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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by Wyn Hawks

Originally posted by kalunom
we, as a country DID elect him (conspiracies aside here). And we, as Americans, ought to support one another in that choice. Come 2012, we can make another choice, but in the here and now, we need to be one. Solid. Whole. A nation working together.


...is this where we all start singing kumbaya?...


Originally posted by kalunom
We all have a family member who does things we would never do, but in the thick of it all, we will stand up for that family member against all odds...just because they are family.


...there is nothing in your above paragraph that i agree with...


Originally posted by kalunom
WE ARE A FAMILY AMERICA....and we need to get together and support each other. Even those we disagree with.


...you must be a sweet person - very naive too...


A fine job of saying nothing. Bravo. Kumbaya.




posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by kalunom


Not supporting him now does nothing. He WILL remain President until, at least, January 2013 and standing in place against all his policies and ideas will go nowhere. He has made that clear (much to mine and many others' chagrine). So....he IS our POTUS. Let's let him rule as such. Let's support him to the fullest extent we are able. Let's go for it all...let him have his time. Let's be Americans and just &&&&####'n go for it.

We need it. Now.


He works for us, thus he should be doing what we believe is best, not what he thinks is best. If we disapprove of his actions he should be changing them, rather than having them reinforced.

One should never sit down and shut up in America, do demand such is the definition of unamerican.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:17 PM
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Does not matter if we support him and his idea's or not............................

No matter how insane they are...

first thing we need to understand here, the government was not designed to make money... Ever... Ever ever.....

Also what is there to support?

he has priors of having no good ideas, on how to fix our economic problems, also seems to be outta touch with main street, and his obama care idea is a complete failure... I do not want to be dependent on a system, or his idea, to have me dependent on his idea's.

So NO I support him as in he is the commander in cheif, but I do not like his Socialistic Mussolini, idea's..

Lets not forget here, He and his party, and the Republicans have put this country in this position, you and I, and themselves in this stupid, I mean stupid we are in.......


edit on 8-8-2011 by Bicent76 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:17 PM
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First of all, Obama is loking like a coward. What happened to all the changes he was going to make, turn washington around blah bla bla. First off, He need to grow some balls and be a LEADER.
Here is what yo do.
1. STOP the bloody spending (not a hard concept).
2.America has to start making stuff again, we were the best at making stuff back in the day. We consume ALOT, yet china or some 3rd world county makes everything!
3.Bring our troops home right now! That is just a money pit that we will never fix. They been fighting since the begining of time, what makes you think they will stop now?
4.End the fed
5. ALL the current politicians should be hung for treason, and average joes should be put in power.
6.Legalization of cannibis.

---------OR-----------
The south should seced again. I believe we could win this time.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:18 PM
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Imagine a country where, whomsoever we elect, we all stand behind to the fullest extent of each of our own personal ability. No matter whether we agree or disagree, no matter how insane or mundane the ideas of this person.

They are elected. And we stand behind them. They serve their term(s) and we move on. We MOVE ON.

This would be a great America.

We would make mistakes and plenty of them, but we would stand behind and with those mistakes just as we would stand with our great achievements.

We have lost something great in America, and I feel this is it. We no longer stand by one another.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by kalunom
No matter whether we agree or disagree, no matter how insane or mundane the ideas of this person.


I recall a man by the name of Adolf who was appeased relentlessly until a World War finally put him and his followers back into their places.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by kalunom
reply to post by kro32
 


You're right of course, and what I say above goes both ways. I would like the President to see the wishes of the people as much as I would the people to see his. But, in the end, he IS the POTUS and, when decisions are made, we ought to rally around them.

Again kro 32 you have driven me to replying.

I for one did not vote for him or his "hope and change"("fundamentally changing America"platform.); nor could I get any of "you guys" (supporters)"to give me a rational explanation of what that even meant in no uncertain terms:
I found his empty suit telling you what you wanted to hear in vague uncertain terms insulting. Along with the mass mob psychosis: "yes we can" chanting.Our problems coming out of the bush years (nofan since the "patriot "act) were more challenging and required more thought than a middle school pep rally cheer!

I.E."Hope" for what?"Change" from what to what"?. I believe installing him and his extremist cabinet into the wh was a grave mistake.( one I hold all o'bots responsible for).Yes the choices sucked at the time. I believe he was hand fed to us.

He is "potus"(not"king") and as such he deserves what he accrues as a public servant and" "steward" of the office for 4 years.)
we are under no obligation to support policies we believe detrimental to the policies that made this country the global superpower that it was.

So lets all sit around watch the ship go down inflames and sing "kumbaya"? Not a chance.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by kalunom
Imagine a country where, whomsoever we elect, we all stand behind to the fullest extent of each of our own personal ability. No matter whether we agree or disagree, no matter how insane or mundane the ideas of this person.

They are elected. And we stand behind them. They serve their term(s) and we move on. We MOVE ON.

This would be a great America.

We would make mistakes and plenty of them, but we would stand behind and with those mistakes just as we would stand with our great achievements.

