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Is NJ govenor Mcgreevey a gay mole?

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posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 04:29 AM
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As Gov Mcgreevey ran, and was elected as a straight man....when he signed New Jerseys law for civil unions into effect, he had already had his alledged gay affair....he knew then he was gay, but came across to constituants at the time he signed the law into effect as a concerned, open minded straight.

This idea suggests that he could have been secretly imposing a gay adgenda as a secret gay person in government....

Now, only 2 months after he makes this legislation into law, he sudenly comes out of the closet?

COULD he have secretly been trying to institute his secret gay adgenda?
(obviously not the first secret gay adgenda he's had)
Couldnt this be seen as a conflict of interest?

Would he have had as much support for this legislation if it was known he was gay BEFORE he signed it into law?




posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 04:32 AM
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Before I go there I would like to know the nature of the legislation.

BTW, for anyone that want, or cares, to know, Caz was alluding to this "mole" reference: "a spy (as a double agent) who establishes a cover long before beginning espionage."

Posting this and then logging off, seems like a point grab to me. Should be trashed.

[edit on 18-8-2004 by intrepid]



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 05:43 AM
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I havent logged off at any point since i posted this, and i see you are my first actual responce out of 8 reads so far....why would asking my 3 questions and awaiting a responce be point grabbing?
obviously if i formulated those questions, then i must have this opinion, and i stated it? I see you offered no responce to my questions, just a declaration i was point grabbing....who seems to be grabbing...did you offer your views on this topic other than a critique of me?

Yes i meant as a SPY, but didnt think that that term was as accurate as a mole.



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 06:00 AM
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intrepid isn't point grabbing, he isn't a point whore.

Now back to the topic...

So what? he was probably keep it a secret so it didn't effect his public image. Maybe he was worried that he wouldn't get elected if he was gay, there is nothing wrong with that.
"Gay mole"?? your making it sound like he is a terrorist or something. How can he be a spy or have a hidden agenda? is he trying to turn the whole of America gay or something??



COULD he have secretly been trying to institute his secret gay adgenda?


LOL
your making him out be a terrorist again
Can i ask a personal question?? (hope you don't mind) but what is your view of homosexuality??


I don't see a problem at all here, im a straighy guy and i think its good gay people are getting more public jobs



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 06:53 AM
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I have no problem with the man being gay...but I DO have a problem with him hiring a "Friend" as the head of Terrorism for New Jersey on a 100G plus salary who doesnt know a damn thing about terrorism....just because he has sex with the dude...not cool...not safe...



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 07:02 AM
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So what?
Id agree if he had announced his orientation before the election, but to masquerade as something he wasnt raises my attention...who cares if he's gay, just dont LIE about in order to protect your election chances....what else will this politician lie about if he's not being honest about himself to start with?

I dont care that he had an affair, or with whom.

No he's not a terrorist, but at the minimun a lying, nepotistic official for then alledgedly giving his lover a job that someone more qualified should have gotten, and thus his constituants were paying his lover a salary out of the state budget....Louie Freeh, from homeland security, had said he'd have taken the position FOR FREE back when it was open. Yet lover boy gets the position...with far less qualifications that Freeh.

Soo we have a politician masquerading himself as str8 to as you say "protect his election chances", (good guess) then he signs a civil union law into effect, and promotes his allegedly gay lover (Cipel is denying he's gay, but mearly sexually harrassed by the govenor) to a payed position in government. Then 2 months after this stuff goes down, he comes out of the closet?

If he thought he couldnt get elected as an openly gay official, is it possible he thought that he couldnt get this legislation passed as well then?
What better way to get this done then by thru deception...present a false front and then exercise his power once gained without concern.

No secret gay agenda? hmm mabey not, but it COULD appear this way eh?

I wont clutter/distract this thread by posting my views on gays, mearly run a ATS search with my name and gay rights or mariage...i know youll come up with tons of posts by me...and you can see for yourself.



