We have a saying in China : “Construct the eagle's nest, and the eagle will come”.

CHINA has become the first buyer of US debt.
How does USA manage to spend more money than it earns ?
- USA sells state bonds. That’s “money out of thin air”.
- Thanks to an enormous surplus in its trade balance, CHINA is able to buy mountains of those US state bonds.
This has for CHINA, several advantages :
- 1) The debt of the US Government feeds US consumption, which is largely on imported goods, that is, in CHINESE goods …
- 2) those bonds are “good money” for a lot of companies in lack of assets
- 3) China “holds the G…S” of USA. The more DEBT of USA, the more POWER for CHINA.

Look at the results (one could easily lengthen the list ...)

China is buying the World

The country's largest PC maker, Lenovo, bought IBM's PC division, making it the sector's third largest player.

China's National Offshore Oil Corporation (CNOOC) has invested heavily in Nigeria's oil sector, including this rig near Port Harcourt. Now, CNOOC is in talks with the Nigerian government about access to some six billion barrels of oil in a deal that could be worth as much as $30 billion.

China Development Bank loaned Petrobras, Brazil's national oil company, $10 billion for a deep-water, offshore-exploration project.

China National Petroleum forked over $5 billion to develop a section of the South Pars gas fields in Iran.

Chinese construction firms are spreading throughout the world, erecting roads, dams, bridges, and airports.
In Angola, China is building football stadiums for next year's African Nations Cup as well as rail and road projects

Chinese takeover of the Swedish vehicle brand for $2 billion -- less than a third of the price Ford paid for it more than a decade ago.
Read more: Volvo

CHINA in GREECE

Greece's debt-ridden economy has received unexpected endorsement from China as the two countries announced multibillion euro accords to boost cooperation in fields as diverse as shipping, tourism and telecommunications.
Wei Jiafu, recently vilified in Greece, is now referred to affectionately by the local media as "Captain Wei." "We have a saying in China, 'construct the eagle's nest, and the eagle will come,'" he said during a visit to Greece last month. "We have constructed such a nest in your country to attract such Chinese eagles. This is our contribution to you."

You are welcome to lengthen the list of the eagle's nests ...

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reply to post by eldard


Uh ...
I don't get you, Eldard ...

Don't bother ork, your thread slahes eldards.

Shocking to know that China bought Volvo for two billion. These guys are everywhere. Problem is that all of their products are junk. How do I know? I live in America, that's all we import. Now don't we look smart.

reply to post by emaildogs


My brilliant thread complements this.

If you bought cheap Chinese junk that broke down, then you're a cheap ass person and deserved what you get. Most everything I own either come from China or Thailand and are branded. They last long.

I think a lot of people are getting ahead of themselves with China. America is an established power with long-standing resource and revenue streams, some we've even gone to war for (US-1 China-0). China, on the other hand, is just trying to get competitive so they have to buy their way hard into a market that has some real big players in it.

They are investing in Africa, because obviously the western world likes to treat it crap. Perhaps they can help Africa because modern, which would seriously tilt the global power.

All in all, I'm not concerned about their economic might unless America and Europe continue to screw things up, not take things seriously, and not see a looming threat when they see it. China is going capitalist, make no mistake about it. They got a taste and the money is good so they are coming to play.

Originally posted by KrazyJethro
They are investing in Africa, because obviously the western world likes to treat it crap. Perhaps they can help Africa because modern, which would seriously tilt the global power.

Or they are investing in Africa because they want the resources for themselves?

Oh, EAGLE!

That explains why my pterodactyl nest remains empty.

Actually the US Public is the biggest buyer of US Debt. Hmmm.. If Treasuries are the investment of safety, and the Government needs more money, it makes sense to create market volatility and chase investors to Treasuries.

Originally posted by eldard
Or they are investing in Africa because they want the resources for themselves?

I thought that was obvious.

Unlike the US and Europe, China doesn't care about the internal politics of said nation. That is why the more despotic areas like doing business with China and probably will continue to. US and European money always comes with conditions.

So, what's wrong with what they are doing?

Originally posted by KrazyJethro
So, what's wrong with what they are doing?

Nothing. I love what they are doing.

At least they're not some other country I know with a holier-than-thou attitude towards other countries yet continues to support puppet dictators, drug lords and diamond warlords. Hypocrisy, thy name is America.

