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Bad or Good ; How / When did YOU choose which side youre going to be on for eternity

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posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 09:16 AM
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the underlying principle here is that one should respect all lifeforms because they are our own.

me, im the type to escort tiny ants that stray away and get lost from the others.

is it good? maybe, i didnt step on it.

is it bad? maybe, who knows the ant was supposed to be there, and possibly be there to be stepped on.

is it good or bad?

it is none

none but the way it is




 
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posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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I do not believe or even relate to this good/bad paradigm. I have never understood it. All there is in the world is order and chaos and the conflict create between each. The natural order of the universe is chaos and it seeks to move towards order, but the infusion of energy into any situation adds to the chaos.

Nothing good or bad about any of that.. just opinions and desires.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by Ben81
If you repent and you say you are deeply sorry for what you did you have learn from it then God can forgive you indeed always depend on what you did


...only the person i've harmed can forgive me... if i kill someone, forgiveness is impossible... simple...



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by Wyn Hawks

Originally posted by Ben81
If you repent and you say you are deeply sorry for what you did you have learn from it then God can forgive you indeed always depend on what you did


...only the person i've harmed can forgive me... if i kill someone, forgiveness is impossible... simple...


I agree

Many say that God can forgive everything to everyone
i dont believe that



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 01:55 AM
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If God does exist, how do you know to what extent He is willing to forgive or not? After all, His decision to give us Free Will must make Him somewhat complicit in the murder in the first place. Think about it critically.

Also, why does killing another Human seem so much worse than killing a fly? Aren't they both God's creations and wouldn't He be upset about the death of either?
edit on 11/8/2011 by Dark Ghost because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 02:59 AM
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Originally posted by TXRabbit
Aren't both GOOD and BAD simply a matter of perception?

Isn't one person's GOOD another's BAD?

If someone consciously says "I'm going to be BAD", doesn't it then, in their eyes, become their "GOOD"?



This is SUCH an INTERESTING philosophic question.

Yes, in essence i think there is no such thing as "good" or "bad" and basically you would be free to do whatever you like.

BUT: This is what makes humans different, that we can develop a sense of what is "good" or what is "bad"...out of ourselves.

By realizing that things like hurting animals etc. is "bad" you are actually spiritually and mentally growing.

Is there something like an universal law like moral? I don't know. But what i know is that there must be some universal law of "harmony" and respect - since without harmony/respect each and everyone would kill each other, life on a planet would terminate each other, right? Hardly anything in the sense of nature.

From that point of view, it makes sense to say having respect for other people/animals etc. is "Good" even if there would not be such an universal "law" given by a god etc. - it would simply be the right thing to do because being destructive can hardly be beneficial.

And maybe being able to come to such a decision and to develop a sense of Good/Bad is really what makes us human!
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 03:06 AM
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Originally posted by rogerstigers
I do not believe or even relate to this good/bad paradigm. I have never understood it. All there is in the world is order and chaos and the conflict create between each. The natural order of the universe is chaos and it seeks to move towards order, but the infusion of energy into any situation adds to the chaos.

Nothing good or bad about any of that.. just opinions and desires.


This is so wrong.

If "chaos" would dominate there would be no progression or evolution, species would not evolve let alone "intelligence" would evolve from micro-organisms.

If ANYTHING ultimately is dominating its in fact order - the tendency from an non orderly state to "higher" order. Order needs "chaos" to develop, of course.

Also..there is no "conflict" between order and chaos...as there is no conflict between eg. "hot and cold"...it's only specific aspects of one and the same thing.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:30 AM
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Many are able to get away with negative actions because the surrounding individuals are also getting away with negative actions - when a few positive individuals are in their presence, they descend like vultures, all the things that they cannot experience such as positive energy, innocence, empathy, imagination, and honesty are all ridiculed and even envied.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:20 AM
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Empathy...
teach your kids to pretend they are animals or bugs.
but add to the game.
a human came along and you arescared
the human would squash you or kill then.
it teaches them to see it from the other side.
empathy.
they should grow up to care for others more.

