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Powers to evict rioters need extending, says minister

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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:21 AM
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Powers to evict rioters need extending, says minister


www.bbc.co.uk

Housing Minister Grant Shapps has told the BBC he wants to extend measures that allow councils to evict tenants found guilty of looting or violence.

Several local authorities have said they will seek to evict social tenants who are convicted of being involved in rioting across English cities.

Mr Shapps said councils had powers over those who caused trouble locally.

But he said he wanted to extend that to include those who travelled to take part in the violence.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:21 AM
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This is worrying, straight away we see people asking for rights to be taken away! What people do not realise is all the things that they are asking for, such as taking away benefits from those who rioted, throwing people out of houses who committed a crime, wont be here for only a few months or so, but they will be here for YEARS! Any other protest, such as the student protest of g20 protest, could see people loosing their benefits and being thrown out of their house, it will make it very risky to protest for anything with these threats looming over your head.
You may of noticed, the councils already have the power to throw people out, so why do the need to extend those powers? They say so that they can throw people out who travelled from different areas, well then why can't the council where they travel from throw them out??

This is not good at all, and people are asking for it and the news will push it. One, massive, facepalm.

www.bbc.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:37 AM
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Here we go:

Create the problem. Blame it on an identified group.

Cause a reaction: Fear, outrage fuelled by MSM.

Propose the desired control measure as a Solution: Increased State powers.


This is worrying indeed. And idiot people will lap it up.

And now we will create ghettos which will be ripe for being used again by TVTB (the vermin that be) to cause more violence and instigate more State/Police power and stripping of civil liberties.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:41 AM
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And there we have it. The puzzle of the (orchestrated?) rioting solved.
(More) Fascist state incoming. Just like everywhere else where there have been
false flag attacks. i.e. U.S., Norway. Freedom will soon be a distant memory,
all thanks to the criminal murdereing bastards who run the country and the world.
This is in preperation for the aftermath of the ''big something' that is on the way, IMO.
Remember, everything you hear from these government lap-dogs, take the polar
opposite to be a closer version of the truth, again IMO.
The zionist jews are up to their eyes in everything.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:45 AM
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To be honest.. It was pretty obvious that more control measures will be put in place after this.. And with the blessing of most of the uk citizens.. Was it All part of the masterplan?



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:49 AM
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This is what this whole situation has been orchestrated about. The olympics are coming up and the government wants to portray peaceful, quaint country in need of investment, but dripping with low paid workers well under our control.

Troublemakers have been pulled out of the woodwork and will be safely concealed by the time the games get under way and laws will be in place to truss up the public's right to protest or even say boo. Our police, whom we have all seen in action as PC Smellie so aptly demonstrated beating that little woman, will get even more violent towards any one legitimately protesting or simply being there.

The second thing that purely demonstrates how stupid our politicians are is that if you knee jerk and evict trouble makers you will simply end up creating illegal shanty towns being slowly set up because they have to live somewhere don't they? We all want that scenareo do we?

This has arisen because of no hope for many in this country. You can't flood it with so much immigration and then wonder why we have no jobs and our kids have not prospects. Its our kids who are the victims of these policies.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:52 AM
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Here we go.....police were ordered to stand down:




www.prisonplanet.com...

Precisely as we reported yesterday on the back of numerous eyewitness reports, it has now emerged that police were ordered to stand down and let London burn during the first few nights of rioting, an action that quickly led to a frightened public to demand troops on the streets, rubber bullets, water cannons and curfews.

On Tuesday we highlighted the “lackluster police response, with numerous reports from the public that police stood back and allowed looters to pillage both large department stores and private small businesses for hours on end.”

According to eyewitnesses to the initial riots in Tottenham, police were seen “standing back and allowing rioters to cause havoc,” a trend that continued during subsequent nights before Prime Minister David Cameron ordered 10,000 extra police officers to patrol London last night.

This has now been confirmed by sources within Scotland Yard who said police were ordered to “stand and observe” even as brazen acts of violent crime were committed against both people and private property, a directive which prevented them from arresting any of the troublemakers.

A d v e r t i s e m e n t
“They had apparently been told to try and contain any violence but not to haul away offenders who would instead be identified through video footage later,” reports the Daily Mail.

The decision to order police to stand down is being explained as a reaction to public outcry following the death of Ian Tomlinson, a newspaper seller who was killed by riot cops during the G20 summit in 2009.

However, as we have exhaustively documented, authorities routinely allow chaos to spiral out of control, even to the extent of hiring their own provocateurs, in order to manipulate the public into demanding greater police state measures that ultimately only serve to oppress legitimate dissent against the state.

The police’s inadequate response quickly led to calls for martial law, curfews and the use of water cannons on streets in England for the first time, a power that Prime Minister David Cameron has now authorized.

Britain’s most widely-read newspaper The Sun ran a poll today which found that two thirds of Brits support the use of rubber bullets to deal with rioters, while 33 per cent supported the use of live bullets.

“Curfews are backed by 82 per cent, using tear gas got 78 per cent support and Tasers 72 per cent,” states the report.



These verminous monsters turn everything on its head. They are using the excuse of Ian Tomlinson for not having curtailed the rioters...when in fact, the police officer who was responsible for Tomlinson's death criminally assaulted an innocent, peaceful passer by. The message, though, is this - "any protest you make will be used against you."



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:52 AM
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It scares me, if this goes through you will be constantly threatened by the state to comply or loose your house.

Also, its double speak, they have been saying that something needs to be done to make sure this culture, who wanted to riot and loot, does not occur again and we must prevent it.

