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England Riots! We The People Will Fight Back!

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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:04 AM
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Originally posted by Zamini
By your reasoning and logic I can with full certainty say that the man you are criticizing has done a hundred times a better job at being a father than your father was. You'd be questioning authority if you had a decent father, nothing less.

Darcus Howe is a scumbag and known racist. According to his Wikipedia page he was a member of the Black Panthers, has campaigned specifically for black men to get prostate checks, has 7 children by 3 mothers and one of his sons is a convicted thief. Some father! The man can't even speak coherent English and is clearly filled with bile and hatred for white people.




posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:13 AM
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This is just stupid now. loads of people saying its a black and asian thing ..wake the F up man. and you know what people are buyign into it.

i get people blackberry messeging me saying lets get thes F'in Paki's or F'in niggaz/wogs - i WAS part of the EDL leeds firm. im mixed race - half english/jamaican

really pissing me off now and im starting to get engry towards the people saying this!

STOP WATCHING THE NEWS



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:14 AM
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Originally posted by milkyway12
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If the Majority of the country is not up in Riots , then using a weapon to support the change , is probably the worse thing you can do. Only use weapons when the government will not make a change in the face of majority odds that effect your freedoms.

Again , using weapons is due in a certain situation. However ... i think that time is coming near for a lot of the western world , especially the United States with our freakin constituion being completely ignored.

Super Congress my ass , that is 100% unconstitutional.
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I was given an African proverb this morning, ironically from an Asian guy:

"If a child is not initiated into the villiage then he will set it on fire just to feel its warmth"

However here in the UK people bend over backwards to "initiate" any who come and enjoy the mix of cultures and what they bring to us.

What we have here has been caused by those not wishing to fit in or assimilate, but live in ghettos of their own making, those that spent their years at school to busy dicking around than trying to learn then wonder why they cant get a job, those that have no intentions of working and live off entitlements and pop off more kids as a career move for more money.


We call them chavs


There is no excuse. Everyone has a level playing field if you are willing to work hard.



What makes me laugh is if they put the same effort and industry as they do making claims, criminality etc as they could have at school, then they would be out of "poverty" (laugh at that too) in no time!

We do things differently here than America and are on the most part more reserved by how we react to given circumstances and is a good reason why we have gun control.

If those ferals had guns there would have been a bloodbath on both sides.

Im glad we do not allow them nor need them which was proved by the public reaction over the last few days.

Now the government is crapping itself as they know that the people of this country do not need guns to get rid of them.

I feel sorry for America. It is indeed a country whose leaders are inept, unacountable and out of touch with the average joe, and I think that the average Joe is getting pissed off enough to start using those guns..

I hope not, but if I was religious I would be wondering why America is not mentioned in those end times bible prophecies!
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:16 AM
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Originally posted by JohnnyWarbucks
Multiculturalism has failed. Deport them from your country ASAP or face your downfall, it's that simple. Let them come visit via tourism but do not let them settle in your country to impose their savage lifestyle upon you. Good luck British brothers.


What has ''multiculturalism'' got to do with anything over the past few days ?

Most of the rioters are from one culture/subculture: the urban British lower socio-economic subculture.

Where are we going to deport British criminals to ? We can't exactly ship convicts off to Australia any more !


Of course, I think we all know the deeper, underlying reasons behind your comments...

All of this crazy talk reminds me of a joke which was made by the black British comedian Lenny Henry during the 1970s:

"Enoch Powell wants to give us £1,000 to go home. Suits me. It only costs me 50p to get to Dudley."


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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:17 AM
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Once again people are only blaming the criminatlity and not looking at the social breakdown that occurs when the economy goes bust and people become desparate....yes it is wrong that people loot...yes it is a shame when people turn on each other due to the working of the rich and wealthy while the poor and down trodden suffer.

Yes lets all go get these individuals whom are acting out in the only way they know how and people are everyday losing their homes.....their funding being cut left right and centre....health care being ripped apart at an alarming rate....policing budgets being cut over the top.

this is a symtom of the decease......the rich are happy with the rusults you can be sure as it will lead to more controlss being placed upon the people and people are just bowing down to what is being said.....people all over the world are rising up to the crisis and it is not just in the middle east.....it is all over....and Americans too i hope will rise up and stick up for their rights as there needs to be a global movement against the lousy one percent of the people whom actually hold about 90%of the worlds wealth and could not give a toss about the situations as they unfold....The only thing here that is a shame is the all these acts are being misdirected upon each other and not being focussed on the real perpetrators of crimes sgainst humanity.

