Magistrate Judge Orders Hawaii Health Officials to Appear in Court to Explain Obama's Birth Records

No way i'd ever run for any office, its the hugest invasion of privacy EVAR! Mud slinging and digging for dirt started in the early 1800's. Its petty and immature to dig up dirt on people as an effort to undermine their ability to lead. This is tantamount to a pair of 5 year olds fighting over transformer toys or G.I. Joes. You got people illegally wire tapping your phones or using listening devices, people with camera's watching your bathroom everytime you go to take a crap so they can post the color and shape of your feces, oh and don't forget the sex scandals. if you've ever had promiscuos sex or a one night stand, they will even have that to throw against you. Ever tapped your feet in boredom as you were taking a dump? Oops, thats the signal for soliciting sex from the cop who happens to be taking a piss next to you!

No, running for office is a witch hunt. Look at Bill Clintons "my friends were smoking weed, i was in the room with them, but i didnt inhale!" Right, THC doesnt show up in your bloodstream UNLESS you inhale, you cant get it just from being in the same room holding your breath. Lets not forget how he got busted for getting a BJ in the oval office despite the fact that JFK and almost every other president b4 him did that and alot more. Running for office is a media circus and you end up in the clown act if you run. See all those clowns piling out of that tiny car? Those are really politicians!

BEST news ever!!!
Go Orly!

reply to post by kozmo


Obamacare isnt all bad, it has its good points, like how health insurance companies cant screw people with pre-existing conditions, people like ME who have pre-existing conditions and have to pay for ALL of my medical care with no help from health insurance even though im paying 500 bucks a month for it...forget that little detail? Well millions of americans who have pre-existing conditions which their health insurance refuses to cover HAVENT.

LEAVE OBAMA ALONE!
Where's Chris Crocker when you need him.

How much longer are these guys going to beat a dead horse. The carcass is pretty flat by now.

Originally posted by kozmo

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Rofl, Taitz. Why is she bothering to persue this? His term is almost over and he most likely wont get another term. Pointless. However i have included a link to yourtube where Dylan Ratigan came close to cursing her out around the time Obama was elected. See this and laugh at his reaction. Look on Ratigans face

RICELESS.

www.youtube.com...

This is from like 2008 i believe, enjoy the laugh!

Why is she persueing[sic] this? Because EVERY SINGLE THING that this man has done will be null and void. No Obamacare, no millions of dictatorial... er, I mean Executive Orders, etc... ALL of it undone. I am only hopeful that much of the damage created by this imposter can undone as well!

Wishful thinking.

Why is "Obamacare" so bad again?

It seems to save the gov tons of money, forces responsibility into the insurance industry and created an actual capitalist based market?

If your answer is socialism, then what the hell do you think of the bill of rights and the constitution.

Plus unlike the horror stories us Americans here about Socialized health care, it actually is a decent system that works.

Why don't you shove your one sided argument up your backside and be a little reasonable.

Obama is not the center of the issues in this country.

Originally posted by TrueAmerican

California attorney Orly Taitz today secured an order from United States District Court Magistrate Judge Richard L. Puglisi demanding representatives of the Hawaii Department of Health appear in federal court Sept. 14 to show why Taitz should be prevented from seeing whatever original 1961 documents the agency has on record regarding Barack Obama's birth.

Taitz returned to federal court in Honolulu today after Hawaii DOH officials presented her with a letter refusing to comply with her subpoena on grounds that Hawaii privacy laws prevented officials from releasing Obama birth records to the public.

"It's ridiculous," Taitz told WND.

She had argued previously – without getting a response from the state – that Obama had waived all privacy rights by releasing his long-form birth certificate to the American public at a White House press conference April 27.

The ExParte Emergency Motion for Order to Show Cause and to Compel Attendance for Production of Documents that Taitz filed with the federal magistrate asked the court to demand Hawaii DOH head Loretta Fuddy appear in court to explain why she would not comply with the subpoena.

"Getting a federal judge to demand Fuddy's attendance at a show-cause hearing is a victory," Taitz said. "I will return to Hawaii on Sept. 14 and I expect then to be able to force the Hawaii DOH to turn over the relevant records as demanded by the subpoena."

www.wnd.com...

Also see:
www.orlytaitzesq.com...

Here, let me save you all the posts:
"The wacko Orly's at it again."

"It will never go anywhere."
"It's all lies."
"There's no evidence."

ETC. ETC. ETC.

Everyone calls her nuts, but I'll be damned if she hasn't stirred up the pot enough to get a judge to issue a subpoena for the Hawaii officials to appear in court!

Cause it's time to explain why Orly was not allowed to examine Obama's records, when clearly he already waived privacy rights by releasing the forged BC.

I had reported a while back on the subpoena that was denied by Fuddy. Everyone called me nuts too!

I say go Orly! Even if all her ducks aren't in a row, somehow they still manage to cross the road without becoming roadkill.

I am glad some people just don't give up no matter what. But on an issue like this, that's what it's going to take.