China in Canada:

asiancorrespondent.com...

Chinese investment in the Alberta oil sands, which in the past two years has topped $13 billion dollars from the likes of energy giants Sinopec, CNOOC and PetroChina. This already substantial foray into Canada’s Northwest may be just the tip of the iceberg, however, with the Chinese government eager to secure an oil and gas supply network, and the deep pockets to pay for it.

Yes, China is buying a lot of stuff. Energy and electronic companies.

Now make a thread about what U.S. companies have bought and the deals they have made throughout the world. The list would be much longer.

How many U.S. companies have plants in China? How many U.S. companies sell chemicals and gadgets to China that the Chinese still haven't reverse engineered? Ask the Chinese how special pieces of a blown up U.S. stealth helicopter are to them?

China's growing and expanding all over the world, but every where China is going the U.S. has already been there decades, and they probably run quite of few of the puppet governments secretly. The U.S. was nation building in the Middle East in the 1920s with the U.K.

“Construct the eagle's nest, and the eagle will come”

And it will lay little eagle eggs to hatch more eagles that will devour the nest and country side.

I think all countries have a national debt.
Pecentage of debt to GDP.
1 Japan 225.80

2 Saint Kitts and Nevis 185.00

3 Lebanon 150.70

4 Zimbabwe 149.00

5 Greece 144.00

6 Iceland 123.80

7 Jamaica 123.20

8 Italy 118.10

9 Singapore 102.40

10 Belgium 98.60

11 Ireland 94.20

12 Sudan 94.20

13 Sri Lanka 86.70

14 France 83.50

15 Portugal 83.20

16 Egypt 80.50

17 Belize 80.00

18 Hungary 79.60

19 Germany 78.80

20 Dominica 78.00

21 Nicaragua 78.00

22 Israel 77.30

23 United Kingdom 76.50

24 Malta 72.60

25 Austria 70.40

26 Netherlands 64.60

27 Spain 63.40

28 Cote d’Ivoire 63.30

29 Jordan 61.40

30 Cyprus 61.10

31 Brazil 60.80

32 Mauritius 60.50

33 Ghana 59.90

34 World 59.30

35 Albania 59.30

36 Bahrain 59.20

37 United States 58.90

38 Seychelles 58.80

39 Morocco 58.20

40 Bhutan 57.80

41 Guyana 57.00

42 Vietnam 56.70

43 Philippines 56.50

44 Uruguay 56.00

45 India 55.90

46 Croatia 55.00

47 El Salvador 55.00

48 Poland 53.60

49 Malaysia 53.10

50 Kenya 50.90

51 Argentina 50.30

52 Pakistan 49.90

53 Tunisia 49.50

54 Turkey 48.10

55 Norway 47.70

56 Denmark 46.60

57 Aruba 46.30

58 Latvia 46.20

59 Finland 45.40

60 Colombia 44.80

61 United Arab Emirates 44.60

62 Costa Rica 42.40

63 Thailand 42.30

64 Dominican Republic 41.70

65 Mexico 41.50

66 Serbia 41.50

67 Slovakia 41.00

68 Mozambique 40.80

69 Sweden 40.80

70 Malawi 40.40

71 Czech Republic 40.00

72 Panama 40.00

73 Bolivia 39.70

74 Bangladesh 39.30

75 Ethiopia 39.30

76 Yemen 39.10

77 Bosnia and Herzegovina 39.00

78 Ukraine 38.40

79 Switzerland 38.20

80 Montenegro 38.00

81 Lithuania 36.70

82 Slovenia 35.50

83 Romania 34.80

84 Cuba 34.40

85 Macedonia 34.20

86 Canada 34.00 (*) See: Canada debt

87 Taiwan 33.90

88 South Africa 33.20

89 Senegal 32.10

90 Syria 29.80

91 Guatemala 29.60

92 Papua New Guinea 27.80

93 Indonesia 26.40

94 Trinidad and Tobago 26.40

95 Honduras 26.10

96 Gabon 25.80

97 Algeria 25.70

98 New Zealand 25.50

99 Venezuela 25.50

100 Moldova 25.00

101 Zambia 24.10

102 Korea, South 23.70

103 Peru 23.60

104 Tanzania 23.30

105 Ecuador 23.20

106 Paraguay 22.80

107 Botswana 22.60

108 Australia 22.40

109 Uganda 20.40

110 Angola 20.30

111 Namibia 20.00

112 Hong Kong 18.20

113 China 17.50

114 Saudi Arabia 16.70

115 Bulgaria 16.20

116 Iran 16.20

117 Luxembourg 16.20

118 Kazakhstan 16.20

119 Nigeria 13.40

120 Kuwait 12.60

121 Qatar 10.30

122 Cameroon 9.60

123 Russia 9.50

124 Uzbekistan 9.00

125 Estonia 7.70

126 Gibraltar 7.50

127 Chile 6.20

128 Wallis and Futuna 5.60 .

129 Azerbaijan 4.60

130 Oman 4.40

131 Equatorial Guinea 4.10

132 Libya 3.30

reply to post by JBA2848


Look at the bottom of that list and think back to what was one of the first things TPTB "gave" the rebels.

