Revolution in the making in the UK???

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LONDON (Reuters) - British Prime Minister David Cameron was to hold crisis talks on Tuesday after three nights of riots, looting and arson by masked, hooded youths that wrecked shopping streets in many parts of London and spread to other cities.

Neighborhoods across the capital faced a massive clean-up of smashed glass, bricks, bottles and gutted buildings as police reinforcements reclaimed the streets from the youths.

Politicians and police blamed the riots -- the worst in Britain for decades -- on criminals and opportunistic hooligans.

But residents in affected areas and some commentators attributed the unrest to local tensions and anger over economic hardship in a city where the gap between the haves and have-nots is growing.

"We ain't got no jobs, no money. We heard that other people were getting things for free, so why not us?" asked E.Nan, a young man in a baseball cap in Hackney, a multi-ethnic area in east London and one of the worst hit areas.

The riots broke out amid deepening gloom in Britain, with the economy struggling to grow while the government is imposing deep public spending cuts and tax rises brought in to help eliminate a budget deficit that peaked at more than 10 percent of GDP.

They will also show an ugly side of London to the rest of the world less than a year before it hosts the 2012 Olympic Games, an event which organizers hope will showcase a dynamic, prosperous and cosmopolitan city.

"This is not about race, faith and class pure and simple," said Professor Mike Hardy, Executive Director of the Institute of Community Cohesion.

"One of the most powerful drivers is about the haves and have-nots. It's about those who are excluded."

Overnight, as the violence died down, cars piled high with goods drove at high speed through London streets. Witnesses were told of numerous cases of car theft by groups of looters.

BROKEN GLASS

In the poor eastern district of Woolwich, broken glass littered streets that were strewn with stolen goods, tailors' dummies and other debris.

Police said they had arrested 334 people in London and about 100 in Birmingham in the English Midlands. Violence also broke out in Bristol in the southwest and the northwest port of Liverpool.

At one point, the London fire brigade said it was running out of vehicles to tackle fires started by the rioters and police said they had called in 1,700 reinforcements to help London police cope with fast-moving groups of looters.

Cameron broke off his holiday in Italy on Monday to fly home. He was due to chair a meeting of Cobra, the government's crisis committee, to work out a strategy to prevent more violence and consider why the riots broke out and spread so fast, taking the authorities by surprise.

Some commentators have blamed the rioting partly on cuts in social services being imposed as a result of the government's tough austerity policies to reduce a large budget deficit. Economic growth is sluggish.

Many looters were from areas of high unemployment and said they felt alienated from society.

Hooded youths in Hackney pushed burning rubbish bins down a street toward police on Monday, laughing as they ran back when police charged them. Others smashed their way into a shop and ran off clutching bottles of whisky and beer.

Reuters witnesses saw similar scenes in Woolwich, Clapham in the south and Ealing in the west. In Ealing, one resident told Reuters about 150 hooded youths had walked down his road smashing car windows in a display of "mindless vandalism."

"It's very sad to see...But kids have got no work, no future and the cuts have made it worse. These kids are from another generation to us and they just don't care," said Hackney electrician Anthony Burns, 39.

"You watch. It's only just begun."

So its true? Sounds similar to Egypt or other countries where the elite and dictators are haves and the rioters are the have nots and people call them thugs and terrorists.

This is not a revolution, please stop calling it one. It is criminality on a massive scale. Criminal opportunism taking advantage of the situation. A real break down in moral's an values. This is not the rise of the masses, but an out pouring of criminality.

reply to post by deltaboy


It's all part of the Mercury Retrogade.

When things can go bad, they definitely will.

reply to post by woodwardjnr


What you see now does not need to be the revolution.

It could be the catalyst.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
This is not a revolution, please stop calling it one. It is criminality on a massive scale. Criminal opportunism taking advantage of the situation.

The post by the OP even says as much, if he'd actually bothered to read it before copy/pasting it here.
We heard that other people were getting things for free, so why not us?" asked E.Nan, a young man in a baseball cap

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
This is not a revolution, please stop calling it one. It is criminality on a massive scale. Criminal opportunism taking advantage of the situation. A real break down in moral's an values. This is not the rise of the masses, but an out pouring of criminality.

that is certainly what the government and the media want you to believe.

we will only see in the next week or two if this is the case.

the numbers of people who have now nothing left to loose are swelling.

people who still have jobs and can purchase for their families cannot understand this and are referrring to it as criminality on a massive scale. so many people are now long term unemployed. they cannot do anything for their families. they have no hope.

since the crisis in 2008 colleges across the planet are also pouring out young people who have no futures , no career prospects. when these people get involved , thats when the real trouble will start.

this might be a flash in the pan but its an example of whats coming down the road. especially seeing the last week or two in the markets.

reply to post by alfa1


If I bother to copy, paste and bold it then you probably ASSume that I did read it.

reply to post by deltaboy


A revolution? L.O.L.