Moral degeneration among people and the resulting loss of love and respect between them is shown as another of the signs of the end times. These also appear in the Bible:

And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another... And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. (Matthew, 24: 10-12)

does this not sound familiar to people.....it is not just happening in England it is happening all over....and now more and more controls will be set upon the people.

Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you! Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver are corroded, and their corrosion will be a witness against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have heaped up treasure in the last days. (James, 5: 1-3)

as you might be able to see things are written about these things and how it occurs....

I am not religious...but i do read texts from the past as they do reference the future in my opinion.....these things should not be shocking people they should be waking people up...as they try to rush these people through these kangaoo courts in absolutely wrong on so many levels.....Disgusting....so much for fair trials.

In the last four years there has been an average of 35,000 homes repocessed......now is that a good thing putting more and more people on the streets and more reliant upon the system......and peple are shocked that folks are acting out.....as Homer Simpson would say....DOH!.

Funny how people live in oblivion untill something actually encrouches upon their own doorstep.....they sit in bliss until the it actualyy affects them on a personal basis....shame on those people.

the world is falling to bits and people sit back and do nothing and soon as there is uprising they scream injustice at the perpetrators instead of directing it at the real people....all those politicians shouting down at the perps and not one of them taking responsibilty for themselves dropping the ball.

Digusting when you have the priminister calling the same people whom he himself has put out onto the streets and turned them into the criminals they are as there are no oppurtunities for the young as they dumb down the education system and the toss people out of they family homes....they take jobs out of britain and send them over to Germany as in the Bombardier case.

they are actually throwing police out of work and shutting down prisons and cutting funding to front end social services staff which try to help these youths out of their horrble situations.

for the first time in history the younger genration is going to be worse off then the older generation and do people give a damn as long as none of it reaches their own backyard.

people should be taking these youth that they are calling criminals(which some are) and guiding them to a way of decent protest aginst TPTB.

These so called criminals are many misguided and beaten down individuals whom have absolutely no future.

And now because of how this has turned no one is mentioning the complete injustice set upon Mark Duggan who was shot by these same people whom are calling everyone criminals.

when are people going to wake up to the underlying cause of this social economic breakdown of society.

now when the people will fight back...THey are fighting back against the wrong source.....they are turning against each other rather than turning on the same faces plastered across the news clling these people evil wrong doers.....The EVIL WRONGDOERS ar the TPTB.

They are moving us into these situations so that we do exactly this......we turn upon ourselves so that they can divide and conquer.






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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:20 AM
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A list of some of the people involved in the rioting:

Lifeguard, postman, hairdresser, teacher, millionaire's daughter, chef and schoolboy, 11

As you can see there are various people involved.... not all were on benefits or from Council Estates!!



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:22 AM
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Originally posted by n00bUK
This is just stupid now. loads of people saying its a black and asian thing ..wake the F up man. and you know what people are buyign into it.

i get people blackberry messeging me saying lets get thes F'in Paki's or F'in niggaz/wogs - i WAS part of the EDL leeds firm. im mixed race - half english/jamaican



Have you just realised that you are not really accepted as an equal ?



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:27 AM
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Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
A list of some of the people involved in the rioting:

Lifeguard, postman, hairdresser, teacher, millionaire's daughter, chef and schoolboy, 11

As you can see there are various people involved.... not all were on benefits or from Council Estates!!


That is true,

but 99.9% ARE!



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
A list of some of the people involved in the rioting:

Lifeguard, postman, hairdresser, teacher, millionaire's daughter, chef and schoolboy, 11

As you can see there are various people involved.... not all were on benefits or from Council Estates!!


Lifeguards, postmen, chefs and hairdressers usually don't earn much more than minimum wage, so that's not an indication that the troublemakers who held these jobs weren't from the council estates where the trouble largely stemmed from.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by brettcal82
reply to post by shtf2012
 


I feel embarrased to be English at this moment in time,



You don't need to feel this way .

I am not English but if it helps , I personally know a lot of great English kids .

This is just another plot of tptb to divide and rule the population.

I think the decent English does outnumber these looters and rioters by humungous number .


my 2 pence



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:35 AM
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Five days of this and no one is saying it.
Not even asking the question.
Alright, I'll ask it.
Please don't shoot the messenger.

When was the last time any of these looters went to church?


David Grouchy







posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:36 AM
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Originally posted by dbarnhart
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So totally predictable:

1. Big government liberals create a culture of dependancy.
2. Eventually the money runs out and services to the Dependent Class cannot be sustained.
3. By the time this happens the members of the Dependent Class have had the independence and self-sufficiency bred out of them and they have no alternative but to riot.