A national bank to indebt them...

Originally posted by tooo many pills
How many U.S. companies have plants in China?

And how many unemployed Americans are there now because of that?

Originally posted by orkson

CHINA has become the first buyer of US debt.
How does USA manage to spend more money than it earns ?
- USA sells state bonds. That’s “money out of thin air”.
- Thanks to an enormous surplus in its trade balance, CHINA is able to buy mountains of those US state bonds.
This has for CHINA, several advantages :
- 1) The debt of the US Government feeds US consumption, which is largely on imported goods, that is, in CHINESE goods …
- 2) those bonds are “good money” for a lot of companies in lack of assets
- 3) China “holds the G…S” of USA. The more DEBT of USA, the more POWER for CHINA.
Look at the results (one could easily lengthen the list ...)
China is buying the World

The country's largest PC maker, Lenovo, bought IBM's PC division, making it the sector's third largest player.

China's National Offshore Oil Corporation (CNOOC) has invested heavily in Nigeria's oil sector, including this rig near Port Harcourt. Now, CNOOC is in talks with the Nigerian government about access to some six billion barrels of oil in a deal that could be worth as much as $30 billion.

China Development Bank loaned Petrobras, Brazil's national oil company, $10 billion for a deep-water, offshore-exploration project.

China National Petroleum forked over $5 billion to develop a section of the South Pars gas fields in Iran.

Chinese construction firms are spreading throughout the world, erecting roads, dams, bridges, and airports.
In Angola, China is building football stadiums for next year's African Nations Cup as well as rail and road projects

Chinese takeover of the Swedish vehicle brand for $2 billion -- less than a third of the price Ford paid for it more than a decade ago.
Read more: Volvo

CHINA in GREECE

Greece's debt-ridden economy has received unexpected endorsement from China as the two countries announced multibillion euro accords to boost cooperation in fields as diverse as shipping, tourism and telecommunications.
Wei Jiafu, recently vilified in Greece, is now referred to affectionately by the local media as "Captain Wei." "We have a saying in China, 'construct the eagle's nest, and the eagle will come,'" he said during a visit to Greece last month. "We have constructed such a nest in your country to attract such Chinese eagles. This is our contribution to you."

You are welcome to lengthen the list of the eagle's nests ...

Is it me or does it sound like China wants to take over the world

reply to post by Violater1


Half if not more in that quote is not something China owns. China has companies like Haliburton doing construction projects for other countries. It does not me they own the country or the project they built. They got paid for a labor contract.

Another "Eagle's nest" and quite amusing one ...

NO ! Military HUMVEES will NOT be made in CHINA ...

The U.S. Army is assuring people that General Motors' deal to sell its Hummer brand to a Chinese company has nothing to do with the military version of the rugged vehicle. Officials said some people called the Pentagon, Capitol Hill and AM General LLC, the company that makes the military vehicles, asking if the rights to the Humvee had been sold to the Chinese. Steve Clawson, spokesman for the South Bend, Ind.-based AM General, said the military and civilian programs are separate. "GM's proposed sale of the civilian Hummer brand would have no impact on the military Humvee program," he said.

... That's WHY !

The "Mengshi (Warriors)" off-road military vehicle produced by Chinese automaker Dongfeng Motor surpasses U.S. Humvee in 12 out of 15 major battlefield performance indices, chief designer Huang Song has said. Use by the Chinese military force has proven that "Mengshi" overtakes Humvee in 12 indices, including the loading capacity and oil consumption, and are well-matched with Humvee in three other indices,