Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Xcathdra
Someone posted that it was written much sooner than any of the writings you mention..
Wouldn't the starting point be to find out if that is true and WHEN the Protocols (if real) were written??
first, that was me
and i have more if interested. nice goal to have but don't plan on achieving it ... many have tried and many have died.
the originals (except 2 or 3 copies) are long lost through time, tribulation and rampant destruction.
here's some details in case you're interested ... source
*** beware, many will attack the source and it isn't one of my favs BUT, its historical references can be checked elsewhere (i already have) -- and atm, the Hertzl diaries have my interest
The word "Protocol" signifies a precis gummed on to the front of a document, a draft of a document, minutes of proceedings. In this instance, "Protocol" means minutes of the proceedings of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion. These Protocols give the substance of addresses delivered to the innermost circle of the Rulers of Zion. They reveal the converted plan of action of the Jewish Nation developed through the ages and edited by the Elders themselves up to date. Parts and summaries of the plan have been published from time to time during the centuries as the secrets of the Elders have leaked out. The claim of the Jews that the Protocols are forgeries is in itself an admission of their genuineness, for they NEVER ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THE FACTS corresponding to the THREATS which the Protocols contain, and, indeed, the correspondence between prophecy and fulfillment is too glaring to be set aside or obscured. This the Jews well know and therefore evade.
Captain A.H.M. Ramsay records in his classic, The Nameless War: "According to a letter published in "Plain English" (a weekly review published by the North British Publishing Co. and edited by the late Lord Alfred Douglas) on 3rd September, 1921:-
"The Learned Elders have been in existence for a much longer period than they have perhaps suspected. My friend, Mr. L. D. van Valckert, of Amsterdam, has recently sent me a letter containing two extracts from the Synagogue at Mulheim. The volume in which they are contained was lost at some period during the Napoleonic Wars, and has recently come into Mr. van Valckert's possession. It is written in German, and contains extracts of letters sent and received by the authorities of the Mulheim Synagogue. The first entry he sends me is of a letter received:-
16th June, 1647.
From O.C. (i.e. Oliver Cromwell), by Ebenezer Pratt.
"In return for financial support will advocate admission of Jews to England: This however impossible while Charles living.
Charles cannot be executed without trial, adequate grounds for which do not at present exist. Therefore advise that Charles be assassinated, but will have nothing to do with arrangements for procuring an assassin, though willing to help in his escape."
In reply was dispatched the following:-
12th July, 1647.
To O.C. by E. Pratt.
"Will grant financial aid as soon as Charles removed and Jews admitted. Assassination too dangerous. Charles shall be given opportunity to escape: His recapture will make trial and execution possible. The support will be liberal, but useless to discuss terms until trial commences."
Captain Ramsay quotes Isaac Disraeli, father of Benjamin, Earl of Beaconsfield, Britain's first Jewish Prime Minister, in his two volume "Life of Charles I", published in 1851: "The English Revolution under Charles I was unlike any preceding one . . . From that time and event we contemplate in our history the phases of revolution." There were many more to follow on similar lines, notably in France. In 1897 a further important clue to these mysterious happenings fell into Gentile hands in the shape of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
In that document we read this remarkable sentence: "Remember the French Revolution, the secrets of its preparation are well known to us for it was entirely the work of our hands." (See Protocol No. III, XIV).
In 1865 a certain Jewish Rabbi named Rzeichorn delivered a speech at Prague. It is a very accurate summary of many aspects of the Protocols which would come to light several decades later and was published eleven years later by Sir John Radcliff, who was assassinated shortly afterwards, giving testimony to the powers of the secret organisation of inner elite Jewry even then.
The presumption is strong that the Protocols were issued, or reissued, at the First Zionist Congress held at Basle in 1897 under the presidency of the Father of Modern Zionism, the late Theodore Herzl.
Now, XCathdra keeps harping on the Graves article and while it did go to print in August 1921,
that was only After Henry Fords' statement, made earlier in February 1921, was gaining attention, interest and steam throughout the country.
Graves 'debunking' was prose paid for and published by the same zionists (Time owners) and served merely as damage control, which is a behavior historically repeated by the zionists every time the 'word gets out' so to speak.
regarding the claimed forgery being derived from Dialogue in Hell ... quote from prvs wiki link wiki
Ironically, scholars have noted that Dialogue in Hell was itself a plagiarism, at least in part, of a novel by Eugene Sue, Les Mystères du Peuple (1849–1856)need more ??
here's a question for ya ... why is Hitler so vehemently portrayed as 'the jew killer' ?? when the reality IS ... he and his atrocities were nothing more than the actions of a punk in comparison to Stalin. Stalin (jew) and the Bolshevik regime committed the worst atrocities / genocide against the jews in all of history. Hitler just doesn't compare, except his actions were much more widely known than Stalin. A lot had changed between 1900 & 1940, but the atrocities of Stalin are schmoozed over like they never happened.
See, the propaganda here is ... Hitler was perceived Anglo-Saxon (although genealogy reports him a jewish descendant / moms side) while Stalin was a known zionist jew.
What better opposition than the two races ?? especially when the goal is division ?
much better effect on the populus as a whole rather than the truth that each period of genocide was orchestrated and committed by and against the jews, simultaneously.
The whole mess is akin to the high-jacked history of slavery in America.
oooops 
Might as well use Stormfront as a source. 