Greece. London. Where next?


how how how can you compare the Greek situation with the London scum one ??? Mammamia !!!
this is completely different : in Greece the working class and the students fight for their rights and for good and cheap studying, they do not burn shops and houses and cars and etc etc, no robbery, no vandalism, no stealing and looting ....
in England the NOT working class just want to loot and steal and have some fun putting fire everywhere etc etc just brainless people compared to the fullbrain Greece young ones !!!!!
nothing to compare here !!!!!
the ones in Greece fight for MORE democracy, against neo-capitalism that kills our human society.
The ones in London for greed and lazy life just for them, to get drugs and money without work, no respect for nobody, just for themselves !!!! SCUM !!!

the Greek revolt of the PEOPLE = 150 %%% OK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the London vandalism of the foolish scum bastards = 0 %%%% ok and 250 % anger against it !!!

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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:39 AM
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Originally posted by JohnySeagull
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Three men have been run over and killed as they protected property in a second night of violence in Birmingham.

The men aged 31, 30 and 20 were hit by a car in Winson Green. They were taken to City Hospital where about 200 people from the Asian community gathered.

Witnesses said the men were in a group protecting their community after riot police were called into the city.


www.bbc.co.uk...


the people involved in the rioting have nothing left to loose and nothing to live for. they do not care what happens to themselves or anybody else.

the news said the 3 were all from one family, an aunt and two brothers.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:53 AM
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in Greece the working class and the students fight for their rights and for good and cheap studying


Altrough in Greece they at least dont destroy things, I wouldnt idealise their cause so much. They do not fight for good and cheap studying, they already have it and noone is going to take it from them. They fight for ridiculously high pensions and government workers salaries, and against necessary cuts to high government spending. They fight for luxuries, not justified rights. Or generally for some ridiculous anarcho-socialistic utopia. They lived for years beyond their means, commited fiscal frauds, and now refuse to take responsibility.

Dbarnhart said it right. Overgrown culture of dependence (and pseudohumanism) is the root cause of problems both in Greece and GB. Not some "the rich" or "capitalism" scapegoat.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by Unrivaled1
''We the people will fight back''



My God the Politicians and Bankers must be absolutely pissing their pants with laughter as they sip on their champagne in their mansions that You and I payed for!

They caused this, in-fact they have caused 99% of the worlds problems, let alone our societies!
If people could just put their macho egos down we could sort this problem out once and for all.

What i would like to see instead of braindead people saying we're riot in you rah rah rah is to see the community say to these youths ok we know you have been lied to and betrayed and left to rot, we hear you, but attacking our small shops and homes is not the way! Lets put whats happened aside and get together and march on the REAL CRIMINALS WHO HAVE CAUSED ALL OF OUR SUFFERING THE GOVERNMENT AND BANKERS!


Very true, couldn't agree more with that



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by Maslo
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in Greece the working class and the students fight for their rights and for good and cheap studying


Altrough in Greece they at least dont destroy things, I wouldnt idealise their cause so much. They do not fight for good and cheap studying, they already have it and noone is going to take it from them. They fight for ridiculously high pensions and government workers salaries, and against necessary cuts to high government spending. They fight for luxuries, not justified rights. Or generally for some ridiculous anarcho-socialistic utopia. They lived for years beyond their means, commited fiscal frauds, and now refuse to take responsibility.

Dbarnhart said it right. Overgrown culture of dependence (and pseudohumanism) is the root cause of problems both in Greece and GB. Not some "the rich" or "capitalism" scapegoat.


I maintain : you cannot at all compare the situation in Greece or in Arab countrys and their democratic revolt with the London scum vandalism !!! if you do equalize the two then you do not understand at all what democracy and human fight for human life is all about !!!!
of course in Greece they have also some problems not 100 % justified but the fight in se is good, acceptable, moraly necessary !!!

in London nothing is acceptable, just the revenge of the good people !!!!
peace ok but not at all price please !!
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:08 AM
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Well tis a shame that you feel that people are SCUM ....

they are not SCUM ....they may be misguided...or acting out against the machine as that is the only weapons they have....yes it is sad what is going on....but it is a symtom of things that have been put upon the people by the filthy rich.....have you any clue how much more wealthy the rich are becoming on the backs of the peoples losses during these times.....they are accumulating unfathomable weath on the backs of the poor.....they are seliing us down the river and the social breakdown in society is inevitable and it is yet again another nail in the coffin upon our human rights.....the is a reprecussion of the degradation of society as a whole.....the dividing of neighborhoods...and the creation of more and more disfunctional families.

the world is changing and it is changing in a way that the 1% of the filthy rich will yet again be able exert more contols upon the citizens of the world.....times has come now for a global revolution......It is time to take down the glutonuos capitalist machne and start to look on the world as a whole and start to realize that we are a human race ...one race...there is not one person whom is better than the next because of the achieved personal wealth.....you take a rich person and stand them naked next to a poor person...and lo and behold they are the same......these people whom riot do not need our hatred as the authorities are saying....they need our guidance.....they need to be shown a direction in which to vent their anger at the appropriate organization.

