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Originally posted by lowundertheradar
Martian Clouds Above Phoenix- 1
Dark Skies and Clouds Move in at Phoenix Site
Ice Clouds in Martian Arctic (Accelerated Movie)
Nightime Clouds in Martian Arctic
To me, this amount of water vapor appears in excess of what we've always been led to believe; that Mars is a cold, dry and harsh planet that cannot support life. Perhaps through the careful dribbling of information such as this, the mainstream scientific communities paradigm is being shifted towards possibilities, far, far different?
I've performed three searches on this subject here at ATS and have come up empty handed, so if these vid's already have an associated thread, my apologies to all!edit on 9-8-2011 by lowundertheradar because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by epsilon69
Reasons why there can be no life on Mars
1. It's to cold.
2. Lack of Atmospheric pressure.
3. Cosmic rays and solar radiation constantly sterilize the surface (UV light breaks molecules apart).
4. Lack of liquid water (due to reason 2).
5. To far from the sun meaning a lack of solar energy even if plant DNA could survive the onslaught of radiation.
So if we take all of these bullet points into account we can assume that Mars is devoid of any surface life as we know it, now the hard part is people coming to terms with this.
Images from the robotic craft show what appear to be liquid droplets growing, merging, and dripping on the lander's leg over the course of a Martian month.
The water can stay liquid even in the frigid Martian arctic because it contains a high amount of perchlorates, a salt "with properties like the antifreeze used to melt snow here in Michigan," said Renno, who will present the work next month at the 40th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference
NatGeo Article - Water recently found on Mars?
Originally posted by PunchingBag80
This is a good sign for earth, if these clouds produce rain then I believe Mars will be on its way to becoming habitibal. Does the phoenix change it's camera angle? It should periodicaly look at the ground to see if rain is falling. Cool stuff.
Oh, the Phoenix is broken...how convenient.edit on 9-8-2011 by PunchingBag80 because: correcting myselfedit on 9-8-2011 by PunchingBag80 because: mispelling
Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by snewpers
NASA now freely admits (ok, not freely admits, but by NASA standards it's as good as!) there is flowing, liquid water on Mars..announced in the last few days.
They are calling it 'Brine' though, but would anyone argue that the Dead sea isn't liquid water? That's Brine too.
A year or two ago, i can think of a few members here that would had a field day ridiculing any other member for saying there was liquid water on Mars..probably did too.
Here's a link: www.space.com...edit on 9/8/2011 by spikey because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by verylowfrequency
Thanks OP for the cloud pics.
Here's some dust devils and whatnot from a 2008 thread.
Video Credit: Image NASA/JPL-Caltech/University of Arizona/Texas A&M University
Originally posted by Illustronic
Mars's atmosphere is 0.6% of earth's at sea level. Look it up.
We cut the details and just say 1% of.
That sort of means negligible, in easy to understand terms.
You are doing the math wrong.edit on 27-1-2012 by Illustronic because: (no reason given)