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 07:34 AM
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Now all the religious "hate the gays cause my forgiving loving religion says it's wrong" nuts will come out of the wood work acting as if they have more reason to spew their hate.....



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 08:49 AM
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There's be no need for a gay "mole" in the Democratic Party. It's inclusive.

I'd say if the Gay Illuminati
were to engineer a mole anywhere it would be as Governor of a large state with a huge gay population, and they'd make him really butch and conservative sounding, possibly even have him make fun of "girly men" as he plays grab ass with the female staff so that one day he could be invited to deliver the keynote at the Republican National Convention where he comes on stage brings it home...

I'm da King of da Gayz! I fooled you all!



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 09:14 AM
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Very amusing RANT...LMAO.

To Lady V,
Please dont confuse me with a bible thumper.
This is a conspiracy website isnt it?
Why is it so hard to immagine a "gay illuminati" as RANT has called this idea?
You dont think gays can be nepotistic liars like anyone else? They dont keep or have secret plans?
I dont put it past any human politician to try these tricks, and with the big $$$ driving politics....gays are no less suseptable to corruption than str8's.
Im mearly looking at a timeline of events, and extraploating motive here.
How long has Mcgreevey been a politician, how long has he KNOWN he was gay? what about his 2 wives? you dont think he knew he was gay during ANY of the time he spent married to them?
This is especially true IF you follow the "you are born gay" theory.
He had to have known the whole time.
If he did, why not secretly support the gay adgendas while masquerading as a str8 guy? Makes you look good to constituants AND hides intentions.

not all republican politicians are str8
Jon Clifton Hinson (1942-1995) Born in Mississippi, March 16, 1942. Republican. U.S. Representative from Mississippi 4th District, 1979-81. Gay.

try this
www.cnn.com...

while i do find way more democratic gay politicians, i dont think party has anything to do with this case, id ask the same questions if he were republican or independant. Who cares what his affiliation is....
all i ask is if this "gay illuminati" idea COULD BE true.
(Thanks for coining that term RANT.)



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 10:09 AM
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Gay mole???

Oh, don't mind me honey! I'm just going to sit here and dig in the dirt for some big luscious grubs. Oh, ya I WILL go there!



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 11:08 AM
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I have no problem with the man being gay...but I DO have a problem with him hiring a "Friend" as the head of Terrorism for New Jersey on a 100G plus salary who doesnt know a damn thing about terrorism....just because he has sex with the dude...not cool...not safe...


That would be a valid concern...of course, the same thing happens with men and women all the time too... How many women have you seen, given high paying, but do nothing jobs, as basically payroll mistresses...???

Not to worry though...even terrorists don't go to Jersey!
(or if they do, they'll never get to where they want to go! --- those who've driven there, know what I mean)...



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
Not to worry though...even terrorists don't go to Jersey!
(or if they do, they'll never get to where they want to go! --- those who've driven there, know what I mean)...


What I want to know is why you have to pay tolls to escape from NJ, but it is always free to drive in?



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Jonna
Gay mole???

Oh, don't mind me honey! I'm just going to sit here and dig in the dirt for some big luscious grubs. Oh, ya I WILL go there!


Don't sleep on this folks, that is some funny shizzznat!


I think Arnold is closet, as are more than a few Republicans, who go that route via self loathing. You can search for all of Colonel's threads on "GOP Congressman found trolling for sex in an area know for gay prostitution".
I'm actually relieved when one is busted for a HETROSEXUAL affair!
But back to the Govenator....what's that line from "Scarface".....you've got a look in your eye like you haven't been F***ked in a long tine".

Laura Bush & Mrs. Shwartzenegger have that same look......ever see both couples kiss in public? Th Butch boys act like the Mrs is using dookie flavored lipstick!!

[edit on 18-8-2004 by Bout Time]



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 04:20 PM
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It's fairly obvious that if he had let people know he was gay before being elected, he wouldn't have been elected. As to him having a "secret" agenda, as I asked before, what legislation did he pass that could be considered as such?



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 04:54 PM
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CazMedia, I am shocked!! Are you, the one who demands proof from everybody, making a baseless allegation without "facts"? Are you saying that this man fooled the public into believing he was a qualified human being, but was in reality GAY? I can't believe the public was so blind. Who knows how many other politicians could be in power RIGHT NOW that are actually gay moles? Truly frightening. Who knows what kind of terrible things they may be plotting? They may slowly be infesting our government until one day, their queen, Cher, takes control of the country. Or, could it also be possible that he is a man who has been living with confusion about his sexuality and finally made the decision to choose happiness over living a lie, like he said? CazMedia, you being the educated individual you are, should be aware that it is not that uncommon for a man to change his sexuality mid-life, even though he may have had some inclination toward it previously, they often supress it until they reach a point where they realize they don't have a lot of time left to enjoy life (mid-life crisis), and they decide to follow their desires. Unfortunately, they have often had children by that time and I feel sorry for them. But as for your allegation, let's see the proof or "facts" you so often demand of us, that this man planned this and is a "gay mole". You have to be joking.



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 05:21 PM
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CazMedia's point is simplistic, but it is a valid topic of discussion. McGeevey might have been masquerading as a straight man for the gay agenda, but from what I can gather nearly everything about his administration was corrupt. This guy is a sick puppy who exploits everyone and anything in his path. Dragging his new Portuguese wife to the podium to smile like a puppet while he regaled the public with his perversions is a perfect example.

McGreevey is perfect example of the kind of world the Democrats would like to preside over in America. They should run him for President. He makes Clinton look like a saint.



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 05:45 PM
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GradyPhilpott,

I agree that his administration was corrupt, and it's a good thing he stepped down, but not because he is gay. You and I may view it as a perversion, and it grosses us out, but they are still human beings and this is America, where we are supposed to be free. And what exactly is the "gay agenda"? It seems to me they just want to be viewed as equal. It's almost seems like a similar struggle that the blacks had to endure, just not on such a large scale, but equality is equality. As for the partisan comment, it is obvious you are not a Democrat, but I don't think this should be a partisan issue.

[edit on 18-8-2004 by 27jd]



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 11:10 PM
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Wow, and the black govenors are really "Black Moles". And women are really "Women Moles" and Jews are really "Jewish Moles" and Hispanics are really "Hispanic Moles". I swear, just because he is gay doesn't mean he is a evil demon of satan planning on making the planet gay. All he did in office was try to make gays equal. He wasn't trying to give gays special treatment, special rules, just make them equal.



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 11:33 PM
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It seems to me all these homophobic bible-thumpers are ACTUALLY insulting their god. A persons sexual preference is usually a product of their physiology, so are they saying god has screwed up? Are they questioning and judging his creations? Or do they believe that one night during some young man's life Satan creeps into his room while he's asleep and kisses him on the cheek, and he wakes up strangely attracted to other men? I'm sure it's not just an open defiance of religious values, I can't imagine one person thinking "gee, these religious fanatics really piss me off, I think I'll have sex with other men, that'll show em", let alone millions of people.



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 11:53 PM
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I am here to say that the practice of homosexuality is a perversion and a crime against society. I do not advocate the abuse of anyone based on attractions beyond their control. I am sometimes tempted to blow the head off some knucklehead with his baseball cap turned backward and his car stereo vibrating my car and everything in it. Until I actually act on that impulse everything is okay. When I actually ventilate his brain-housing group, there is a problem.

The gay agenda (and it is not the gay's alone) is to tear down society as you and I know it and rebuild it to their specifications. How do I know this? I have been schooled in their tactics and have been tutored in their philosophy. I have been a mole, albeit inadvertantly and in the process of my education.

You'd be surprised what you can learn when you let people make assumptions about who you are and keep your opinions to yourself. When you are trusted, people will volunteer everything.

[edit on 04/8/18 by GradyPhilpott]

[edit on 04/8/19 by GradyPhilpott]



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