The Goverment is WRONG...they are Elitists....working for the Elite....they do not have the interests of the people in their Agenda....they only have the interests of their selfserving interests of the high and mighty lobby groups.....the goverment is happy right now as they have something to focus on that takes the publics minds eye away from all their failings.
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:08 AM
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Originally posted by 23432

Originally posted by n00bUK
This is just stupid now. loads of people saying its a black and asian thing ..wake the F up man. and you know what people are buyign into it.

i get people blackberry messeging me saying lets get thes F'in Paki's or F'in niggaz/wogs - i WAS part of the EDL leeds firm. im mixed race - half english/jamaican



Have you just realised that you are not really accepted as an equal ?










hmmm come to my area n say that. White lads would slap you and put you in your place for sayign such dumb #. people like you need shotting point blank, it would really help soceity.

yup after reading your posts i can gather you a racist twat. Liek i said before, you need shooting - your just a product of segregation and you love it.

like i said, come my area lad you wouldnt last 2minuites.
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:09 AM
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Yeah a few people which were the exceptions, let me tell you go to East London and North London and try and find any that were involved that have a job or even want a job!
As I said previously, this could set the seed for a revolution that in my mind has been brewing since the end of the war but went full steam in the last 20 years. Where British people were targetted through propaganda and laws and policies based around destroying the national identity of Britain and destroying the Middle Class that emerged in the 60's/70's that were created to make the elite even more rich and now that they have served their purpose they will be as quickly eroded and destroyed. All these greedy filthy super rich manipulators want is a Communist system of rich and poor and that is it. A people with no identity, just drones to work and work and then die. To appease the poor with benefits that outweigh what most average workers get, serves simply to install in to them a fear of losing such benefits. These people have no fear of losing anything as it is all for free, but you watch, I bet you the moment this government turn around and say right you're going to lose money, you're going to possibly even lose your council property, watch how their attitude changes and the government will do it with the full support of the majority of the country.

This is setting the scene of a class war, where the perceived "poor" get smashed by the average working population who turn against them, already sick and tired of them rinsing the state. This will inevitably bring race in to the sum. The majority of London welfare claimants are ethnic minorites, the majority of immigrants who come in to this country are receiving some form of benefit pay out.

Do I blame any of these people? No, the governments over the years has tried to engineer and create a very different Britain, in doing so they have always had the belief that the average Brit, having been brain washed to hate themselves, will not fight back and if they do they will be tarnished with labels, bigot, racist etc. At the same time people have come over and been allowed to be as they are in their own countries. Even not learning the languages as translators are available where neceesary and so even in inner London schools, English in many is not the first language, not even the second. At the same time they get to live how they were, but with full benefits. From first hand experience these people can't believe that you get paid for having kids!

The government has created this, but many won't see it that way. They will see it as people taking as much as they can and giving as little as they can and I for one, although can see both sides can also see that yes,as a tax payer I often see the people that are grabbing rather than the people who are thieving from the workers and giving it to the grabbers. This will spiral and this will destroy Britain, but ineviatably, we are all to blame for allowing it to get this far.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 06:14 AM
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It's not a good idea to take matters like these into your own hands.
The police or those instructing them could do better. They should be prepared for this sort of mass rioting.

What this is showing me, is authorities are not as tough and able to take control of the masses as most fear they would and should. Why fear all this nwo / martial law business? Look at what you can get away with. The crowds pushed police back, not the other way around.

I was stunned to see this same lack of control in the recent Vancouver rioting.
After they carried on and on how our 2010 Olympics would have the best security ever employed. Using it as a reason to hike taxes. You would think at best they had been trained and London should be going through similar training.

One problem with manchester is they had donated police officers to help London riots and blabbering to the media they did, giving the criminals in lancs a strategic advantage to go into manchester if they want a big payday, stealing and selling the loot. It's the equivalent of leaving a note on your front door "will be gone for 3 hours" ( feel free to rob me)




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