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Are the London Riots a False Flag?

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posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 08:11 AM
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more Drivel Of The Day. yea it's a false flag. Obama got out of bed this morning...i guess that's some kind of conspiracy too. watch out...you are gonna see a blue car today, and you can post how that was The Man following you around because you know too much about The New Power Elite.




posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by Honor93

Originally posted by CharterZZ
reply to post by wcitizen
 

I reckon these riots are being organised through facebook, a place where people can spread word like wildfire. These rioters are mostly the bored unemployed people, any sniff of a riot and its like christmas for them.

I dont see any false flag here at all.

it's great that you expressed an opinion, but could you freshen up on the 'news' part before presenting an opinion that has already been debunked, refuted and or proven false?
Blackberry mssging seems to be the choice communication in this case ... not FB or Twitter or Androids or other social media.
If you don't clearly see a false flag, you are not looking close enough.
*** how many teens carry blackberrys?


These rioters are mostly the bored unemployed people
thanks, now i'm sure you're disinfo agent ~~ unless you were there and know the rioters personally?


Pretty much all of them ! Cheaper than an Iphone you see. And expensive Nike trainers, lots of branded sports gear, gold rings. take a look at the pics of the winkers leaving the stores they're looting, then ask the question...if these are the "poorer under classes of society" how the hell can they afford to buy the things they have? Oh it's OK...I remembered, cos my taxes are handed directly to them from my pay packet. And now my taxes are going to pay to repair the damage they've done.

There is no false flag here. Just criminal scum thinking they can sit on there fat lazy arses complaining about how badly they are treated by society. They need to re-asses their priorities. the money that I give to them is to ensure they can live comfortably, feed and clothe themselves and put a roof over their heads, and as a closet socialist, I'm comfortable contributing towards that. If they want the luxuries of large flat screen TVs and expensive clothes, do what the rest of us do...get a friken job, and dont tell me there arent any there are. the problem is there isn't a job you WANT to do.

Well guess what, the majority of us don't do jobs we WANT to do, we do jobs that allow us to enjoy the time when we're not at those jobs, and fell a certain satisfaction that the luxuries that we do have, are paid for and legitimate.

Unfortunately, as well as taking money from all working people, these scum have now also given the government the opportunity to take away certain freedoms. to para phrase or Prime minister this morning.

"the police will be allowed to do whatever needs to be done in order to contain and rectify these problems...anyone sprouting human right violations can jump in a puddle" or words to that effect.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 09:22 AM
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'BE THE WEAPON NOT THE TARGET' subliminal advertising doing the rounds across the UK at the minute

omssfootball.blogspot.com...



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 09:37 AM
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its not subliminal advertising, its just designed to appeal to the simpleton football fans that think its war and not really a game.

And as to weather this was a false flag



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 09:38 AM
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I guess this well timed mass riot will help them get their ducks in a row for when the REAL rioting starts when people are moneyless and take to the streets by the thousands if and when Cameron introduces Austerity measures in Britain.
It sure is incredibly convenient that a mass riot not seen in Britain since the 70s just happens to occur now.
But then quite a few mass training exercises have gone live, so I wouldn't be surprised.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 09:45 AM
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Don't make excuses for the mainstream media. For the past 10 years we've had to put up with the watered down (in your face) advertising showing glamorisation of Guns, Drugs, Theft, such games as grand Theft Auto, album covers with rappers shoving guns in your face (the video's no better.) Jeremy Kyle on TV consistently, Teenage Mothers being praised for having underage sex and never being punished for it. Short-term jail times for hard crime and even in jail its a life of luxury, even better than living in the estates they do as they get fed and laze around all day watching TV and reading papers.
Subliminal adverts like the ones above, come on, this is meant to be 2011 where education and intelligence should be rewarded. What do we have instead? a 'Big Brother' culture watching these same idiots living in a house together 24/7 for 10 weeks, and making kings/queens of them.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:00 AM
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Can't come to terms with citizens being fed up and treated like sheep? The sheep cannot even protest on their own free will based on their own frustrations, their riots MUST also be organized by the government?

