England Riots! We The People Will Fight Back!

reply to post by BRITWARRIOR


did you see the violence in the eyes on the so-called "anti-rioter's"? they are passionate with their hearts in the right place, but fighting thugs with thugs is not the answer.

you cannot fight fire with fire, the fire will grow and consume everything in it's path, throwing fuel into a fire will blow up into the faces of the innocent, do you want to carry that with you for the rest of your life?

reply to post by plube


An excellent post Plube. You have hit it bang on the head. The whole system is corrupt. The govt are just a bunch of rich crooks. Far worse than the council estate people, who were out raiding the high streets for a few cheap TVs ect. The police? haha another bunch of crooks as we have seen, with the recent relevations about selling info to the papers, hacking ect ect. Not to mention how they get away with murder and go without any charges, for the crimes they commit on a regular basis. The entire system needs ripping down and to start again with a newer better idea. Thats the problem, what do we replace it with.

reply to post by BRITWARRIOR


Doubt it man.

reply to post by CAELENIUM


Hmm, that snapshot was based on 73 people in one court.

It can clearly be read if you look at the original image.

On that basis, your whole premise is flawed, especially as I don't buy into the whole "god" thing.

reply to post by truetrigger


Like your post. It also reminded me of this excellent little video:

reply to post by ckitch


I completely agree with all you are saying. I have been saying the same myself for years.

Originally posted by rigel4
reply to post by BRITWARRIOR

 

Personally i hope they do snare some yobs.
The ordinary people have rights too, not just the "Chav"
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What you just don't get is that these riots provide the perfect excuse for this criminal government to strip away more of those rights you refer to and establish a fascist police state.

UK has just been set up for the next step in establishing the NWO dictatorship. Doesn't it ring any alarm bells that kids have been reporting they were approached by some 'men' and offered money to start riots? The riots were clearly well orchestrated, who was behind that?

Be sure not to ask any uncomfortable questions. Just run in the direction pointed at by the Sun and the MSM.

Thank banks have just put a massive amount of debt on the British people. They are systematically stealing the wealth of the ordinary people, introducing a police state and removing the voice of the people ( do we have any vote on what happens in EU?) but hardly anybody said boo. The Brits just rolled over and accepted it, and now they're saying "OK, you're stripping us of all our money, now, please, strip us of our rights and freedoms as well. Please take them, here they are."

What the banks and the government are doing is a million times worse than what the rioters have done.

Wake up Britain.....but sadly I'm not holding my breath.

Originally posted by CherryV
reply to post by Sunlionspirit

 

Now you're doing it! Far be it for me to forbid anyone anything, but people need to chill out...people have a right to be angry and to vent that anger..but why do it at other posters on here??? That is what I am saying. Picking holes at other peoples posts instead of getting on with the topic seems to be the 'in thing'. IMO. Jumping to the bait all the time. Blah blah. de blah.
Peace right back at ya

I do have experience, I also live in the UK and stuck right in the middle of 3 riot zones here, but I am going to go orf and pick less touchy subjects to post on

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It seems people would rather fight amongs themselves than fight the goddamned bankers and gubberments and their quangos who are systematically destroying everything good about the country and reducing the people to serfdom.

You think you own your house? You don't, the City of London banksters and the Vatican does. That's why your deeds say you are the 'tenant'.

You think you own your car? You don't. The City of London Bantksters and the Vatican does. That's why you're only the 'registered keeper' and not the 'owner'

You think you own your body? You don't. Ownership of your body was handed over to the Vatican when your birth was registered.

You think you own your possessions? You don't, you own none of them. They were handed over to the Vatican too at birth.

You think you own your soul? You don't. Ownership of that too was handed over to the Vatican when you were baptised.

We have all been conned by the most evil, monstrous cabal you could imagine. When the time is right, and that's not far away, they will reclaim what is legally theirs, not yours, and leave you with nothing. How else could they impose the banksters' gambling debts on the ordinary people? Because they own every penny you earn and decide how much of that you will be allowed to use for yourself.

Since birth the value of your anticipated life's income tax has been sold as a bond. Your national security number is the bond number. It belongs to the Vatican too. You don't own it, they do and it's worth millions.

You think your vote is worth anything? It's not. All parties serve the same evil , parasitic cabal and the real decisions are made behind closed doors. Cameron is their front guy.

