Originally posted by ChaoticOrder

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
This is not a revolution, please stop calling it one. It is criminality on a massive scale. Criminal opportunism taking advantage of the situation. A real break down in moral's an values. This is not the rise of the masses, but an out pouring of criminality.

It seems to me like this uprising must have been motivated and driven into manifestation by a force greater than the greed of a criminal. The criminal activity is merely a predictable side-effect, criminals will exploit any situation like this to commit crime. The media will play it out like the whole thing is a bunch of criminals on a rampage, which is most likely far from the truth.

Side effect! You're having a laugh. Television and eye witnesses clearly show that there are gangs of looters and arsonists.

The spark may indeed have not been by "criminals" but the gangs now looting and burning are criminals (a criminal being someon who breaks the law). Private homes are being trashed, shops emptied and businesses burned. The police/politicians/establishment are not the target it's everything in a local area. This is yob violence by people who do not give a flying f... for anything or anybody except themselves.

Revolutions have strong underlying political purposes where demonstrations are carried out en-masse by the public in protest against and with intent to change a present regime! This is not, nor does it have the potential to be either. If anything this will ignite tensions between minorities and fuel immigration and racial hatred if anything. I hear more non-racist people talking aggressively of the situation than I hear of those addressing the apparent political issues at hand. There's a clue for you.


This is under-class scum festering on what can only be described as an opportunist spree. That is precisely what this is.

Originally posted by BAZ752
Revolutions have strong underlying political purposes where demonstrations are carried out en-masse by the public in protest against and with intent to change a present regime! This is not, nor does it have the potential to be either. If anything this will ignite tensions between minorities and fuel immigration and racial hatred if anything. I hear more non-racist people talking aggressively of the situation than I hear of those addressing the apparent political issues at hand. There's a clue for you.


This is under-class scum festering on what can only be described as an opportunist spree. That is precisely what this is.

When the British Prime Minister calls an emergency meeting to deal with this crisis. Thats how serious it is. Tempting to put out the flames before it gets worse.

By the way...how did the French Revolution get started?

No revolution here, just ignorant uneducated yobs on a theft and violence rampage.

Everybody is furious. Expect a massive law and order surveillance state backlash.

Originally posted by deltaboy

Originally posted by BAZ752
Revolutions have strong underlying political purposes where demonstrations are carried out en-masse by the public in protest against and with intent to change a present regime! This is not, nor does it have the potential to be either. If anything this will ignite tensions between minorities and fuel immigration and racial hatred if anything. I hear more non-racist people talking aggressively of the situation than I hear of those addressing the apparent political issues at hand. There's a clue for you.


This is under-class scum festering on what can only be described as an opportunist spree. That is precisely what this is.

When the British Prime Minister calls an emergency meeting to deal with this crisis. Thats how serious it is. Tempting to put out the flames before it gets worse.

By the way...how did the French Revolution get started?

Oh dear, honestly? Are we really going to discuss this?

...I have not dispelled the severity of this event, so don't insinuate that I'm playing it down. I'll say no more.

People need to get a grip, talking about a revolution.

These are loutish chavs causing destruction and mayhem for the fun of it, and looting designer clothes and electronics.

They are not motivated by any political or social cause, other than getting freebies and causing mindless violence.

If they had any ''altruistic'' motivation, then they wouldn't be destroying their local communities and ruining their local businesses.

People need to cast their minds back to the riots in France, in 2005. They lasted for 3 weeks, and it was teenagers and young adults from the lower socio-economic classes who were causing the same mayhem, and destroying their own communities.

OK, the economic situation wasn't as bad then, but that hardly led to revolution. Quite the opposite, as it sowed even more disharmony and suspicion of the socio-economic class who caused the mayhem from the law-abiding French population.

This is going exactly the same way in Britain; this has only led to more people taking the side of the authorities, and being seriously pissed off at these selfish and morally devoid yobbos.

Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
People need to get a grip, talking about a revolution.

These are loutish chavs causing destruction and mayhem for the fun of it, and looting designer clothes and electronics.

They are not motivated by any political or social cause, other than getting freebies and causing mindless violence.

If they had any ''altruistic'' motivation, then they wouldn't be destroying their local communities and ruining their local businesses.

People need to cast their minds back to the riots in France, in 2005. They lasted for 3 weeks, and it was teenagers and young adults from the lower socio-economic classes who were causing the same mayhem, and destroying their own communities.

OK, the economic situation wasn't as bad then, but that hardly led to revolution. Quite the opposite, as it sowed even more disharmony and suspicion of the socio-economic class who caused the mayhem from the law-abiding French population.

This is going exactly the same way in Britain; this has only led to more people taking the side of the authorities, and being seriously pissed off at these selfish and morally devoid yobbos.

Well said, chap!

If the police handled the riots properly at the beginning, would we be where we are now?
Probably not

If you call breaking into a bookmakers to steal the monitors a revolution, then yeah, it is one.

If you call setting fire to a carpet store with 21 flats above it, and then blocking the residents path of escape while you try and steal carpets a revolution, then yeah, it is one.

If you call smashing the windows out of a bus filled with people minding their own buisness, forcing them to evacuate it and then setting it on fire a revolution, then yeah, it is one.

If you call smashing out shop windows so that you can get in and steal anything from a TV down to a new pair of trainers or even just some cigarettes a revolution, then yeah, it is one.

If you call going to "help" an injured person, who is semi concious lifting them to their feet, looking for all the world like you are concerned just so you distract them while your mate fleeces the rucksack on their back a revolution then yeah, it is one.

To the rest of us normal civilised human beings however, its scum being scum.

Hardly a revoloution if the only people supporting it are the people who depend on the state the most.

Absolute piss take. Nobody I know supports these riots. The only people who do are criminals.

This is a multicultural mess.

As the economy of Europe goes awry I expect real revolution. In Italy especially I expect mobs to storm the Vatican and murder many priests.

Right now though these are just entitled brats.

Originally posted by LondonerBLV
Hardly a revoloution if the only people supporting it are the people who depend on the state the most.

...You're aware that it's the wealthy who depend on the government the most, right?

Right now the police are standing by and letting these people smash up a poorer part of town. The moment the horde moves towards somewhere with money, watch some skulls get cracked.

Then tell me who gets the most out of the state.