We have lost something great in America, and I feel this is it. We no longer stand by one another.


this is my last response because you are not reading,or listening to what we are trying to explain...

A genius learns from other people's mistakes.....


edit on 8-8-2011 by Bicent76 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:22 PM
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I, personally, know and feel all that is 'wrong' with the current president and I can sit here and point them all out along with you all. But what of it?

Maybe like Anon I can disrupt some websites?

Maybe I can post some oddball YouTube videos?

Maybe I can host a Tea Party and support some other candidate for a year and a half in the future?

Maybe, just maybe, I can live in the now and support my President and, perhaps, accomplish something.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:27 PM
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So if the country elects a guy wearing a clown suit, I'm supposed to just go along with it?

What we really did was elect a puppet in a man's suit. I will not support him, at all. He is a puppet for the corporate interests that actually run this country so therefore deserves no respect.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:29 PM
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I do not talk of compromise. I talk of support.

Our President is not a thief, that is just inflammatory talk and argument.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by kalunom
A fine job of saying nothing. Bravo. Kumbaya.


...oh, you want me to say something more substantial?...
...okay, no problemo...



Originally posted by kalunom
We all have a family member who does things we would never do, but in the thick of it all, we will stand up for that family member against all odds...just because they are family.


...explain the rationale behind your comments up there cuz all i see is someone who will stand up for a family member no matter what and they think thats the right thing to do...

...maybe you have exceptions - like, if a family member was charged with murdering two people - would you stand up for them, against all odds, in spite of all the facts that proves beyond a shadow of doubt that they willfully and with malice of forethought killed two innocent people?...



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by TheLoony
reply to post by kalunom
 


So if the country elects a guy wearing a clown suit, I'm supposed to just go along with it?

What we really did was elect a puppet in a man's suit. I will not support him, at all. He is a puppet for the corporate interests that actually run this country so therefore deserves no respect.


Are you a part of this country? Are you an American?

You hold beliefs that exclude you from being a part of the electoral process. I don't hold this against you, I actually empathize with such beliefs. But, at the end of the day, we are where we are. And Obama is at the head of our country. Respect him or not, would it not be better, for our country as a whole, if we were all behind him?



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:37 PM
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Yes, I would stand up for said family member...even if they were portrayed as the most terrible murderous person on the planet.

Why you ask? Why on earth would I ever stand up for a murderer? (mind you, this is YOUR extreme example of things).... Well, I would stand up for them because they are family. And, even were this the case...I AM their family, and as such, I am quite close to them. I would do anything I could to vindicate/absolve them.

Ever hear of a thing called 'duty'?

I know, it's a dirty word these days, but, I think people need to hear it.

We have a duty.

It may be dirty. But it's time.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:38 PM
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Originally posted by kalunom
Imagine a country where, whomsoever we elect, we all stand behind to the fullest extent of each of our own personal ability. No matter whether we agree or disagree, no matter how insane or mundane the ideas of this person.

They are elected. And we stand behind them. They serve their term(s) and we move on. We MOVE ON.

This would be a great America.

We would make mistakes and plenty of them, but we would stand behind and with those mistakes just as we would stand with our great achievements.

We have lost something great in America, and I feel this is it. We no longer stand by one another.


I would much rather imagine an America where we elect someone that chooses to do the jobs we have hired them to do...someone that deserved our RESPECT and prior to/after election told the TRUTH about what was asked of them.

Just imagine someone like that carrying out the wishes of WE the PEOPLE...

Now THAT would be a GREAT AMERICA.

edit on 8-8-2011 by Holly N.R.A. because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:40 PM
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We do not live in a Kingdom.

This is the United States, We do not “rally” around our President. If anything the President is the scrape-goat.

In times of National distress we may “rally” around the Flag, but never the President.

Congress has refused to do their job for a very long time. It is Congress who holds the purse in this country and they are the ones who have allowed the Bankers and Special Interest to rob the Nation’s Treasury.

If Congress did not want us in this position we would not be in this position.

No matter what they say, we are exactly right where they intend for us to be. The Congress has the power to change this tomorrow if they so desired to do so, and tomorrow evening we will find that they do not intend to change the course we are on.

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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:52 PM
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Concerning the question:
"would it not be better, for our country as a whole, if we were all behind him?"

Yes it would be, if we were chasing him out of the country. Let's all get behind our President for some real "hope and change"!

See ya, Milt



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by kalunom
reply to post by Wyn Hawks
 


Yes, I would stand up for said family member...even if they were portrayed as the most terrible murderous person on the planet.


...imo, only those with no integrity would do that, which explains why you are cheerleading for a person with no integrity, not to mention a system that has no integrity...

..."call of duty" means doing what is best for your country... suggesting that we all come together and support thugs is not in the best interest of our country...



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 12:08 AM
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I seem to remember something from the neo-cons re: if you criticize a standing president when we are at war you are not a patriot....guess that was only for the neo-con president...

CJ



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 12:10 AM
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If you don't believe every president since Kennedy has been on the payroll, you are living in a fantasy land. Doesn't matter who takes office now - it's over...

CJ




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