We are serfs. They have allowed a period of relative prosperity for the serfs, to distract people while they set up the evil, murderous machine of total control which they are now rolling in.

The private Bank of England stole the right to print the country's currency a few centuries ago. Since then they print money out of thin air and lend it to the government. THAT is why we pay income tax - to pay the interest on the loan to the PRIVATE, criminal banking cartel.

Please, please people turn off the TV and find out what is really going on here.

reply to post by BRITWARRIOR


Thanks for the clarification dude

reply to post by wcitizen


Here is couple of videos to confirm what you have written for others to see:
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by wcitizen

 

Here is couple of videos to confirm what you have written for others to see:
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Thanks, itsnowagain. Here they are embedded:

THE STORY OF YOUR ENSLAVEMENT

IT'S AN ILLUSION

Originally posted by wcitizen
reply to post by truetrigger

 

Like your post. It also reminded me of this excellent little video:

The video makes many factually incorrect claims.

The percentage of the population that begrudges the taxes they have to pay is small. Even smaller are the people who disagree with the existence of a government, even if they disagree with some of the items on which the tax revenue is spent.

Even those anarchists who pay taxes are not afraid merely of the IRS employees, they are afraid of the state machinery (including police, FBI, judges, prisons etc) that support the IRS and the Congress. I would estimate that the number of anarchists who consider taxes a "theft", but continue to pay them out of fear are an insignificant minority of the population.

Merry Christmas Rioters! Here is your Reward for all of your hard work.

Unmask the thugs! Looters will no longer be able to cover up, says PM as he also promises cash for the rioters' victims AND a crackdown on social media

-Cameron says Army could be called in if riots are repeated
- Police are handed powers to unmask the wild rioters
- Inquiry under way into how to clamp down on social media
- There'll be talks with ex-US police chief about tackling gangs
-Cameron shrugs off Labour's plea for police cuts U-turn
- Prime Minister: 'This is a time for our country to pull together'
-Labour leader Ed Miliband calls for full, independent inquiry
- Miliband: 'Why do so many people feel they have nothing to lose?'

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...

Better rethink your next riot...If only Joe Strummer were alive to see the results of a generation born and bred on the socialism that he so adored. Now you have the "Clampdown" that he so despised.

Originally posted by Observor

Originally posted by wcitizen
reply to post by truetrigger

 

Like your post. It also reminded me of this excellent little video:

The video makes many factually incorrect claims.

The percentage of the population that begrudges the taxes they have to pay is small. Even smaller are the people who disagree with the existence of a government, even if they disagree with some of the items on which the tax revenue is spent.

Even those anarchists who pay taxes are not afraid merely of the IRS employees, they are afraid of the state machinery (including police, FBI, judges, prisons etc) that support the IRS and the Congress. I would estimate that the number of anarchists who consider taxes a "theft", but continue to pay them out of fear are an insignificant minority of the population.

Most people believe their taxes go to help the country...which is inaccurate. The majority of tax regenue goes to pay off the loans made to the country by the private banking cartel - in your case the Fed Res.

Are there any statistics to back up your claim that people are happy to pay taxes? I'd be interested in your source for that information. At first glance that statement seems questionable to me. But people do believe that are obliged by law to pay taxes, so they pay them...but in fact, it isn't true. However TPTB do not want the masses to know that.

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reply to post by Observor


I somewhat agree with this, as many working tax payers will tell you. It isn't the amount that is the only problem it is what you get for your money. What people seem to not be able to understand is that the perceived poor get a lot, the rich obviously benefit, the ones that seem to get nothing are the majority of average workers paying it. The fact that we keep getting less and less and yet people, especially the perceived poor, get more and more, causes anger, anger that rightly or wrongly is directed at the grabbers. I agree that taxation is needed, but not spent how it is spent only for when a worker needs help to be told get to the bottom, you're NI and Tax Income contributions aren't worth a penny, the average British worker who gets laid off will be in line below "poor" and below immigrants who have just arrived for their share of the gold, below giving billions abroad, below spending on our armies to go in to countries that they have no business of being in! The worker thats funding it all is just scum to the government!