I saw how you got flamed for that, TA. I'm glad to see that both you and Orly have stuck to your guns. I was just wondering about this yesterday - thinking I'd look up to see when the deadline for presenting the bc details was due. You've done it for me. Thanks.

Originally posted by kozmo

Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
that Obama had waived all privacy rights by releasing his long-form birth certificate to the American public at a White House press conference April 27.

When did obama waive privacy rights?

he didnt, of course just some Obama haters claiming that he did!

Here, I'll answer that for you... When he released his "ALLEGED" long-form BC on the internet he gave full implied consent.

Exactly. When he made the alleged birth certificate available to the public, in a public domain, he effectively renounced and abandoned any claim to right to privacy.

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That could have been accomplished by a simple legislative ruling. You don't cut off your head when you have a headache, do you?

Originally posted by mudbeed

Originally posted by kozmo

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Rofl, Taitz. Why is she bothering to persue this? His term is almost over and he most likely wont get another term. Pointless. However i have included a link to yourtube where Dylan Ratigan came close to cursing her out around the time Obama was elected. See this and laugh at his reaction. Look on Ratigans face

RICELESS.

www.youtube.com...

This is from like 2008 i believe, enjoy the laugh!

Why is she persueing[sic] this? Because EVERY SINGLE THING that this man has done will be null and void. No Obamacare, no millions of dictatorial... er, I mean Executive Orders, etc... ALL of it undone. I am only hopeful that much of the damage created by this imposter can undone as well!

Wishful thinking.

Why is "Obamacare" so bad again?

It seems to save the gov tons of money, forces responsibility into the insurance industry and created an actual capitalist based market?

If your answer is socialism, then what the hell do you think of the bill of rights and the constitution.

Plus unlike the horror stories us Americans here about Socialized health care, it actually is a decent system that works.

Why don't you shove your one sided argument up your backside and be a little reasonable.

Obama is not the center of the issues in this country.

Let's break donw your rant...

So, in your opinion, a program that COSTS trillions in new spending over the next 10 years is a "Savings"? And forced private expenditures under the threat of new taxes in Capitalism?
And Socialized Medicine works? Let's see some examples of the success of this system, shall we?

Pa tients Forced to Live in Agony...
Rationing Care...
Another...

I could on and on and on and on posting links for hours on the failure of Socialized medicine. The only people who appear to support it are those who simply refuse to take personal responsibility and believe that they are entitled to something from someone else.

So, I've nothing to "Shove up my backside", except perhaps FACTS... something that I am quite certain you would love to have disappear. Because it those pesky FACTS that continue to destroy your selfish little arguments and make your pointless ad hominems look like final acts of desperation.

Thanks for playing and do try again. Now need to go away mad, but please do go away!

Originally posted by kozmo
The only people who appear to support it are those who simply refuse to take personal responsibility and believe that they are entitled to something from someone else.

That's BS. My son-in-law is Canadian. He and his entire family are completely supportive of Socialized Medicine. They think us Americans are crazy for fighting it.

They are not irresponsible people. They pay a lot of taxes to have this medical care. As much as they complain about the taxes - - - they fully support what it provides in medical care.

Anyone can find individual horror stories to support any position they choose to take. There are certainly plenty horror stories in America from lack of medical care.

Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
that Obama had waived all privacy rights by releasing his long-form birth certificate to the American public at a White House press conference April 27.

When did obama waive privacy rights?

the moment he publicly, internationally and intentionally released falsified info on the internet.
and some will say, 'his campaign did it' ... and while that may be true, it only happened WITH his approval, period.
Sure hope the Hawaiian officials don't encounter an 'accident' between now and then.

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Annee,

Then why do Canadians come to the US for medical procedures that they were denied in Canada? Look, what I've pointed out are hardly "isolated incidences" but systemic FAILURES occurring within the system because the COST of running the system can no longer be supported. As a result, RATIONING occurs. That means some arbitrary government official gets to determine if you get treatment or not. No thank you!

Now, BACk TO THE TOPIC OF THE THREAD! I am most interested in hearing the testimony of those called before the magistrate.

Obamas a scumbag and needs castrated, hes already screwed the american people to the point of no return, at least for the sake of revenge its confirmed hes a poser and a threat to national security and they lock his ass up

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completely off topic,,,,
I love your avatar!!!! Made me do a double take

Originally posted by kozmo
reply to post by Annee

 

Annee,

Then why do Canadians come to the US for medical procedures that they were denied in Canada? Look, what I've pointed out are hardly "isolated incidences" but systemic FAILURES occurring within the system because the COST of running the system can no longer be supported. As a result, RATIONING occurs. That means some arbitrary government official gets to determine if you get treatment or not. No thank you!

Now, BACk TO THE TOPIC OF THE THREAD! I am most interested in hearing the testimony of those called before the magistrate.

You are choosing to focus on one aspect. How many go abroad compared to those who support the Socialized Medicine?

