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You are I believe trying to make out that I am intentionally deceiving people, no that's ironic
Originally posted by jpsolas
reply to post by network dude
Well I am very happy to see we agree on something! I think that both Freemasonry AND Religions pevert the Bible. Let me ask you this, honestly ... who is the Worshipful Master... consider these words outside a masonic context before you answer.
And I don't mean to offend but I have to be blunt, I don't think that the real Freemasons, those who are really in the know would be frequenting conspiracy forums. What was that old one: "those who know don't speak, those who speak don't know" - Just one more thing Morals and Dogma was never intended to be available to the public but you can now access it online, the ball of secrets and deceit is unraveling quite rapidly now, and it seems that there are none more deceived than lower initiate Masons as they are being tricked into lucifer worship. It would be folly for any Mason below the 31st degree to believe that they know more than Pike did, that they know better than he did and they don't need any non-masons trying to tell them otherwise. Well, that's quite sad. The evidence is there if you care to see it.
J.P. Solas -
The teachings of these Readings are not sacramental, so far as they go beyond the realm of Morality into those of other domains of Thought and Truth. The Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite uses the word "Dogma" in its true sense, of doctrine, or teaching; and is not dogmatic in the odious sense of that term. Every one is entirely free to reject and dissent from whatsoever herein may seem to him to be untrue or unsound. It is only required of him that he shall weigh what is taught, and give it fair hearing and unprejudiced judgment.
"Swear no oaths, not even to me."
Secondly, if a man joins up, but doesn't fully appreciate what he's getting involved with, maybe he's joining to make business connections, further his career or to get away from the wife for a couple of hours a week, he might swear this oath on his lips but not mean it in his heart, he might be doing it vainly just to get in.
but I do think that freemasonry was infiltrated centuries ago and it has been used to decieve good upstanding men (and women) by diverting their worship away from the real worshipful master (false Gods before me?).
Originally posted by jpsolas
Genesis says that Satan told Adam and Eve...
Originally posted by John_Rodger_Cornman
Why do masons get angry at people researching their beliefs?
Whats the problem? Its not like your disrespecting them or anything.
originally posted by: FortAnthem
reply to post by John_Rodger_Cornman
I think they get angry when someone posts a thread making unfounded accusations against their order.
If you post a thread honestly seeking information about the order without the accusations and are willing to accept their answers as sincere and honest, they can be quite pleasant and forthcoming.
As long as you are willing to listen to what they say with an open mind, they aren't that bad.
The tough part is trying to figure out all their inside jokes.
edit on 8/8/11 by FortAnthem because: