skull and rotating it, it would be possible to locate the axis and observe "twinning." Twinning, a splitting of the direction of crystal growth which can occur under strong impact (and can happen to a single crystal, or to separate ones which can twin and grow together) had been observed (via noticeable darker stress marks) on the Mitchell-Hedges skull around the eyes, nose, and jaw area.
Hewlett-Packard technicians reported that the Mitchell-Hedges skull (including its separated jawbone) was "almost certainly a single crystal of quartz, rather than a composite of three crystals."13 Before this time, Dorland had hypothesized that the skull was composed of separate pieces of quartz.
Oddly enough (though they were not lapidarians) they also felt that it had taken an incredibly long time to make ("300 man-years of effort"),14 a supposition resembling Mitchell-Hedges' contentions that it had taken at least 150 years to do so.
There is a much-quoted line often found in crystal skull articles that is attributed to a crystallographer working at Hewlett-Packard and is melodramatic indeed: "The damn thing shouldn't even be." Now far be it from a professional magician to find any pleasure in demystification, but it must be said that the existence of the skull is not nearly as bizarre as the mythos now growing up around it.

Properties of the Mitchell Hedges Skull

1. The skull was made from quartz crystal, used in present-day electronic industry:A team of scientists revealed that the skull has been made out of a form of quartz known as piezoelectric silicon dioxide, used in the current telecommunications sector and with a higher memory capacity than other. Latest micro-processors are made from the same substance. Even more striking, however, is the fact that this form of crystal was only discovered in the 19th century.

2. The crystal skull has the ability to produce its own electricity:This crystal, piezoelectric silicon dioxide, is both negative and positively polarized. This means that, as with batteries, it is able to produce its own electricity.
3. The skull was produced from a single block of crystal:Scientists used a series of polarized test lights to establish that the skull and the lower jaw were made from the same block of crystal rock. Considering that quartz crystal is softer and more brittle than diamond, the fact the skull was carved from a single piece of crystal, which is almost impossible, amazed scientists.

4. No signs of any tools were discovered on the skull:The scientists decided to examine the skull under a microscope to determine whether any tools had been used in its manufacture. They were amazed to find no signs that modern automatic equipment or mechanical tools had been used in the crystal skull’s manufacture. Crystal rock is very brittle and friable, and it would have fallen apart had any tools been used during the carving. Because modern manufacturing tools would immediately break it because of their heat and vibrations. Hewlett-Packard concluded that it was impossible to produce such a delicate and fine component as the lower jaw, from a single piece of crystal, even using modern diamond-tipped electrical equipment, without shattering it. This led one of the team of scientists to say, “this skull shouldn’t even exist” and resulted in a number of other observers also speculating that the skull might not be human in origin. Following these tests, the crystal skull was interpreted as having been made by hand.
5. Had the crystal skull been carved by hand, it would have taken around 300 years, and several generations to have its present shape: The scientists calculated that it would have taken several generations to carve the skull, using no tools apart from rubbing at it with a piece of diamond. According to the Hewlett-Packard report, it would have taken some 300 years to shape the skull by abrading it by hand.

6. There are no cracks in the crystal skull, despite its being carved in total violation of the laws of physics: Present-day crystals are carved around their axes. Because crystals have a molecular symmetry. In order not to break the crystal, it has to be cut in line with that natural structure, its molecular symmetry, in other words. Even if lasers of high-tech cutting techniques are used, crystals will still shatter if not cut along their natural axes. But even though this crystal skull was cut in a manner totally independent of its axis, no fracturing or cracking arose, in complete violation of the laws of physics.

7. Scientists were astonished by the crystal skull’s optical design:As a result of the Hewlett-Packard tests, scientists realized that the skull had interesting optical properties. Light applied from beneath the skull should normally be refracted in all directions, but in this skull it forms a channel focusing on the eye sockets and emerging from these.

8. The prism inside the crystal skull concentrates an image of the area in the eyes: There is a kind of prism in the lower, rear part of the skull. Light striking the eye sockets is reflected from here. Therefore, if you look directly into the sockets you see that the whole room is reflected inside the eyes of the crystal skull.

From these tests, and from careful studies done by Dorland himself, the skull revealed a whole array of anomalies. When submersed in a benzyl alcohol bath, with a beam of light passing through, it was noted that both the skull and jaw piece had come from the same quartz block. What was astounding to the testers, however, is they found that the skull and jaw had been carved with total disregard to the natural crystal axis in the quartz.
In modern crystallography, the first procedure is always to determine the axis, to prevent fracturing and breakage during the subsequent shaping process. Yet, the skull's maker appears to have employed methods by which such concerns were not necessary.
The unknown artist also used no metal tools. Dorland was unable to find signs of any tell-tale scratch marks on the crystal, under high-powered microscopic analysis. Indeed, most metals would have been ineffectual, for the crystal has a specific gravity of 2.65, and a Mohs hardness factor of 7. In other words, even a modern penknife cannot make a mark on it.
From tiny patterns in the quartz near the carved surfaces, Dorland determined the skull was first meticulously chiseled into a rough form, probably using diamonds. The finer shaping, grinding and polishing, Dorland believes, was done by applying innumerable applications of solutions of water and silicon-crystal sand. The big problem is, if these were the processes used, then, as Dorland calculated, it would mean that a total of 300 man-years of continuous labor was spent in making the skull. We must accept this almost unimaginable feat, or admit to the use of some form of lost technology in the skull's creation the likes of which we have no equivalent today.
The enigma of the skull, however, does not end with just its making. The zygomatic arches (the bone arch extending along the sides and front of the cranium) are accurately separated from the skull piece, and act as light pipes, using principles similar to modern optics, to channel light from the base of the skull to the eye sockets.
The eye sockets in turn are miniature concave lenses that also transfer light from a source below, into the upper cranium. Finally, in the interior of the skull is a ribbon prism and tiny light tunnels, by which objects held beneath the skull are magnified and brightened.

Strange Phenomena

Another reason that the skulls remain so mysterious is the strange phenomena associated with them. While in museums they have moved in their cases, cleaners refuse to work in the same room as them, people have dreams with vivid details about cultures they know nothing about, people have been reportedly cursed by the skull and died. All sorts of strange things are associated with the skulls, they really do seem to hold some very interesting secrets.

It get's pretty strange here....

It has been reported that the skull exhibits and transmits to the five senses of the human brain; it visibly changes in color and transparency; it exhibits its own unmistakable odor when it wants to; plants thoughts in viewer's minds; makes people thirsty; impresses audible sounds in people's ears; and a sensitive person can feel distinct vibrations and energy when they place their hands near it.

One day in 1963, Anna noticed the Crystal Skull was cloudy and dripping wet. She wiped it dry but it continued to drip. Anna instinctively felt something awful was going to happen. At five o'clock that same day, she turned on the news and learned that President Kennedy had been assassinated.

Observers have reported that, for unknown reasons, the skull will change color. Sometimes the frontal cranium clouds up, looking like white cotton, while at other times it turns perfectly clear, as if the space within disappears into an empty void. Over a period from 5 to 6 minutes, a dark spot often begins forming on the right side and slowly blackens the entire skull, then recedes and disappears as mysteriously as it came.
Other observers have seen strange scenes reflected in the eye sockets, scenes of buildings and other objects, even though the skull is resting against a black background. Still others have heard ringing noises emanating from within, and at least on one occasion, a distinct glow from no known light source surrounded the skull like an aura for up to six minutes.

An article by John Sinclair (entitled "Crystal Skull of Doom") detailed some anecdotes about the malign things that supposedly happen to people who make fun of the skull. One concerned a Zulu witch doctor who, in 1949 (at the request of the skeptical tribal chief), reportedly spat at the thing, performed a mockery dance at it, and was subsequently killed in a hut (along with a wife of the tribe's chief) by a lightning flash out of the single cloud in a formerly cloudless sky. Another such tale was about a news photographer who, not long after the death of the witch doctor, belittled the skull as he photographed it, yelling, "Will me to death! Rot!" Upon leaving Mitchell-Hedges' abode, he drove straight into a truck, killing himself. (A variation on this story, reported elsewhere, recounted that his darkroom supposedly blew up and killed him as he was developing the pictures of the skull.)
In addition, the Sinclair article recounted the deaths of a woman reporter who had belittled the skull (and perished by a mysterious infection leading to heart failure), a New Zealand girl who had challenged it (another heart failure), and even mildly hinted that the heart-attack death of Mitchell-Hedges himself may have been due to the curse of the skull. ("But what induced it no doctor could say.") Other sources have given cerebral embolism as the cause of Mitchell-Hedges' death.
Quoted in the same article, Mitchell-Hedges himself is supposed to have begged Anna to bury the crystal skull with him: "Priceless as this treasure may be, it is a thing of evil and must die with me." If this is accurate, Anna did not respect her foster father's wishes.
Other publications have added to the legend. Psychic magazine mentioned that "in the early 1950's, three women died mysteriously after each had spent time viewing the skull."19 Fate had mentioned but two. Psychic did not cite its sources, so there is no easy way to check up on the claim of yet another death.
Anna Mitchell-Hedges has also related some intriguing accounts. One was about how Adrian Conan Doyle (the son of the creator of Sherlock Holmes) became very edgy when it was around (even if out of sight) and could ascertain (and thus avoid) its presence when he was visiting her. Another concerned how a neighbor's butler felt the skull to be an ominous presence dominating Anna Mitchell-Hedges's house, and once became nearly senseless when the skull was being handled there — 20 miles away from him — angering the neighbor, who believed the artifact to be responsible.

Controversy Surrounding the Skulls

In recent years, the story of how the British Museum acquired the crystal was investigated by Dr Jane MacLaren Walsh of the US Smithsonian Institution. She concluded that the British Museum Skull and the one at Musée de l'Homme (Museum of Man) in Paris were both sold by Eugène Boban. Boban was a controversial collector of pre-Columbian artefacts and an antiques dealer who ran his business in Mexico City between around 1860 and 1880. Though it is indeed likely that Boban placed the skull at Tiffany's for auction, there is no hard evidence. However, such evidence does exist for the Musée de l'Homme Crystal Skull, which in 1878 was donated by collector Alphonse Pinart who had bought it from Boban. Boban's 1881 catalogue does list another crystal skull, "in rock crystal of natural human size", selling for 3,500 French francs – the most expensive item in the catalogue. It is possible it was never sold, and hence was offered to Tiffany's to sell at auction.

Having established these facts, however, Walsh then argued that the skulls are not genuine artefacts but instead were manufactured between 1867 and 1886 in Germany, as German craftsmen were deemed to be the only people with the skills to be able to carve these skulls. Though Boban was indeed a controversial figure, he was, of course, no different from all the other operators on the antiquities markets in those days – some of whom made deals for treasures such as the Rosetta Stone or the Elgin Marbles that continue to upset entire nations from which they were "exported".

However, there is no evidence – not even circumstantial – that Boban sourced these skulls from Germany. It is logical to conclude that, as Boban operated in Mexico, he may have acquired the skulls in Mexico. It would be completely logical to assume that, if they are Aztec in origin, they were offered on the Mexico City antiques market where Boban picked them up. It is the most logical scenario, yet academics seem to prefer the modern German fabrication theory for which there is no evidence. Why? Perhaps they prefer to label them as fakes so as to evade potential claims from Mexican authorities?

As to the fact that the skulls were polished with a wheeled instrument, Professor Freestone himself argued that this in itself does not mean they are modern fabrications (he examined the Paris as well as the London skull in 2004). Though Freestone, Walsh and others suggested this overturns the likelihood that the skulls are pre-Columbian, other experts like Professor Michael D. Coe of Yale University stated that evidence of wheel markings in no way proves that the skulls are modern. He actually said that although it has long been accepted that no pre-Columbian civilisation used the rotary wheel, new evidence contradicts this scientific dogma.

Wafer-thin obsidian ear-spools are now known to have been made using some rotary carving equipment and to be dated to the Aztec/Mixtec period. According to Chris Morton and Ceri Louise Thomas in The Mystery of the Crystal Skulls, Coe concluded (p. 226): "People who sit in scientific laboratories don't know the full range of the culture they're dealing with. We really don't know half as much about these early cultures as we think we do. People need to re-examine their beliefs." Walsh and some of her colleagues have largely presented Boban as a charlatan, but they've failed to report that Boban was known to have owned genuinely ancient artefacts as well as a collection of rare books and early Mexican manuscripts. He had even written a scientific study, "Documents pour server à l'histoire du Mexique" ("Documents to serve the history of Mexico") (1891). Furthermore, he personally crusaded against frauds and fakes, such as in 1881 when he spoke out against forgeries that were being made in the suburbs of Mexico City. Would he shoot himself in the foot that same year by listing a fraudulent crystal skull in his catalogue?

Mentions of the German connection and claims of Boban's dishonesty come from a single letter from one of Boban's competitors, Wilson Wilberforce Blake. He wrote how they should buy from him, not Boban, who was "not honest", and he made accusations that the skull Boban had sold was a forgery, insinuating that the skull had been made in Germany instead. However, no evidence was ever produced for any of these claims, and it is clear that Blake had an obvious motive as to why he wanted to smear Boban's character: he was specifically after Boban's share of the market. In short, Walsh has uncovered good indications that Boban had skulls and sold them; but as to a German connection, she has relied on the words of a man who almost openly stated that he was out to smudge Boban's ethics. As such, the story of how the crystal skulls have been treated by academics has – alas – all the usual hallmarks of how the scientific establishment treats such anomalous finds and pushes them aside, labelling them fakes. And afficionados of the genre will know that involvement of the Smithsonian Institution and the British Museum in such a controversy is not a unique event.

Of more direct relevance is that Nick Nocerino claims that he met a shaman in 1949 while travelling in Mexico. The shaman led him to a Mayan priest who said he was authorised to sell crystal skulls because the village needed money for food. Nocerino didn't buy them, but he did study them. However, it was clear that someone was putting these skulls on sale in Central America. What happened then had happened before, and entire Mayan villages are known to have been "financially supported" by the sale of archaeological goods that at one point they had placed on the black market. With all that on offer, why would Boban need to source a German crystal skull, pay for it and then actually have great difficulty selling it?

Thus there is one likely and logical conclusion, which is that the skulls came from somewhere in Central America. It suggests that these skulls were acquired by certain people through "some" means that did not see the light of day, and that some time later they ended up at auction, the traceability of their origin largely erased. But if they are of Central American origin, what purpose did the skulls serve, assuming they are archaeological treasures? It is a fact that all the sacred centres, including Lubantuun where Mitchell-Hedges allegedly discovered his crystal skull, had a Tzompantli which formed part of the sacred layout of the temple complex, which itself was a three-dimensional rendering of the Mayan creation myth.

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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 10:07 AM
So while much controversy and debate still follows the Crystal Skulls, there is one thing for sure: There is a lot more to these amazing artifacts than we are currently aware.

Currently we are unaware of how built them, the ones deemed modern fakes exhibit small wheel markings yet we do not know who actually built them. As for Sha Na Ra, Max and Mitchell Hedges? They remain an absolute mystery. If they ar truly ancient, which they have been found to be in the formers case then who did build them? The Mayans Aztencs and Incas didnt have wheels to carve crystal and to make objects of such precision would have taken literally hundreds of years of man hours. So if we do assume that they ARE ancient, and the people who possessed them were not capable of making them then one would have to assume that the objects were given to those people. If the Maya truly are descendants of Atlantis then it would be appropriate to assume that the Atlanteans may have given them to the Maya. And if we assume that the Atlanteans may have given them to the Maya then it would lend credence to the information channeled through the skulls that talks about Atlantis and therefore validate their mysterious origins. If they are Atlantean then then what those skulls are saying is very relevant to us right now.

The more work and research we do into consciousness may help the development of technologies similar to that of the Crystal Skulls and help our understanding of them. Because presently we have an incredibly limited understand of the skulls, and the technology behind them.

With all the things happening in the world, the unrest, the poverty, the wars, the hate, the famine, the pain and the suffering maybe it is time that the Skulls came forth, and fulfilled their mission on this planet, to help us realize who we are, where we come from and where we are going. With so much disharmony in the world, we need to unite. Maybe the Crystal Skulls can help guide us towards our true destiny.

