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Originally posted by WoundedByHonesty
reply to post by kro32
I don't much care for RP, but he did the right thing in this case. There are several flaws in that bill, not the least of which being that it would criminalize some anime! I hate pedophiles as much as the next guy, but I don't want to be arrested for watching me some Evangelion....
Lol there was a thread earlier with some guy asking how to make a popular post so I thought I would show him how it's done Not hard when you understand the audience your addressing
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Originally posted by Tiger5
reply to post by kro32
Well must children too be part of free market thinking???? The man has gone too far now. It is easy to say "No" Even a parrot can be talk to say "No". We are beginning to see the Tea Partiers in all their glorious bankruptcy now!
Originally posted by poet1b
Ron Paul is just another lying crooked politician, and you people who refuse to see the truth are just desperate for some messiah.
It only makes sense to create a federal program to coordinate Amber alerts between states, because these people kidnapping children are going to cross state boundaries when ever it is convenient. This is one of the main purposes of the federal government, which is to deal with issues that cross state and federal boundaries.
As far as the U.S. Constitution goes, how did you people ever pass 8th grade, where you were supposed to pass a test on the constitution. The U.S. federal government clearly has a role in looking after the welfare of the people.
Preamble of the U.S. constitution laying out the purpose of the U.S. Federal Government.
constitutionus.com...
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
A nation wide Amber alert system clearly falls under domestic tranquility, common defense, and promotion of general welfare. This is exactly what the U.S. federal government is supposed to do, and that Ron Paul doesn't know this, shows he is incompetent, and shouldn't even be in congress.
And by the way, lets not forget the Ninth Amendment.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
People like Ron Paul want to ignore the ninth amendment, and pretend that the U.S. fed gov does not have the right to protect the liberty of the people, because of enumeration of the constitution. In other words, Ron Paul wants to claim corporations have the right to deny people their rights.
Ron Paul is just another student of the Mises school of communism, looking to sell the U.S. to the ICs, and strip the people of their rights, not only to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, but to possession of wealth and property as well.
edit on 11-8-2011 by poet1b because: forgot to add link to U.S. Constitution.
Originally posted by poet1b
Ron Paul is just another lying crooked politician, and you people who refuse to see the truth are just desperate for some messiah.
It only makes sense to create a federal program to coordinate Amber alerts between states, because these people kidnapping children are going to cross state boundaries when ever it is convenient. This is one of the main purposes of the federal government, which is to deal with issues that cross state and federal boundaries.
As far as the U.S. Constitution goes, how did you people ever pass 8th grade, where you were supposed to pass a test on the constitution. The U.S. federal government clearly has a role in looking after the welfare of the people.
Preamble of the U.S. constitution laying out the purpose of the U.S. Federal Government.
constitutionus.com...
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
A nation wide Amber alert system clearly falls under domestic tranquility, common defense, and promotion of general welfare. This is exactly what the U.S. federal government is supposed to do, and that Ron Paul doesn't know this, shows he is incompetent, and shouldn't even be in congress.
And by the way, lets not forget the Ninth Amendment.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
People like Ron Paul want to ignore the ninth amendment, and pretend that the U.S. fed gov does not have the right to protect the liberty of the people, because of enumeration of the constitution. In other words, Ron Paul wants to claim corporations have the right to deny people their rights.
Ron Paul is just another student of the Mises school of communism, looking to sell the U.S. to the ICs, and strip the people of their rights, not only to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, but to possession of wealth and property as well.
edit on 11-8-2011 by poet1b because: forgot to add link to U.S. Constitution.
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by hawkiye
Have you bothered to look into how effective the cooperation between the states over Amber Alerts has been? Or did you just blindly defend RP?
I have read articles that such a federal coordination system is needed. More importantly, if that had been Ron Paul's reason for voting against this bill, then it might be a decent argument, but RPs reasoning is the same Mises line of communist BS.
The U.S.fed gov clearly has responsibilities in these areas, to deny such is just pure ignorance.
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by hawkiye
Have you bothered to look into how effective the cooperation between the states over Amber Alerts has been? Or did you just blindly defend RP?
I have read articles that such a federal coordination system is needed. More importantly, if that had been Ron Paul's reason for voting against this bill, then it might be a decent argument, but RPs reasoning is the same Mises line of communist BS.
The U.S.fed gov clearly has responsibilities in these areas, to deny such is just pure ignorance.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
I concur and would like to add this: This thread is just an example of nitpicking when the OP doesn't have the facts. Or is highly misunderstanding the original article.