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Originally posted by semperkill
reply to post by Paroxysm
That is idiotic.
1. I work for the goverment so if there is a "side" i have already chosen
Anyone else puzzled by the fact that a soldier is applauded who refuses to serve in an unjust war by those who do not refuse to sustain the unjust government which makes the war?
Half of Boeing’s revenue is from defense and space-related work.
Originally posted by semperkill
reply to post by cavscout11cav
You are correct. I may have been part of the reason why this thread has gone in that direction. Do me a favor stop thanking us. We get paid and are truly an all volunteer professional force. We dont need your thanks. Just your taxes. Keep paying them or we will come to your house burn it down cut off your penis and rape your women in the town square. All the while singing GOD BLESS AMERICA......
Originally posted by wcitizen
This article is written by an American about US troops.but Imo it applies to troops in pretty much all Western countries at the very least.
Like the author, I'm sure I will be flamed for posting this, but I feel I have to.
Let's make one thing crystal clear, no member of the US military contributes in any way whatsoever to protecting the freedoms of the American people. As a matter of fact, they are more likely to turn their weapons on you than they are to defend your Constitutional rights.
The only people on this planet Earth who can affect your freedom are members of Congress, local legislators and the members of enforcement institutions who will blindly follow the rulers who sign their paychecks. And, while your beloved troops are murdering people around the globe, yes, I said murdering, your Congress and local legislators are eliminating your freedoms, en masse, without any intervention by our so-called protectors in the armed forces.
There is no honor in volunteering to go anywhere in the world and kill anybody you are told to, without question, without historical background and without verifying the stated reasons for doing so. In this modern age of information we now know that time and time again our military have been deployed into battle, to kill and be killed, for reasons that in no way shape or form resemble the reasons for which they, or we were told at the time. This is no secret, although many Americans refuse to take off the flag that is wrapped around their eyes and see American history as it really happened. They blindly believe what was told to them by the people who have a vested interest in maintaining myths and misconceptions.
The US military, not once but twice, committed the single largest mass murders in history by dropping nuclear weapons on civilian populations, including of course, on women and children. Say what you want about how it helped end the war....the bottom line is the US could have exploded these devices over uninhabited territory with the same effect of scaring the heck out of the Japanese. But they followed orders that were lies and murdered almost 300,000 people, without question. As a human being I find it hard to honor such “patriotism.”
I realise this will upset many, but if we are to have any chance of being successful in overcoming the criminals in charge and their criminal systems, there are some paradigmatic shifts which must take place .... even if that involves the debunking of a sacred cow.
It's my impression that In the US the military tends to be revered more so than in Europe. I believe this has been encouraged and inculcated by the MSM, politicians and Hollywood, and is all part of the sham they have presented to the public as real.
My intent in posting this is not to offend, but to defend what is true. Sounds a little like brain washing by finding something wrong with our American country and then going on with it from there.
But I definitely agree, the US government can calculate but not think! You and I both know that the aliens which have been visiting Earth since ancient times won't be denied their acknowledgement as existing entities. I think that the world is headed for disaster with one sole purpose in mind. And that purpose is so alien technology can save us!
As Skunkworks worker Ben Rich has stated We already have the technology to journey to the stars but that it would take an act of God for it to ever benefit humanity. And thus I'm waiting for the day when the whole world dies. The Dissident Aggressor
edit on 9-8-2011 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)
My husband served 22 yrs as a military police narcotics/explosives dog handler in the US ARmy. He retired last April.
I, of course, disagree with you. I thank him everyday for his selfless service.
having little concern for one's own interests
For our family, it was join the military or be a drain on society and draw welfare because there are no jobs in our little appalachian hometown. He did it to earn his money.
You are entitled to your opinion, because the blood of many soldiers gave you that right.
Excerpt from The Declaration of Independence:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights...
tr.v. en·dowed, en·dow·ing, en·dows
1. To provide with property, income, or a source of income.
a. To equip or supply with a talent or quality: Nature endowed you with a beautiful singing voice.
b. To imagine as having a usually favorable trait or quality: endowed the family pet with human intelligence.
3. Obsolete To provide with a dower.
Originally posted by minesweeper
Originally posted by Jezus
Originally posted by milkyway12
Yeah im unwilling to exert energy , because until you stand up and change the people giving the orders then you must approve of it. So we follow them. If you dont like it , do something about it , not my job.
I agree with the op in many ways.
But you point is extremely valid.
We (the masses) allow our politicians to use our military for the corporate agenda.
Our tax money pays for the weapons.
We are just as responsible as those that join the military.
They really are just trying to do the right thing (most of them).
as i stated in one of my earlier post, mine and everyone's taxes are stolen from us. most are taking automaticly before we get our paycheck, even if they were'nt we would be jailed for not paying on our own. simpliy put, we have no choice but to pay and only a vote to make the choice as to how they are spent, and voting is a joke in of it's self and a whole nother topic.