Is it possible that 'sheeple' all over the world are re-discovering that they are actually people and are approaching their tolerance limits of their shepherds? Is it so hard to accept this possibility so much that we look between and behind every line for an explanation for how the sheep can speak?



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:20 AM
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No police on the streets?
and the government is making big
cut backs in the number of police?
coincidence? I think not.
some one is playing games.
they wont a high number of police.
and as for the boy who got shot.
I was listening to radio west midlands
last night. ever nigh they talk about all kinds of things.
including conspiracies. from about 1pm to 4pm uk.
on the web too.
some girl said the kid was shot two times.
one in the chest and one in the hip.
his gun IN a sock was a fake.
he had the gun because his brother got shot.
by four thugs?
and the police knew what was going on.

in uk birmingham.
they stopt the busses after about 10pm
I could not get home.
and 5 miles from B/ham a lot of shops where closed?
and in the day police at big shops out of the city?
are they trying to get people in to the idea of a police state?
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posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:25 AM
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thank god we have cfr website to reassure us all.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:26 AM
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... and then people wonder how come the elites can do whatever they want. lol.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:37 AM
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Sheep? During the last 3 nights this flock have been looking increasingly wolf like in their actions and ferosity!
I have stated this several times and will continue to do so, this is not an uprising, this not revolution nor even the opening of a great uprising. This a section of society that, here in Britain at least, get more than any other "disadvantaged" people on the planet. These are people that get more than the average British worker!
These are kids that get free days out to theme parks, free money on the social, free pretty much everything. Do I feel sorry for them, no and I more than most at least who post on here should relate to them. I grew up in Brixton, I've lived in East London and believe me, it opens your eyes not to how rough these people have it, but how rough these people make it. This is where I understood that it is not the place that is rough, but the people. I, along with many, got out of that life through nothing more than hard work and dedication, certainly not education, teachers didn't care whether he got an education or not back when I was a kid. Why should I feel sorry for a bunch of people looting, burning, beating when these people get MORE than the people that they are attacking? I'm sick of excuses! These people have no motivation because when you get it for free, why be motivated?

If the poor always used poverty as an excuse, Britain would never have got out of the stone age!



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:51 AM
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The gun was a modified gun, meaning it may have been fake but it was modified to fire real bullets. Whether or not the story is true about carrying a gun because his brother was shot etc etc. Ask yourself this.

Why did his brother get shot and what did he have to fear from his brother getting shot i.e what was he involved in?
Do you know the training and procedures that armed police rehearse and go through in order to deal with a threat?
In the police officers boots, how would you react to information that the suspect you are appraoching is armed, to the fact that several witnesses state that police ordered the the guy to give himself up, but he didn't?
Is it important whether he fired a shot or not from his gun? He was carrying a gun, that much is certain, police never once said he fired on them, the media assumed that, but there was a threat to life. This was an armed man wanted by police. Put yourself in the Police Offciers boots, it is in public, the man is armed, he is refusing to give himself up, there are people around, you have a split second to decide what happens next, innocent lives are at stake.

I know we can all read the papers and listen to media rabble and forge our own perceptions, but believe me, put yourself in the situation and put your possible contempt for authority aside.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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I don't believe it's a false flag, it's just idiots looking to ruin their lives even further.

But I have seen people asking for military intervention, and usually it's from people under the age of 16 who also think guns should be legal.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:59 AM
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Oh give me a break, if games like Grand Theft Auto are responsible for violence amongst kids, then I'm blaming World of Warcraft for all of the looting that's going down

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Didn't his brother get stabbed outside a nightclub?



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 11:05 AM
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When support is united in an understanding that the real people oppressed are the silent majority that haven't got the money to take a day off work to protest, but the silent majority that keep the top and the bottom in happy lives then may be the elite at the very top will be toppled. Until then, can't see anything happening because in all the protests I've seen, not one has been about the hardship of the average working british family. Students are too caught up in their own world and the Unions are too corrupt and go on about their own members who have to pay every month for the pleasure of getting nothing but talk and the PCS are top of that list, greedy useless scum!

