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Originally posted by deltaboy
reply to post by woodwardjnr
Criminality on a massive scale? Sounds similar to what happened in Egypt with the riots. Back then Mubarak call them that.
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by DrHammondStoat
So in other words, they are behaving like the wealthy, except they lack the state sanction to do so.
You're correct about that much. It's not just about the working people either.
so this is not just about poor people taking their revenge.
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
It seems to me like this uprising must have been motivated and driven into manifestation by a force greater than the greed of a criminal. The criminal activity is merely a predictable side-effect, criminals will exploit any situation like this to commit crime. The media will play it out like the whole thing is a bunch of criminals on a rampage, which is most likely far from the truth.
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
This is not a revolution, please stop calling it one. It is criminality on a massive scale. Criminal opportunism taking advantage of the situation. A real break down in moral's an values. This is not the rise of the masses, but an out pouring of criminality.
Originally posted by BAZ752
Revolutions have strong underlying political purposes where demonstrations are carried out en-masse by the public in protest against and with intent to change a present regime! This is not, nor does it have the potential to be either. If anything this will ignite tensions between minorities and fuel immigration and racial hatred if anything. I hear more non-racist people talking aggressively of the situation than I hear of those addressing the apparent political issues at hand. There's a clue for you.
This is under-class scum festering on what can only be described as an opportunist spree. That is precisely what this is.
I agree "side-effect" was a bad choice of words and I was hesitant to phrase it that way. However, my point still stands; criminals will always exploit any type of uprising and riot whether it's for a real reason or not. You parrot what the television tells you as if you were there. Are you there? Of course shop owners and upstanding citizens are going to be shaken and concerned, that is also a predictable "side-effect".
Side effect! You're having a laugh. Television and eye witnesses clearly show that there are gangs of looters and arsonists.
Originally posted by deltaboy
Originally posted by BAZ752
Revolutions have strong underlying political purposes where demonstrations are carried out en-masse by the public in protest against and with intent to change a present regime! This is not, nor does it have the potential to be either. If anything this will ignite tensions between minorities and fuel immigration and racial hatred if anything. I hear more non-racist people talking aggressively of the situation than I hear of those addressing the apparent political issues at hand. There's a clue for you.
This is under-class scum festering on what can only be described as an opportunist spree. That is precisely what this is.
When the British Prime Minister calls an emergency meeting to deal with this crisis. Thats how serious it is. Tempting to put out the flames before it gets worse.
By the way...how did the French Revolution get started?
Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
People need to get a grip, talking about a revolution.
These are loutish chavs causing destruction and mayhem for the fun of it, and looting designer clothes and electronics.
They are not motivated by any political or social cause, other than getting freebies and causing mindless violence.
If they had any ''altruistic'' motivation, then they wouldn't be destroying their local communities and ruining their local businesses.
People need to cast their minds back to the riots in France, in 2005. They lasted for 3 weeks, and it was teenagers and young adults from the lower socio-economic classes who were causing the same mayhem, and destroying their own communities.
OK, the economic situation wasn't as bad then, but that hardly led to revolution. Quite the opposite, as it sowed even more disharmony and suspicion of the socio-economic class who caused the mayhem from the law-abiding French population.
This is going exactly the same way in Britain; this has only led to more people taking the side of the authorities, and being seriously pissed off at these selfish and morally devoid yobbos.
Originally posted by LondonerBLV
Hardly a revoloution if the only people supporting it are the people who depend on the state the most.