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Hey getready, I understand the point you are making,
so why are we up in arms about a story of a bear, that is likely not even completely true?
Humans have choices, can defend themselves with guns, can get in a car and leave, can use rational and complex thinking, make choices, or call for help.
DUDE! I did reply to you! I chose to do it via u2u because you are clearly wanting a poo-throwing competition.
I asked you in the u2u to enlighten us. You and other posters on here seem to get all vicious at Westerners who think Chinese are in some ways barbaric....yet you NEVER offer evidence to the contrary.
So you're married to a Chinese lady. Like I wrote to you earlier (and YOU refused to respond), I'm sure she's a lovely person. And she had your baby. But YOU ALL LIVE IN ENGLAND.Why is that?
If China is such an exemplary and fantastic place, why don't you live THERE?
Was your wife born and raised there? Or is she an English citizen born of Asian people who left?
Does she go to buy bear bile at all the shops in the high streets? No? Why not?
if so, WHY? Good deities above, it's utterly barbaric.
If the Chinese are such techno-whizzes, and can make things so cheaply, why don't they make a synthetic "bear bile" equivalent and leave these innocent creatures alone?
It's fine if you want to defend that not ALL Chinese people behave in the way that some do -- and --as I stated clearly in my u2u -- ALL societies in the "civilized" world are sick to some extent. The entire industrial/tech WORLD is sick. Including, and certainly not the least: the USA and England.
So stop shouting at people and EDUCATE them about why Chinese/China's society are misunderstood.
This forum calls for civility and decorum. Getting on here and calling people ignorant and bashing them is NOT debating.
If you have valid reasons to discredit the revulsion that people feel at this story, then by all means, tell us why we should change our minds.
Now I challenge you to educate, inform, and diffuse the "ignorance" that you claim people who feel sickened by Chinese practices such as this one feel here. But don't expect ME at least, to say, "Oh, okay. It's okay to torture bears, then. Carry on. As you were."
It is SICK. And I quote the same as the poster many pages ago:
We get it. Your married to a Chinese person. You fathered a child with her. She's an animal lover. Great. That's fanfreakingtastic. Now -- what is she -- and the POPULACE of China doing to STOP THIS SICK BEHAVIOR? Anything?
And btw, China is NOT going to be the "next superpower." ... do some research. ... and educate yourself.
I fully relate to wanting to defend the decent members of ANY culture. In fact, I have worked with undocumented Spanish-speaking people living here in the US for many years. MOST of them are kind, loving, hardworking, and want only to make their children's lives better -- or to earn enough money to put the roof on their house. They are not here to steal jobs, run drugs, or practice tax evasion. So I defend them when I hear people bashing all "Mexicans". I have spent time there, as well. I have become involved with their families, their worries, their cares, their fears. They are people. Most of them are loving and simple people. SOME OF THEM are psychos.
Does that mean the Mexican society is healthy? NO IT DOES NOT.
Try to read what people are saying without just repeating the same refrain over and over. It's tiresome.
If people are sickened by this story, by the photos, are brought to tears, are made angry and feel the need to lash out at this brutal inhumane and superstitious barbarism, THAT IS A GOOD THING. It is NORMAL for people to feel nauseated, depressed, sickened, sad, and angry about this type of brutality
We are repulsed by things which are WRONG. Being desensitized happens to people when they are immersed in something for so long that they become inured to its evil. It doesn't make evil any less evil.
Let your wife read for herself...or are you her master? Does she have to have permission to read things? Are censoring her information sources?
If she's such an animal lover, she too will be revolted by this news. And maybe just enough that she can go and raise some hell about it in her own language in her native country.
You can't protect her and/or your daughter forever. If the shadow of SOME Chinese practices is following them
just like so many people "hate" Americans, they are going to have to learn how to combat it
Why the hell does that mean she has to do something about it. Like i said earlier, many people around the world might not like stuff, but they don't do anything about it, does that make them evil?
Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.
Martin Luther King Jr.
That's why she should say something. That's what most of the upset people on this thread are saying. Can you not understand that?
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by Jay-morris
The star is from me.
Thanks for your calm response.
It's still inexcusable. Just as we have to go to Afghanistan because terrorists will use it to their advantage, we must also condemn china for their activities. By ignoring it it will not go away.
Originally posted by WiZKiD111
I guess consciousness shifts are taking place.