When will people protest about taxation? Protest about increase in cost of food and cost of energy bills shooting through the roof? Protest at no jobs, but continued open door immigration policies because "Brits won't do the jobs", funny because I know of two nurses who had to find work in Australia because they couldn't get a job here. I know of several tradesmen who have had to go abroad due to undercutting by companies hiring cheap labour from Poland. When will people protest about discrimination of British nationals on council rehoming lists? About how school places have been taken over by families who have not lived in the area 5 minutes and the country 10 minutes, yet local children have to travel for miles with no extra money from the state! What about going to your GP and told there is a month wait to see him? When will people protest about the issues that affect every single one of us rather than their own little bubbles?

I guess the elite will win after all!



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 11:11 AM
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I honestly don't know, but why would he be in fear from it? In my experience there is reason behind everything that happens in these slums. When you live in these slums, there are times when someone will brake in to your home and attack you without reason or pull a knife and nick your wallet. However, most of the time there is history behind the conflicts that occur. If someone stabbed my brother I wouldn't think nothing other than I hope the guy rots in hell. If someone stabbed my brother because of "business" we were both involved in, I'd be watching my back. These people in these areas are nasty, but there is usually a reason why stabbings and shootings happen and very very rarely is it to do with nothing or simply a botched mugging. The fact that police wanted him speaks for itself. I know people will be saying that you can't judge, but I know these places, I grew up and lived in them and you can't fool someone who knows the rough overview of how these places and these people work.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 11:17 AM
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I don't think he was in fear, I think he wanted revenge. And I think that's why the police put him on their watch list. Which lead to him being stopped and then shot



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 11:28 AM
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A bunch of hooligans are burning down people’s homes and businesses and you are trying to deflect blame away from them.


I've never seen a single scenario on this scale before, that didn't have a small group of puppet masters behind it. It was eventually discovered that Egypt did, as I was expecting.

A small robbery of one, maybe even two stores; sure, you can say that there's nothing there other than the kids themselves.

But this? No. There is someone behind it. I'm not saying I know who they are, or what their motivation is, but there is someone. Things this large don't happen on their own. Sure, you might have people thinking they're taking part autonomously at the local or individual level, perhaps; but you can bet your life that at the ultimate root of this, it has been co-ordinated and instigated, and *not* by teenagers.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 11:30 AM
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Which is a probable reason, but is there a mention of that from anyone? It seems if that was the case, someone tipped off the old bill, who? It could only have been a friend or family relation that he more than likely told, why not come forward, instead of jumping up and down claiming the police were out of order and murderers! Don't say that he didn't have a gun, because we all know he did! Don't say they went to the police, they'd get killed by their own people, but say that he had been down, he had been acting stressed and depressed and paranoid but he never wanted to hurt anyone. Sounds better right? They don't though, they treat everyone like idiots! Which is why not many have sympathy when someone dies in these communities! The lack of objectivity and people are sick and tired of having their intelligence mocked. People outside of these areas may fall for it, but take it from me, behind doors there isn't one, even his mates who KNOW that the old bill really acted how they could've only acted given the situation. I know because I've been in rooms filled with people smoking joints and ranting the same thing when the old bill have C.S gassed someone and they're in hospital, outside these people rant and demand blood, inside they all say what a dumb mother#er why didnt he just give himself up.

As for the the same time it doesn't explain why he didn't just give himself up. You have armed police aiming guns at you, you have done nothing wrong, apparently, yes you have a gun but he could've blagged it say he thought it was fake and he would've got a nothing sentence unless he had previous.
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posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by Griffo
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Oh give me a break, if games like Grand Theft Auto are responsible for violence amongst kids, then I'm blaming World of Warcraft for all of the looting that's going down



Yeah because I really saw nerds, geeks, and WoW players out there amongst the riots burning down the shops. About as logical as blaming it on Goths who listen to Marilyn Manson..I didn't see many Goths out there rioting.



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