Selectivism - - only supports that which is selected as a position. Resulting in distortion by excluding all other aspects.

Why does anyone go abroad to get medical care?

You do know about Medical Tourism - - don't you?

Medical Tourism Statistics and Facts

An Essential Fact Sheet and Guide on Medical Tourism Statistics

Over the last few years, a new trend in the healthcare industry known as Medical Tourism, is gaining popularity among highly industrialized countries like the United States. Varying reports containing medical tourism statistics put the number of American patients seeking healthcare abroad between 500,000 to 750,000 in 2007. This is a steady increase from the previous year, which medical experts believe to have been as much as 200,000 to half a million Americans traveled out of the country for medical procedures.

These figures indicate a significant growth in the Medical Tourism industry, currently a $20 billion market, which could reach $100 billion by 2012. In 2008, it is estimated that approximately 1.3 million Americans traveled abroad to seek healthcare and this figure is expected to double by 2010. While exact statistics for medical tourism are difficult to confirm, these estimations indicate a strong potential for medical tourism in the future.

www.health-tourism.com...

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Annee,

With all due respect, I am done derailing the thread. Please open another thread or resurrect one of the billions of others on the matter and we can have a spirited debate there.

The topic of this thread is "Magistrate Judge Orders Hawaii Health Officials to Appear in Court to Explain Obama's Birth Records" and I'm going to stick to that topic. And again, I applaud this Judge and anxiously await the outcome of the hearing.

cant they just frame the book holding his birth certificate open at his page and let everyone who wants to see it just walk past and take a look, once its seen to be genuine/fake it'll lose all interest

We will see how this plays out.

If it was a Republican the liberals and their main stream media lackeys would be all over it.

Hawaii has always been barely a state.

It had only been a state for a few years when Obama was born.

All those territories administer their own governments both at the state and federal level.

Guam is just as bad with their policies of following rules.

My wife's visa application was approved to come to the USA on 12/25/85.

Christmas day.

If you think Hawaii and it officials can not be corrupted consider this.

There is historical evidence that Hawaiian birth certificates can be procured by those who were not even born there.

Lets use this man as an example Sun Yat-sen.

During the First Sino-Japanese War, Sun went to the Republic of Hawaii in October 1894 and founded the Revive China Society to unveil the goal of a prospering China and as the platform for future revolutionary activities. Members were drawn mainly from Chinese expatriates and from the lower social classes. In March 1904, Sun Yat-sen obtained a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, issued by the Territory of Hawaii, stating he was born on November 24, 1870 in Kula, Maui. Official files of the United States show that Sun had United States nationality, moved to China with his family at age 4, and returned to Hawaii 10 years later.

So,is Obama's birth certificate legit?

When I was the military years ago I was good friends with a young man named Brad,

At one point in time Brad told me that everybody thought he was 19 when he was actually only 18.

He explained to me his mom was a single mother and she obtained a birth certificate showing he was one year younger so she could receive benefits from the government for him a year longer.

Brad was actually born in California in 1957 but his mom was able to get an official birth certificate with a "bogus" birth date of 1958 because she and Brad had moved to Hawaii when he was young.

Because of the remoteness of the islands many people have birth certificates that are not verified because they were not born in a hospital.

All you have to have is a person stating they were there for the birth to make it legit.

Even the U.S. has that policy.

Another person I know had the same situation because he was born on a reservation.

He had a problem entering the military because the person entering his birth certificate in to the county records, recorded his sex as female instead of male.

He had to "prove" he was a male!

I have in my possession two "official" birth certificates for my wife who was born in the Philippines.

Both show the same page,same line in the same book as where the information was taken from.

One shows her birthdate as 25 June 1960.

The other shows 25 July 1959!

This person who is in the White House has many things to hide.

A birth certificate he does not want anyone to see.A SS# that is proven to be from a state he never lived in.

Sealed college records.Visits to countries that at the time he visited were not approve for travel by the State Department.

Lets find the truth not a fabricated truth but the truth.

We will never see the records. They will mysteriously be unable to find them if ultimately forced to produce.
Just like all his educational records- think, Obama sycophants- do you think for one minute that any record that put Obama in a positive light would be withheld?? I guess those academic results were (obviously) quite poor, even by affirmative action standards.

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It had only been a state for a few years when Obama was born.

actually, Hawaii became a state barely 18 months earlier ... not even 2 years old.

All those territories administer their own governments both at the state and federal level.

perhaps before statehood but once in the union fold, Hawaii govt procedures often mirrored those of California.
Their methods of record-keeping have changed. often rapidly and frequently over the past 50 yrs thus making island births, those occurring outside a hospital setting, very difficult to track or even prove they occurred, let alone verify. but, this was the policy of the day.

It has been made painfully clear that Obama was not born in any island hospital ... he lied.
It has been made repeatedly clear that multiple birth notices provided to date are horribly inadequate for proving anything ... he tried.
but the more he tries, the more his lies are revealed ... may the truth finally prevail !!!