However, as I predicted years ago, the state won't allow these people who are so dependent on the state to be so careless and greedy for much longer. What has been announced is that many could face eviction from their council properties. Part of me thinks this could create more trouble, part of me thinks good long time coming for these lazy greedy b*stards! The problem, as I have been trying to tell my unemployable friends that I know, is that being in the state's pocket will eventually get you enslaved more than anyone else, as the state will start to control by fear of losing ponse money and homes for criminal activity. I agree with this in part, but where does it stop? Get a speeding fine, you're out! I think that long term unemployed people should be made to contribute far more than sitting on their arses all day playing PS3 and watching Sky, but going from one extreme to the other may not be the way forward.

We are definately looking at a country that will change no thanks to these riots, it's just a question of when and how far they go! I for one think they can go as far as they like, the general public will support it. For everyone on unemployed benefits and living in council properties, I think you are going to find yourselves in a whole load of # now with no public support. Part of me is glad, you people grabbed and grabbed and now it comes back on you, part of me thinks, them today, me tomorrow. What will happen to the average worker? We think its bad now, but what do they have planned for us?

These are turbulent times.

Originally posted by DerbyCityLights
Yeah yeah, vigilantism is bad, yadda yadda yadda. Personally, I feel this is the only way the UK will be able to get this under control. This is NOT a bad thing people! This is the People standing up for the People! This is the sense of brotherhood and community that is needed in the world. When bad people rear their ugly head, good people have to stand up and knock their ugly heads off with an aluminum bat!

Reminds me of the quote attributed to Edmund Burke "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing".

reply to post by stumason


I'm sorry but i don't agree.

news.sky.com...

news.sky.com...

These aren't ' cretins ' who can not spell GCSE let alone get an A.....

1 person accused has 3 A levels and 9 GCSE's at A+.....

" when the people lose everything and have nothing left to lose then they lose it "

NO Jobs
NO Prospects
NO Money

But it would seem some have education.... just no outlet for it

and as for the national debt.... yes there has been always a national debt....

but never in the history of mankind has there been so much money in circulation ,..... ( well apparent circulation as i've not seen much of it )

These are uncharted waters we are sailing on as a race the world over and there is only one possible outcome i can see.....

and they can stick that RFID where the sun don't shine......

Originally posted by wcitizen
Most people believe their taxes go to help the country...which is inaccurate. The majority of tax regenue goes to pay off the loans made to the country by the private banking cartel - in your case the Fed Res.

Well, if the taxes go to pay interest on money borrowed, the government services must have cost way more than the taxes paid. It won't be the Fed in my case, because I am not an American/resident of the USA.

Are there any statistics to back up your claim that people are happy to pay taxes? I'd be interested in your source for that information.

Being "happy" and not begrudging are not the same. Most people are not happy to pay for anything, like insurance, where they don't see a return immediately and sometimes not even that when the think the price is too high like Americans complaining about petrol prices.

Most people believe a government is necessary. Governance costs money and taxes are the source of revenue for the government. Anyone who wants a government in place, expects taxes to exist in one form or another. Most would prefer someone else to be taxed, but few believe taxes to be "theft".

I can't provide any statistics, but you could easily prove me wrong by providing statistics to the percentage of people who believe they see no need for a government.

But people do believe that are obliged by law to pay taxes, so they pay them...but in fact, it isn't true. However TPTB do not want the masses to know that.

Not sure if you are referring to a specific country. I do know that in the USA Federal Income Tax is not a legal obligation for US citizens living in the several states and I mentioned it myself on this forum more than once. However, citizens/residents and corporations are legally obligated to pay the other taxes. I don't know of any other country where there are "voluntary taxes" like the USA. Everywhere else taxes are a legal obligation.

reply to post by truetrigger


The vast majority of rioters were those who hardly went to school let alone got A levels, you're just picking up the exceptions that the media have picked up. As I have said, people who call these rioters and looters "poor" don't know these rioters and looters and the area and the lifestyles in which all these people live. To call these people poor devalues the term poor! This was greed for possessions and power by people, both in general and the exceptions, who don't know how good they have it and a vast majority who feel that they should be rewarded for simply breathing. Like so many, I've lived in these areas and grown up in them and excuses after excuses is all you ever hear from a community that feel that they should be rewarded for getting out of bed in the morning, which most of them still don't do! Those exceptions with education and a few in full time work are even worse, riot constructively and attack the system at its heart, but all these people did was act as scavengers! Greedy fools running behind the uneducated wild animals letting them do the work, like Rats gathering the scraps from the wild dogs kill. Not one of these fools have an excuse, there was no agenda other than to burn and steal, all for selfish gain. All should be thrown in prison without mercy.