So, make them homeless? So that they're constantly on the street? This will just increase muggings, stabbings, burglary's, and what not. Not only is this a stamp on our freedom, its also risking the rest of the public. Crime will just sky rocket.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:53 AM
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Those who would call for safety, ask freedom to become eliminated.

It is coming down to, what you want? You want the guise of security at the expense of all your freedom of thought?

Or are you better off living in a not so very much secure area, and having freedom, at least.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by Lynda101
This is what this whole situation has been orchestrated about. The olympics are coming up and the government wants to portray peaceful, quaint country in need of investment, but dripping with low paid workers well under our control.

Troublemakers have been pulled out of the woodwork and will be safely concealed by the time the games get under way and laws will be in place to truss up the public's right to protest or even say boo. Our police, whom we have all seen in action as PC Smellie so aptly demonstrated beating that little woman, will get even more violent towards any one legitimately protesting or simply being there.

The second thing that purely demonstrates how stupid our politicians are is that if you knee jerk and evict trouble makers you will simply end up creating illegal shanty towns being slowly set up because they have to live somewhere don't they? We all want that scenareo do we?

This has arisen because of no hope for many in this country. You can't flood it with so much immigration and then wonder why we have no jobs and our kids have not prospects. Its our kids who are the victims of these policies.


It's all beien carefully planned and orchestrated...and it is much bigger even than 2012. This is the Zionist Nazi World Order plan being followed and succeeding.

Here in UK things might not get too bad until after the Olympics - we have to keep up the farce that we are a democracy. However, once the Olympics are over (note that the 2012 symbol says 'Zion') we will be toast. Dictatorship of an enslaved population through martial law.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by Trolloks
It scares me, if this goes through you will be constantly threatened by the state to comply or loose your house.

Also, its double speak, they have been saying that something needs to be done to make sure this culture, who wanted to riot and loot, does not occur again and we must prevent it.

So, make them homeless? So that they're constantly on the street? This will just increase muggings, stabbings, burglary's, and what not. Not only is this a stamp on our freedom, its also risking the rest of the public. Crime will just sky rocket.


Thanks for that. So few people take seriously the fact that they always use doublespeak, hence even those who know about it persist in being duped.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 07:10 AM
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Where once we were described as Lions led by donkeys, it seems we have become Sheep, led by rsoles.
Line 2



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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Yup, beginning to think it was an experiment. A way of analyzing social and media reaction, have you noticed how almost everyone is now siding with the police and authorities.

Now just watch as new legislation slides its way under our doors and starts coiling around us. Let me guess, new powers for police, new stop and search procedures, possibly new weapons and tactics.

People will lap this up.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 07:37 AM
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Here it is.

If you do not want to be evicted from your home then dont loot, set fire to peoples property or steal their stuff.

In other words DONT BREAK THE FRICKEN LAW!!!

Its that simple!

If you dont get that then continue in your moronic, tin foil hat paranoia.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 07:40 AM
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Ok explain to me how having homeless criminals will help society.

Cheers.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 07:47 AM
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Just goes to show what people know, really. Here you are all crying about this being "planned" etc to get "more power", but they already had the power! These powers were brought in under Labour during Gordon Browns tenure.

And I don't see a problem with it. We're not taking away rights, we're taking away privelidges, a totally different thing. No one has the right to a home paid for by the state, or to have their bills paid by the state, or to have spending money for new gadgets provided by the state. These are supposed to be safety nets that have been abused by the underclass of workshy cretins for far too long.

No one has the right to smash up private property and steal what they like, assault members of the public and police or just generally cause mayhem, then expect to have their housing, bills and food paid for by the very state they blame their problems on!

If anything, it's you lot being hoodwinked into thinking you actually entitled to have someone else pay for your life! Personally, I think this is finally going to be a catcylst for sorting out the shower of crap that is our welfare state and about bloody time too! I don't think you will find many people against this as it has been a hot topic for quite some time.

It's about time these idiots, who point blank refuse to work and expect the state to support them, got off their arses and bettered themselves. I'm sick of forking out around 40% of my earnings to the state so it can support an army of cretins who just don't want to work.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by mr-lizard
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Ok explain to me how having homeless criminals will help society.

Cheers.


Simple

I am the benefactor of such a forced eviction.

My area used to be full of drugs, crime, murders etc. It was a ghetto of the feckless.. The council moved yhe worst offenders away from each other, splitting up the cliques and stopped them feeding off each others feral behaviour.

My areas tower blocks were then demolished. There was nine in all. A failed social experiment from the 60's.

Now the area has become a mix of private owned and housing association housing where high standards in behaviour are maintained by the residence in conjunction with police. If people play up we get them evicted.

Zero tollerence works.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 07:53 AM
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All sorts of draconian ideas being thrown around in the commons debate, from more cctv, governments right to remove videos from you tube and controlling social media.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by stumason
These are supposed to be safety nets that have been abused by the underclass of workshy cretins for far too long.


The poor always ruin everything good, don't they?



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
All sorts of draconian ideas being thrown around in the commons debate, from more cctv, governments right to remove videos from you tube and controlling social media.


Although I have concerns about controling social media and privacy, I can also see that in the wrong hands, as has been shown over the last few days, that it can be a tool for criminality on a level never seen before.

It proves that certain elements cannot use these media based tools responsably, but rather use them as a tool for criminal or even bullying behaviour.

Maybe SOME control might not be a bad thing.

Its about time that people learnt that their words and actions have consequences, and that THEY are responsable for them and no-one else!




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