Until we learn to expand our minds these beautiful and strange artifacts will remain a mystery to us, that is for sure.

May peace be with you in such a tumultuous time my friends. Hope you enjoyed the read.

Sir Slide

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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:41 AM

Wow great collection of information.

For me though...

The verdict is still out on the authentication of some of the skulls and their true meaning. I suppose any theory is just as good as another when it comes to this topic. I however do believe some are really ancient and may have had some sort of "Other" purpose than just ceremonial. This is yet another reason why I get bent out of shape when I think of all the destroyed documents the Church carried out in their quest to purify the heathens etc.

No telling if the Skulls were discussed and or explained in the lost Codex....

S & F

posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:49 AM
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Cheers for the reply Slayer!

A lot of other things were also destroyed as I'm sure you know. A Spanish priest encountered a crystal skull in a Mayan village and smashed it to pieces upon seeing it, claiming it was the work of the devil. Who knows which skull that was, could have been a really ancient treasure.

For me, with all of the work that has been done with the skulls, psychic channeling and so forth I find it very naive for people to think they're modern fakes, well some of them anyway. The Mayans themselves say they use them for special rituals whch involve connecting to the spirit world and so forth. So for me I definitely believe that at least Sha Na Ra, Max and the Mitchell Hedges are truly ancient and possibly far older than we currently think.

posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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The crystal skull has caught my eye when I watched the show ancient aliens, lately ive been following my intuition and lead me to quite alot of interesting conclussions.

Then I realized that i've seen a skull like that before, my mom who practices Santeria had one in her altar, she warned me not to touch it cause it was "prepared" for something.

But i couldn't help my curiosity.

here is the pics, its made from pure quartz, looks pretty cool under the sun lol.

Probably a replica, my mom said an old lady gave it to her long ago. But I find these skulls pretty damn interesting. perhaps you are right on the crystal skulls being used to help humanity evolve.

S & F great thread!

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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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That is a really beautiful skull!

Santeria seems quite interesting, do you know exactly what the skull is used for in that context? They are powerful things, my brother has one which he named Frank, sometimes if you are overjoyed about something or feeling really amazing and you are near it, you can notice small rainbow patterns emerge in the crystal. How amazing!

Thanks for posting the pics

posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 12:22 PM

Originally posted by sir_slide
reply to post by RisenAngel77

That is a really beautiful skull!

Santeria seems quite interesting, do you know exactly what the skull is used for in that context? They are powerful things, my brother has one which he named Frank, sometimes if you are overjoyed about something or feeling really amazing and you are near it, you can notice small rainbow patterns emerge in the crystal. How amazing!

Thanks for posting the pics

unsure, I just know it's for some spells or something my mother does. Really never asked her, didn't care much for that religion.

Tbh I really have no clue how they work, but i am interested in finding out. It's funny cause all this information arrived when i am seeking enlightenment for Ascension. As for patterns emerging from the crystal, I just noticed from the photos that it does have some energy coming out of it.

Pretty damn cool

posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 12:30 PM
2 questions and please if im wrong someone correct me. I thought that all the skulls found where proven to be fakes in that none of them where as old as there founders claim..And my second question if these skulls where so important to the ancients why are there no writings about them from any cultures. If there where as important as most assume shouldn't they have talked about them excessively in there writings?

posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 12:31 PM
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What's interesting is that Mitchell Hedges claimed that the Mayan priests would use the skull to also put spells on people and said that they could even will death through the skull. There is no doubt in my mind that crystal skulls contain some kind of energy, the only problem is precisely pinpoint what kind of energy it is and how to access it.

It was also said by the Maya that when an old holy man was dying, him and his apprentice or student would both put their hands on a crystal skull and as he died all of his knowledge would be passed directly into the student through the vibrations of the skull.

I also believe they are vibrational instruments. People of higher vibrations find it far easier to access the energy of the skulls and channel information from them. As for synchronicity, ascension and higher vibrations, these things are all connected to the skulls in this time, in my humble opinion of course. They can help us connect with the higher worlds, and can help us see where we are going and where we have come from.
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 12:36 PM
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Well we are mainly talking about the Maya here in reference to the skulls. Nearly all of their books were destroyed by the Spanish, except for the Popul Vuh which does actually speak of the skulls I believe.

