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Originally posted by Explanation
The Universe is unlimited what would compell them to search our area of the galaxy? Out of trillions of stars. If Life is abundant in the Universe what would make us so special that they would need come visit us. How would they know where to search?
Originally posted by Explanation
I just do not believe in the age of Wikileaks, Anon, they have been able to leak so much, but no one has found anything about something History changing. Isn't that what these hackers and leakers are after. They want to humiliate the government, they want the people to know everything...
I'm pretty sure NASA knows nothing about aliens.
There no legit photos of Aliens or their space craft. All I see is a bunch of misidentified human aircraft. Now there is just new "fad" of hearing rumbling and that somehow has something to do with aliens.
Lets be honest Logic at the moment is the only proof anyone has of Aliens.
I don't know how people come to the conclusion that they are our space brothers..Or that they are perfectly harmless. And they will just "Enlighten Us, Or share their Spiritual Knowledge."
I'll be honest I do believe in God I also believe in Aliens. I do not believe God is a Alien. I know there are a UFO/ Alien Religions that believe that aliens made us, and that's their belief.
I only post that because it seems that skeptics are look upon as "Must be Religious." Like I said
I personally don't see the Atheist, (Alien Believers Atheist) argument, that God is not real but Magical/Psychic creatures are traveling through space walking through walls, and abducting people through their ceiling to perform medical experiments all the while having no other witnesses is somehow more believable then a god.
In my opinion you pretty much should believe in both. Its kinda of hypocritical to believe in the above but consider the other a "fairy tale".
Overall I believe there is generally a will to believe. People WANT TO BELIEVE BADLY.
For example a few topics here, I'm not going post a link to them because I do not want to call anyone out.
Someone would post a picture or share a sighting and it would be explain or debunked in the first few posts.. That's not want the OP wants to hear. That topic will go for 5-10-15 pages.
I see that people use the excuse skeptics are scared of aliens. No they are not. What is there to be scared of.
Most skeptics I know accept the fact that aliens are out there, there is just a disagreement on if they are actually visiting.
I think alot of people are seeing things they cannot explain. And coming to a very quick conclusion.
That has been happening for Centuries. Centuries ago people did not have much of a grasp of science, they saw things that may have looked like one thing, and they did not know what it was, but was would be completely explainable and common to us today.
All my opinion... Of course.edit on 10-8-2011 by Explanation because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jstanthrno1
To believe aliens are visiting Earth, you really have to open your mind.
The universe is millions of years old, its very possible that a civilization exsists that is millions of years older than life on Earth. Even with intelligence similar to humans, they could have technology that makes navigating the stars a reasonable possibility.
Modern man has only been around a few thousand years and we have the means to reach other planets in our solar system. Our computing technology doubles roughly every 18 months on average. Imagine what humans will be able to do in say, 100 years. Or imagine going back in time and trying to convince a cowboy that in 50 years a man will walk on the moon.
In the universe, anything is possible.
Originally posted by WhatAliens
Originally posted by 31Bravo
Why? Millions of different types of life flourishing on a planet that is less sophistically developed than them..
zzzzzzzzzzzz.... Life here has adapted to the environment... not magically pooffed into existence there...
Originally posted by EmVeeFF
reply to post by bsalert
This doesn't mean they are aliens, it just proves that people saw something they cannot explain.
There are ancient reports of dragons, this doesn't make them real.
Originally posted by Explanation
Like I said, I believe aliens exist, I just find it hard they would pick our tiny planet out of trillions, or more to visit.
Originally posted by madjetxe
What i am talking about is we are the aliens ,the so called aliens were here first we are the ones out of place not them.
Originally posted by OrchusGhule
reply to post by Droogie
Agreed. I just wish people would do a little bit of digging before putting so much stock into something so consequential.
I think the problem with the alien visitation question is belief itself. Belief has no scientific bearing. Its just like faith. It requires no evidence, no proof, nothing.
I like to look at facts, and I accept the facts as they are revealed to me, even if they go against what I want to believe. I want to believe aliens visit Earth, that they have been involved for millenia. It would explain so much. But as I said, belief is nothing compared to facts. We can all believe that aliens either are or are not visiting Earth. When and if this is confirmed or denied beyond any doubt, our beliefs will become meaningless and pale in light of the truth.
Here are the facts as I know them.
1. People around the world have been witnessing unexplained events in the skies and oceans for hundreds of years. These witnesses include pilots with decades of experience in the skies, they include people in charge of nuclear weapons, people who have spent thousands of hours in space above our planet, and they include individuals from all walks of life. When a pilot with 30 years in the air says walnut shaped craft flew around his aircraft for several minutes and then took off at impossible speeds, it is important for people like us to listen. When the supervisor of a nuclear missile facility states that he received a report from topside saying there was a disc shaped object floating directly above the facility, and then all of the missiles shut down, it is important for us to take notice and consider the possibilities. When governments release UFO files documenting numerous, unexplained sightings of immense objects, complete with diagrams, physical evidence, and eyewitness accounts, it is important for people like us to investigate. I could go on, but you get the idea. The bottom line being that there is, without any doubt, something unexplained going on in our skies and seas.
2. People around the world have also been hoaxing, faking, telling untruths, and tricking the gullable for centuries. Its nothing new, and will doubtless continue. It is important for people like us to remember this when reviewing evidence such as video, audio, and the like. Suspicion and skepticism are very healthy and positive traits to carry with you. A big red flag for me is that oldest of motivators of lies, which is profit. If a person has something to profit from making this or that claim, he/she is worthy of a great deal of suspicion. I use the example of Jaime Maussan and the MUFON investigators. They exposed one of his famous sightings as fake, and yet he continued to claim it was real because he gains a great deal from the widespread belief that aliens visit Earth. Zecharia Sitchin is another great example of this.
3. Debunking is unscientific. If it is your goal to debunk something, then you are already beyond any credibility because you have an agenda. The goal should be to seek the truth to its fullest extent, regardless of what one wants or does not want to be true. The same goes with proof. If you investigate with the intent of proving a theory or hypothesis, you also have an agenda, and your results will ultimately be tainted with that agenda. Abandon these approaches and you will see much better results. Many people often state that a hypothesis must be proven or denied. This is incorrect. A hypothesis must be TESTED. During testing the end result is entirely irrelevant.
So what is the lesson? Believe what you want, but NEVER allow your beliefs to cause you to dismiss evidence out of hand without investigation, and NEVER allow your beliefs to cause you to accept something that is easily dismissed through a thoughtful and complete investigation.
Thanks for reading.