Undeniable Evidence Of Fakery In Utoya Shootings Story

To moderators: You would not be justified in moving this thread to skunkworks,
as the truth of my observations are clear for all to see. (But you probably will anyways, right?).

So not much heard about the recent events in Norway anymore here.
I bet consequential new laws and decrees are being pushed through as I write though.

Here are two photographs showings different scenes following
the shootings in Utoya.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d7f8dac8db00.jpg[/atsimg]
images.mirror.co.uk...


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/bc7b8f6f40ec.jpg[/atsimg]
www.wwntoday.com...


Here we have 2 pictures of what appears to be the same pier/jetty, as can be
seen by the broken 2nd post of the white railing.
But both pictures do not gel with one another.

-The stone steps leading up the hill at the back of the 1st photo are
completely absent from photo 2.
-The sign post visible in the 2nd photograph is absent from the 1st photo.
-The pier/jetty lenght seems alot shorter in the 1st photo than in the second.
The height of the jetty from the ground is alot less in photo 1 than in photo 2.
-The policemen/medics are sitting on a section of the jetty in photo 1 that
is non-existent in Photo 2.
-At the near end of white railing in photo2, the jetty drops vertically to
meet the ground. In photo 1, the jetty does not drop to the ground but
continues out to the shoreline.
-The far first post of the railing is surrounded by brush and greenery in the
1st photo, which is completely absent from the 2nd photo.
-All the shoreline brush and shrubbery seen in photo 2 is completely absent
in photo 1.

There are other discrepancies but i will leave it there.

Now it seems that we are being played for fools Again, just like 9/11, 7/7etc.
Fakery Fakery everywhere, and we all continue to live in stupid denial.

Oslo+Utoya Fakery
Over 50 pages of Fakery evidence.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

What Say You Now Naysayers?
Am I just confused over issues of perspective?
Or am I still a disrespectful, dillusional Lunatic?
I would really like to know.

Is Fakery a real word?

Sounds like something you made up.

Originally posted by kro32
Is Fakery a real word?

Sounds like something you made up.

Yup just google it, its in many dictionaries.

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Deebo

Huh never would have guessed that.

It sounds like something a 4 yr old would say but I will start using it in reports then. Nice to build up your collection of words.

Isn't it just a question of angle and perspective?

Hi , this actually look spretty inetresting , not saying that this has to be some photo manipulation but it does look like something is way of if this is the same place .. Maybe there are two different piers that look very alike in the same area?

Edit : I don't know the more I look the more I think this is a matter of perspective , but I still have issues with the missing steps ..

These photos are the same. The first photo is a close up of the stone walkway, the far right of the frame would be just left of the post surrounded by shrubs in the second image.

The stone steps are not visible in the second image because the image is being taken from a different angle.

The sign post is out of frame in the second image. It would be a couple feet to the right, based on what I'm seeing.

The length of the pier appears different in these images only because of the angle at which they were taken.

The height of the pier/jetty is the same. It looks misleading because in the first image you are further away. The person in the grey shirt and black pants in photo #1 is in approximately the same area as the closest police officer in photo #2. Look closely and you'll notice there is an incline where these people are, behind that incline the jetty is much taller.

The brush on the shoreline that is "absent" from image #1 is out of frame, to the right.

These images are of the same location. The break in the fence, the tree behind and to the left of the fence (from our viewpoint), the way the stone walkway inclines approximately 1/2 way up it's length, etc..

Got your spectacles on this morning?

Can i ask you something?

How is your Relation with the Cluesforum?
Is this yours?

you were right about one thing. this definitely should be in skunkworks.

photos from 2 different angles. no fakery. try and imagine yourself in one of the pictures looking around. i think both match up perfectly.

reply to post by pshea38


Undeniable?

There is no fakery, other than your thread title! You clearly have no understanding of either perspective or camera angle.

Hang your head in shame sir. Epic fail.

st.

Edit: Had a quick look at the wwntoday website that you linked, it revealed this image...


Notice the steps in the upper right. Maybe you should spend a bit longer researching OP.


Edit2: Yet another image, looking directly up the pier/jetty. No fakery, just a different viewing angle.

those are two different places....one can see the angle brace at the end of the handrail is located differently...that thin white angle piece....

reply to post by pshea38


I think you might be on to something. It's like spot the differences in the two photos of exactly the same area and I found many descrepencies. We know there was alot of loss of life (true count?), and it appears media is photoshopping?

I'd be interested to see more, this is part of what ATS is all about. No, I don't think you are being disrepectful at all. If you have more, go ahead and post.

In the meantime I'm still trying to wrap my head around why the Norwegian Socialist Party wanted Israel bombed by NATO forces months before this incident and if there is any truth to it!

reply to post by pshea38


Dude, google "perspective" and do yourself a favor. The two pictures are clearly of the same pier, at different angles, giving you a different perspective. Examine the railing in both images, it's the same, the sign post is behind one of the police officers in the second photo, the stairs are angled out off to the right out of frame in the second photo.

I'll stop there, as I stopped reading right about there too, sorry, it's a tragedy and horrible, no need to dig for conspiracies that aren't there.

While it certinally does look like just perspective.

Lets not forget, the press usually DO alter photographs to suit THEIR story.

Reuters have been caught at this many times, as have other agencies. we know this for a fact.

Are some of you people crazy or have you other agendas?
What are the policemen sitting on?
This whole section is missing from the second picture.

Also how can the policemen who are sitting down touch the ground
with their legs when the drop is clearly almost body height, as can clearly
be seen in the second photograph?

Where is the sign-post gone?

Out of curiosity, Which press agency owns the photograph?

reply to post by pshea38


You work too hard at your "fakery" business. the images are taken at an angle of about 90 degrees apart and the tide is out on the one which also changes the vertical.

The prime question is why would they so extensively photoshop those scenes when they are virtually worthless for any evidence? And if you want to say they built a staged set for the photo shoot, they your fakery has even less credibility. Worse than making a mountain out of a molehille, you are attempting to make something out of nothing.

Yep, This is the wrong forum. You did get that possibility correct. While you may well-intended with this, I would place it in the hoax forum.

Originally posted by kro32
Is Fakery a real word?

Sounds like something you made up.

First in and that's what you have to say.
Ha.I am made up!

Yeah, the press manipulates photos in some cases..

Not the case here.

And just to clarify, the post isn't behind one of the officers, it's out of frame to the right of the second image in the OP.

The brace that another poster claims is different is not visible in the first image, because of the angle the picture was taken. The angle would be nearly straight on the narrow side of this brace, and partially hidden behind the handrail itself and shadows. These are the same location from different angles, and should be obvious to anyone who's looking for reality first and foremost, and then looking for the conspiracy.

Just afew of many differences:

Grey post standing next to walkway should appear on both photos; shoreline - one appears more stoney than the other, steps going up in one and not the other should appear on both photos, slope next to railing differs in both photos, grass......

although these are two separate photos on a different angle, frames appear different in both.