You should have a read of the information in regards to Max and Sha Na Ra as those are genuinely ancient. They have not been proven to be anything but ancient and how ancient they really cannot say. The ones proven to be 'modern fakes' are the British Museum Skull, the Smithsonian Skull and the Paris Skull, as far as the more famous ones go.

posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 12:42 PM

Originally posted by sir_slide
reply to post by RisenAngel77

What's interesting is that Mitchell Hedges claimed that the Mayan priests would use the skull to also put spells on people and said that they could even will death through the skull. There is no doubt in my mind that crystal skulls contain some kind of energy, the only problem is precisely pinpoint what kind of energy it is and how to access it.

I also believe they are vibrational instruments. People of higher vibrations find it far easier to access the energy of the skulls and channel information from them. As for synchronicity, ascension and higher vibrations, these things are all connected to the skulls in this time, in my humble opinion of course. They can help us connect with the higher worlds, and can help us see where we are going and where we have come from.

That is pretty interesting, So basically i need to find a way to raise my vibration and I would be all set. I know there must be a reason that ive been finding so many information out there, and i come across the crystal skull legend, and my mom just happen to have a similar skull. perhaps your brother has been feeling some weird things lately with his?

man what a find. Thanks for posting this thread.

posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 12:47 PM
reply to post by sir_slide

Thank you for the info I will look into the two you mentioned.

posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 01:17 PM
Great thread and well put. Kudos to the OP. I've read a lot about the crystal skulls and I too share the opinion that there is a lot more to those then we know off. The controversy about subjects like that are normal, however doesn't make it less interesting and intriguing. A must read for all the members who want to learn more about the mystery and the ongoing debate on crystal skulls.

posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 04:57 PM
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a wonderful report indeed... so s&f.. but you did fail to mention their extraterrestrial connection! Psychics, and metaphysisists believe that the original 13 crystal skulls are linked to different extraterrestrial civilizations, and that each one can be accessed through different portals scattered around the world. each skull represents an energy/ carries knowledge of an et race. the mitchell hedges skull is believed to be linked to the pleiadian et's. i don't know if you knew this or not, but theirs a few really good books on crystal skulls that mention this. they are indeed mysterious, wonderful, amazing, and trying to get my hands on one!

posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 07:18 PM
reply to post by sir_slide

Great information!

Lots to read.

posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 07:45 PM
FANTASTIC!!! S&F op! I can never get tired of reading about the crystal skulls!

posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 08:32 PM
Well this is a crying shame.

Almost all of the Skulls are no longer available to view in thread.

posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 09:28 PM
Wow, what an awesome post OP. Very well put together. I must admit something about these skulls.

This is where it gets kinda weird for me.

From when I first learned of these skulls, I have always been drawn by them - completely contrary to my feeling about normal skulls, since I do not like skulls.

In a way I can't explain, every time I see one I want to touch it or be near it. Just seeing them in the image makes me feel this way. They give me the feeling as though I am supposed to know something about them, as if I am supposed to remember, but just looking at them gives me this impression.

I have never been close enough to do so, however, but someday I can only wish I can.

I do wonder what would happen if I did get the chance to touch one.

posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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Please give me a moment. Problem will be solved momentarily, mod maria stardust is helping me out with it. Cheers guys!

Originally posted by Char-Lee
I think the The Mitchell-Hedges Crystal Skull is the only real one, it is totaly different and wonderful.

Well they're all 'real' essentially, the only question is if they are 'modern fakes' or genuinely ancient artifacts. Max and Sha Na Ra have been proven to be truly ancient, although the findings seem a little confusing as the British Museum absolutely REFUSED to comment on their origins. One would assume that what they found during those tests baffled them. I believe that the Mitchell Hedges, Max and Sha Na Ra are all genuinely ancient, and much older than we currently believe, much older than the Mayans in my opinion.

All Fixed! Thanks for your patience people.

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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 09:59 PM
I think the The Mitchell-Hedges Crystal Skull is the only real one, it is totaly different and wonderful.

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