A revolution usually has deeper purpose than the selfish, childish behavior that is currently occurring in the UK. If this is caused by economic hardship, and I'm not saying that it isn't playing some role.. I would like to know how attacking those that are in the same boat as the rioters is really helping the situation.

I want to get things for free to .

but I am not going to do this.

the haves and have nots is nothing more than perception.

kids will be kids. i say let thenm run their course then line em up and shoot them

edit:

as an example of how not to behave.

you can not go around destroying things and stealing that are not your own. people are gonna get pissed

reply to post by deltaboy


Are you from the UK? Have you been watching BBC and SKY? This is no Revolution.

I suggest you watch this.

reply to post by woodwardjnr


Criminality on a massive scale? Sounds similar to what happened in Egypt with the riots. Back then Mubarak call them that.

This is no way, shape or form any kind of Revolution.

It is a case of young opportunist criminals from the "underprivelidged" areas of the UK using a tragic shooting as an umbrella to excuse them lining their pockets at the detriment of all the normal hard working tax payers that pretty much support them in the first place.

There is no political agenda, it is literally just a case of extreme freeloading and pure criminality.

reply to post by deltaboy

When I grew up in the UK we had a lot less wealth than these young people but we didn't burn the place down or mug people for their clothes. These A-holes are spoiled gangster brats who targeted all the goody shops where they could acquire a new cellphones, i pads and designer gear.

The good people of the UK would not do this to there own country. If anything, it is a result of molly coddling and over the top political correctness. If these people where for real they would be after the government, not luxury items.

reply to post by woodwardjnr


Yup, it's criminal to cut services and pay in order to try to stimulate higher consumption.

Oh, you meant the people rioting? Yeah, guess that's criminal too. But as we in America have proven since the 60's, waving a sign and singing a song doesn't get anyone to actually give a flying fork at a rolling donut, does it?

reply to post by deltaboy


Look at the video above. This is no Arab spring, but a British summer of mass criminality.

reply to post by deltaboy


Revolution?

More like:

- a permanent curfew put in place after these riots are over
- police given more outrageous laws to arrest innocent people against their will (but they already do that anyway I guess)
- Multiculturism will take the blame. Rise of the idiotic far right again. That reminds me, where is the EDL to protect England?

Pathetic.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
This is not a revolution, please stop calling it one. It is criminality on a massive scale. Criminal opportunism taking advantage of the situation. A real break down in moral's an values. This is not the rise of the masses, but an out pouring of criminality.

Exactly. These are not young people motivated by the possibility of change and a utopian future, they are motivated purely by greed and the sense of power that violence gives them.

The pictures show young working class people attacking other young working class people. Around the corner someone is probably doing the same to their brother or sister. They are even forcing people to strip in the streets and taking their clothes!

These scumbags are the lowest ebb of humanity that haven't the intelligence to realise that #ting on your own doorstep will not get you anywhere. Mean while the criminals at the top of the foodchain continue as normal.

Unfortunately the people of the UK that may be capable of changing things have fallen into a state of brain dead apathy.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
This is not a revolution, please stop calling it one. It is criminality on a massive scale. Criminal opportunism taking advantage of the situation. A real break down in moral's an values. This is not the rise of the masses, but an out pouring of criminality.

It seems to me like this uprising must have been motivated and driven into manifestation by a force greater than the greed of a criminal. The criminal activity is merely a predictable side-effect, criminals will exploit any situation like this to commit crime. The media will play it out like the whole thing is a bunch of criminals on a rampage, which is most likely far from the truth.

reply to post by DrHammondStoat


So in other words, they are behaving like the wealthy, except they lack the state sanction to do so.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by deltaboy

 

Are you from the UK? Have you been watching BBC and SKY? This is no Revolution.

I suggest you watch this.

Do it for a cause. Fight for a f--king cause. Everybody has a different method of instigating a revolution. Even the American revolution there were Patriots and Loyalists. Everybody will disagree.