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Our Troops do NOT Protect Our Freedom and We Should Stop Thanking Them for Doing So

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posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:42 PM
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Let's forget completely that the responsibility of our Soldier's, Sailor's, Marine's and Airmen's actions lies squarely on the shoulders of the griping public. Soldiers don't choose the wars, our politicians do. Our politicians are supposed to be controlled by John Q Public. Every limp-wristed C-sucker in this thread who pays taxes to the U.S. American government is just as responsible as the men and women with the boots on the ground. Rest assured that if men and women didn't volunteer to die on your behalf, they would draft your narrow ass in 2 seconds flat. Then you could go get some trigger time or sit in a prison cell for 5-10 years. If the world was as black and white as you simple-minded idiots made it out to be, well, we wouldn't have nearly as many problems as we do now. It's not, and you people criticizing young men and women who put their TRUST IN YOU TO GUIDE THEIR ACTIONS AND DEPLOYMENTS have been let down and stabbed in the back by your wanton, lazy, self-righteous attitudes.




Semper Freaking Fi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

John Q Public is too busy paying their war taxes to notice your excellent post.




posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:43 PM
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yes they do!

if they were not overseas ruining others freedoms, your government would be deploying them on you.


the most patriotic act americans can do is incite your army to disobey orders and commit high treason


 
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posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by patternfinder

they're fighting on the rich banker's behalves...period.....


If they are, that's on you, baby! Why did you as a citizen give those rich bankers control of your affairs to begin with?

Don't piss and moan about it now... people like you set it up to begin with!




I don't use a bank account!!!! period.....I won't put my money in those filthy places.....Hell, i don't even like using their filthy debt money, but it's the only thing anyone will take for goods and services.....



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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You are correct. I may have been part of the reason why this thread has gone in that direction. Do me a favor stop thanking us. We get paid and are truly an all volunteer professional force. We dont need your thanks. Just your taxes. Keep paying them or we will come to your house burn it down cut off your penis and rape your women in the town square. All the while singing GOD BLESS AMERICA......


Semperkill...was the above quote yours?



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by ateuprto
People with your disposition make me sick to my f*cking stomach.



When I think of the innocent civilians you and the other cannon fodder out there commonly label as 'insurgents' and murder...I feel the same way.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
No offense taken here. But then again, I don't have anyone that close to me in the military. And thank God for that, because I have been saying for years that I am starting to hold the troops themselves responsible for continuing to allow this absurdity of a government to send them to their own deaths over nothing but money. Freedom is indeed free- it is governments that take it from you, and use your own death in the process.

So yeah, I see where this author is coming from. And it is true, unfortunately. Troops were given the guns to protect against invasion- not to be wielded by the warmongers for political and monetary profit. Once enough troops (with guns) see this, then maybe there will be change. But it will take generations, imo. And that's good, because I am not crazy about giving up my life to fight a bloody revolution. I would though, if chances were favorable of seeing the corrupt elite hang.

What we need is population control, except in the reverse. Send them all to Mars. There's water there, isn't there?


Ha, ha, they may already have a plan comparable to Mars when TSHTF! Don't underestimate the rats that sold us out.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by Paroxysm

Originally posted by User8911They are fighting on your behalf, because if they didn't...




Please stop.


I would not invade soverign nations and murder their people. DO NOT do this on MY behalf.

Now go @#$ yourself. kthx.


Get off your fanny and do something about it. Stop sending them to foreign countries. Don't send 'em then cry about it, as if your own hands are blood-free.

You, and all the other whiners, have your own shares of responsibility that you are steadily running from and trying to deny.

It's easy to point the finger at someone else when you fear looking in a mirror. Just ask Obama. Fact is, until you DO something, you've got no business whining about any one else.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by AnotherYOU
yes they do!

if they were not overseas ruining others freedoms, your government would be deploying them on you.


the most patriotic act americans can do is incite your army to disobey orders and commit high treason


 
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If every soldier did as you say, it would be mass murder in this country and when it ended we would be invaded. Lol people can be very very evil. The devil didnt need a pitch fork his toung was the most damaging.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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I must say soldiers are being stereotyped...not ALL soldiers go to war and kill people...many join to help their families, pay off school..not all jobs in the military are directly associated with war and death..Some do their time, get out and have better experience can pay for school for their kids, and have a nice life. My father was in Vietnam. A surgeon Col, who saved many lives, friendly and foes. He might not have agreed with the war but he did what he had to in his eyes. Nothing wrong with that.

I have a feeling many of you don't know anyone in the military or don't know MUCH about it. I may be wrong but seems like the perception of soldiers and people who work or were in the military is very negative..



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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I completely agree. In my small corner of the world I can't say something like this out loud because everybody thinks the military is actually serving our country's best interest. It irks me to hear some tell me to support our troops when I know that many of our troops have become murderers who wouldn't bat an eye at killing civilians, including women and children. Many of them still have a backbone, but a lot have become useless and cruel and do not represent the American people, they represent the American criminal cabal who runs this country.
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posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by Paroxysm

Originally posted by ateuprto
People with your disposition make me sick to my f*cking stomach.



