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Originally posted by getreadyalready
Grand Lodge of British Columbia
I don't know about any symbolism from the coffin, although it would make sense with some of our degree work. According to the link above it is a symbol of mortality.
ETA:
They have a cool anti-Masonry tab, where they refute many of the most popular bogus claims!edit on 28-6-2012 by getreadyalready because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by no1smootha
My Lodge uses a coffin at exactly the same moment your's uses the mat Getready, just as you thought. It is discussed in the monitors of mainstream Freemasonry, but it is rarely actually used there.
Originally posted by FriedBabelBroccoli
The Romans regarded Saturn as the original and autochthonous ruler of the Capitolium,[64] and the first king of Latium or even the whole of Italy.
Definition of AUTOCHTHONOUS
1
a : indigenous or endemic to a region b : contracted in the area where reported
2
: originated in that part of the body where found—used chiefly of pathological conditions
—au·toch·tho·nous·ly adverb
Autochthonous, or indigenism, ethnic nationalism promoting the identity of an indigenous people
Stop digging.
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by no1smootha
My Lodge uses a coffin at exactly the same moment your's uses the mat Getready, just as you thought. It is discussed in the monitors of mainstream Freemasonry, but it is rarely actually used there.
In my jurisdiction it only appears in the Master Mason lecture as a symbol of mortality.
Originally posted by FriedBabelBroccoli
You quote later tradition which was predated by the Saturn founding.
How about you take your own advice and not rewrite history by omission.
Is that a threat?
Originally posted by FriedBabelBroccoli
First its not a symbol...
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by FriedBabelBroccoli
First its not a symbol...
Masonic ritual is not the same from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. New Jersey uses one of the oldest and it is very different from Massachusetts which is almost as old. I almost could not follow parts of their ritual when I saw it.
Originally posted by FriedBabelBroccoli
And Saturn's temple was always at the base of the mountain, before Zeus ever arrived.
Originally posted by Murmoshka
Guy, because they are ruled by CIA!!!
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli
Look, you are welcome to come by my lodge and look for a coffin. I will even show you our slide show for our lectures. I am a lot of things, but a liar is not one of them. Either prove me wrong, or let it go.edit on 29-6-2012 by network dude because: you are pissing me off
Textreply to post by getreadyalready
My Lodge uses a coffin at exactly the same moment your's uses the mat Getready, just as you thought. It is discussed in the monitors of mainstream Freemasonry, but it is rarely actually used there.
-no1smootha
"The Devil" is, historically, the God of any people that one personally dislikes. This has led to so much confusion of thought that THE BEAST 666 has preferred to let names stand as they are, and to proclaim simply that AIWAZ — the solar-phallic-hermetic "Lucifer" is His own Holy Guardian Angel, and "The Devil" SATAN or HADIT of our particular unit of the Starry Universe.
This serpent, SATAN, is not the enemy of Man, but He who made Gods of our race, knowing Good and Evil; He bade "Know Thyself!" and taught Initiation.
He is "the Devil" of the Book of Thoth, and His emblem is BAPHOMET, the Androgyne who is the hieroglyph of arcane perfection. The number of His Atu is XV, which is Yod He, the Monogram of the Eternal, the Father one with the Mother, the Virgin Seed one with all-containing Space. He is therefore Life, and Love.
But moreover his letter is Ayin, the Eye; he is Light, and his Zodiacal image is Capricornus, that leaping goat whose attribute is Liberty.
(Note that the "Jehovah" of the Hebrews is etymologically connected with these. The classical example of such antinomy, one which has led to such disastrous misunderstandings, is that between NU and HAD, North and South, Jesus and John. The subject is too abstruse and complicated to be discussed in detail here. The student should consult the writings of Sir R. Payne Knight, General Forlong, Gerald Massey, Fabre d'Olivet; etc. etc., for the data on which these considerations are ultimately based.)
-Crowley
The letter name is derived from Proto-Semitic *ʿayn- "eye", and the Phoenician letter had an eye-shape, ultimately derived from the ı͗r hieroglyph
D4
. To this day, 'ayin in Hebrew, Arabic and Maltese means "eye" (‘ayno in Assyrian).
Your eye is the Ayin, the light bearer, the Capricorn (sea-goat) who initiates one into self-knowledge and made men into gods, or in modernity good men better.
The goat ruled by Saturn who bears a hexagram on its pole and is representative of the cube, or square which you masons so often go by.
The G between your compass representing "deity" or geometry, the art used to describe and commune with said "deity."
Luke 22:44 (KJV) And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground
Hebrews 5:7-9 (KJV)
7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;
8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
Luke 19:41,42
As he approached Jerusalem and saw the city, he wept over it and said, "If you, even you, had only known on this day what would bring you peace—but now it is hidden from your eyes.