on TV serial killers start with next doors pet.
they kill them and feel nothing.
so they try more animals.
and work there way up to humans.
it does give them a buzz.
I think it is the beast in us.
there is a lot of things in a human
that are like a feline. yes!
just look at how some humans play with there pray.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:26 AM
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Bah His side, Her side... You Can keep it I am on my side. I will do whatever it takes to keep my family alive. If you see it as two dimensional then that is on you.. If a guy steals bred to feed his family.. He has sinned.. Yet if he doesn't feed his family he has Killed.. Your telling me either way he chooses Evil? Sorry but If there truly is a God or even A Side Then they are doing a crappy job at it.. At list with The darkside you know what you have to contend with... I will remain on my side. It is my beleif that we will all end up where we belong.. We Just have different road maps leading us there.. Some routes are dark some are scenic. Remember always to much time in the Sun will burn you.....Be well
Therian



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 07:00 AM
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I was a very hateful and negative child as my parents died at early age, and I was left to myself. I had an agreement with myself, a contract if you will, that I would never trust anyone, ever. I would fight for myself always, and never let anyone sway my judgement. It went "well" for almost 22 years, leaving me in a world full of trouble and hatred, and evil dark emotions.

My turning point came, when I met a 100% loving living person. Not because that person loved me or anyone else in particular, this person loved life 100%. I loved life 0%. I had this feeling like I was 90-95% evil if you will, feeling that if I continued on my path I would reach 100% soon, and that would then be the story of my life, for life. I decided that I would try and give good a chance, get the evil out and the good in, starting that day, 8 years ago.

I am now 100% good, fighting for the good and always trying to help others see what I saw that day. I also learned that every "tool" I was using from my evil toolbox, could be replaced by good tools instead. I was able to reach the same things and even further then I ever had with evil. As I said, I chose the good fight, I chose love and light, and I can never go back, even if I wanted to.



Nice Thread, thank you for encouraging me to write this post, I really appreciate it.

Joe



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:01 PM
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I had a ongoing dream for about 3 nights in a row. I was 8.
In the dream a vampire king was after me and wanted me to be a vampire princess. Mostly I was running from him, but when I was with him I was under his spell and was convinced that the life of a vampire was for me cause flying sounded awesome. Also when he had me under his spell I felt deeply in love with him. At times others would help me escape and I was on the run again.
At the end of the series of dreams he had me and we went onto a roof top where he was to take me just befor the sun rise to his kingdome, I guess, and make me a vampire.
Just befor the sun started to rise my mom came up on the roof. she said "you don't want to be a vampire, you want to be a fairy. fairies can fly day and night and they have good magic." she also described that living forever was not such a great option.
I climed down and left the roof with my mom as the sun rose, then I woke up.
I now see that dream as a choice between a path of light and a path of darkness, my mom saved me!



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by BananaFarmer
I had a ongoing dream for about 3 nights in a row. I was 8.
In the dream a vampire king was after me and wanted me to be a vampire princess. Mostly I was running from him, but when I was with him I was under his spell and was convinced that the life of a vampire was for me cause flying sounded awesome. Also when he had me under his spell I felt deeply in love with him. At times others would help me escape and I was on the run again.
At the end of the series of dreams he had me and we went onto a roof top where he was to take me just befor the sun rise to his kingdome, I guess, and make me a vampire.
Just befor the sun started to rise my mom came up on the roof. she said "you don't want to be a vampire, you want to be a fairy. fairies can fly day and night and they have good magic." she also described that living forever was not such a great option.
I climed down and left the roof with my mom as the sun rose, then I woke up.
I now see that dream as a choice between a path of light and a path of darkness, my mom saved me!


You have been glamoured by King Bill Compton
he wants his Sookie back


Did you watch trueBlood before sleeping ?



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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No. it was the early 90's, but I think Buffy the Vampire Slayer Movie was out, so that most likely created the dream.
, tee hee



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 11:17 AM
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Maybe I'm weird here, but when I was a kid, I hated having to kill any creature even the annoying ones such as flies and spiders. I still hate killing anything. I remember being younger and seeing all of the ants crawling in in between the spaces on the sidewalk near my house and strenuously tried to miss stepping on them and crying when i killed some. Now, that I'm older, I still go on by trying not to kill anything created by God without avoiding it. Eh, my two cents anyways.



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