When I think of the innocent civilians you and the other cannon fodder out there commonly label as 'insurgents' and murder...I feel the same way.


You have no f*cking idea what I have seen or done over there, nor what any other man or woman has seen or done. Quit assuming you have any idea whatsoever because it makes you sound like the ignorant, spoiled little child you most likely are. You limp-wristed little punk, to think that a large percentage of people "think" like you is scary. The view must be great from your overly simplified and tainted perspective.

Rest assured you know NOTHING about which you speak. Spoiled, self-righteous and ignorant little children like you ARE THE ONLY THING that makes a man like me feel a bit "murderous." Believe that.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:48 PM
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Then Leave...you sure enjoy the freedoms of a country you have such hate for. You earn a paycheck, you drive on roads, listen to music, enjoy the internet. Lots of places you would not be able to do any of those thiongs...grow up and leave.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by ateuprto

Originally posted by Paroxysm

Originally posted by ateuprto
People with your disposition make me sick to my f*cking stomach.



When I think of the innocent civilians you and the other cannon fodder out there commonly label as 'insurgents' and murder...I feel the same way.


You have no f*cking idea what I have seen or done over there, nor what any other man or woman has seen or done. Quit assuming you have any idea whatsoever because it makes you sound like the ignorant, spoiled little child you most likely are. You limp-wristed little punk, to think that a large percentage of people "think" like you is scary. The view must be great from your overly simplified and tainted perspective.

Rest assured you know NOTHING about which you speak. Spoiled, self-righteous and ignorant little children like you ARE THE ONLY THING that makes a man like me feel a bit "murderous." Believe that.



this is perfect example of what comes back from those wars and all the mind manipulation that goes on in the military.....



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:51 PM
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Geez, must be a slow day today. Lemme guess, mom didn't make you your peanut butter and jelly sammiches today, so someone decides to start another BS thread like this.

Hey Mods, ever take count of how many "US troops suck and we shouldn't thank them" threads are on ATS? Just curious.

Just a bunch of sorry excuses of human beings badmouthing troops because they themselves haven't done anything with their pathetic lives.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by DJMSN
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Then Leave...you sure enjoy the freedoms of a country you have such hate for. You earn a paycheck, you drive on roads, listen to music, enjoy the internet. Lots of places you would not be able to do any of those thiongs...grow up and leave.



I'd actually like to but i don't want to have to go through the exray porno scanners and groping that you guys have fought for us to have to endure.......



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by patternfinder

Originally posted by ateuprto

Originally posted by Paroxysm

Originally posted by ateuprto
People with your disposition make me sick to my f*cking stomach.



When I think of the innocent civilians you and the other cannon fodder out there commonly label as 'insurgents' and murder...I feel the same way.


You have no f*cking idea what I have seen or done over there, nor what any other man or woman has seen or done. Quit assuming you have any idea whatsoever because it makes you sound like the ignorant, spoiled little child you most likely are. You limp-wristed little punk, to think that a large percentage of people "think" like you is scary. The view must be great from your overly simplified and tainted perspective.

Rest assured you know NOTHING about which you speak. Spoiled, self-righteous and ignorant little children like you ARE THE ONLY THING that makes a man like me feel a bit "murderous." Believe that.



this is perfect example of what comes back from those wars and all the mind manipulation that goes on in the military.....


I'm done in this thread, the amount of ignorance and complete lack of any intelligence is not worth the effort. You kids keep thinking you know something. Take care.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:52 PM
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If you have selective memory, let me give a quick refresher....

The PUBLIC did not authorize the use of military force, nor was given an option to vote on it under Bush.


I did see a lot of this same public vote for Obama, because he ran on a campaign of Stopping these 'wars' and bringing all the troops home....but they were all surely let down over the last few years, as Bush faded into Obama and nothing changed.

The Public is not responsible for this madness, the corrupt leaders who lie to us are.



When you ask us to take action, do you suggest we shoot the politicians or the soldiers who are too dumb or brainwashed to truly think for themselves?



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:53 PM
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There comes a point when they do know.
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posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:56 PM
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you guys please listen to this....I'm actually begging you....please......for real......





posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:57 PM
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The VERY LAST THING I will say in this thread is that I have seen good men DIE while trying to cover and protect CIVILIANS in both countries. Not that any of you care to think about those young men who died doing so, its much easier to smear their good name and insult a large group of people who you know nothing about.

If you think all we're doing is murdering civilians then you either need to have your head examined or someone needs to drop your ass in the middle of the conflicts. If you think the "insurgency" we are now facing in Afghanistan and Iraq are good people...jesus christ, you have been sheltered from the REALITY of what goes on over there. Take care everyone.
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