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Pure Racial Hatred, 7 White Teens Vs. 1 Black Man (caught on tape)

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posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:18 AM
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I love how you're cherry-picking my words. Taking them out of context without my full statements in order to prove your point. Absolute hilarity. You completely ignored the other things in order to make me look bad
. I'm saying things that you don't like, of course that makes me a racist.




posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:19 AM
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I kind of see where you're going here. Unfortunately, this story doesn't mention the races of the officers involved and frankly, I don't give a hoot a death by murder is just that murder regardless of skin color.


Thank you, I agree with that 100 percent. That's the same thing I said initially, it's just that some people felt the need to have a race argument with me over it. So I'll say this one more time for the people that don't quite understand where I'm coming from and wish to call me a racist due to the fact that I'm saying things they don't like. Racially motivated violence is deplorable regardless of race.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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Many of the responses in this thread are deeply saddening to me, and in my personal opinion go right to the heart of why such crimes are still with us today. All that matters is that a man was evidently beaten and then run over, in my opinion. No one can successfully argue to me that that is acceptable or justifiable.

Rather than focusing on this, however, many in this topic have chosen to take up the old arguments of what constitutes a hate crime, which "race" is the greater victim, and which "race" is most racist. That people in this day and age still feel that there is any difference between a "black" victim and a "white" victim at all is the very crux of the problem in my opinion.

Hate exists. Brutality exists. Violence exists. Racism exists. Many "isms" exist. Those who administer them have many justifications for their actions. Sometimes it will be because you're "black." Sometimes it will be because you're "white." Sometimes it will be because they just don't like you. Sometimes it will be because you're poor. Sometimes it will even be because you're rich. The one thing all of these unjustifiable justifications have in common is that they seek to excuse or provide basis for violence against and/or the suffering of human beings, full stop.

That we, in 2011, and sitting here splitting hairs over which human beings are more victimized by such acts or more responsible for such acts, rather than sitting here unified and saying simply, "that was wrong and my heart goes out to his loved ones" is at the very heart of the - in my opinion artificial - racial divisions in our collective culture as a nation (and a world.)

Now, I know not everyone feels this way. I understand and respect that. But in my opinion shared human heritage and commonalities should supercede individual ethnic or cultural heritage. "Separate but equal" just leads to more "separate" and less "equal" in my opinion. I feel that we need to move toward, "Unified and equal."

Just my two cents. Peace.
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posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:27 AM
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This was a racial crime people. They specifically said NIGGER. Being half black half white I see things differently than most. It's funny people don't remember the civil rights act was just signed in 1964; this event doesn't surprise me at all. My dad, a white man who married a black woman, was 7 years old when that was signed. Hatred hasn't had enough generations to fully leave.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by kaiode1
I'm saying things that you don't like, of course that makes me a racist.


How am I cherry picking? What did I miss? Perhaps point it out. Did you not say, that it wouldn't qualify as a "hate crime" if the cops were white? That's racism. Please...bend the logic for us, to make that idea non-racist. I'd love to see it. Explain how that beating wasn't hateful. You also blew it off as crazy, that the black community would be angry about the beating death of a white man at the hands of the cops, when they show absolute outrage and take to the streets when the cops beat a black man. That's not unity, at all. So, while you're pointing out all the racism that exists in this country, don't act like you're not part of it.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
Funny stuff,.
thanks for posting,.
makes me laugh at the OP.. thank you..
Yeah I remember last week thursday when "hundreds" of AFRICAN AMERICANS were beating up
on WHITE people randomly in one night..
Yeah.. yer funny



Originally posted by ProphecyPhd What does that have to do with this thread



my guess as to what this has to do with your thread would probably be when you said:


Originally posted by ProphecyPhD
When does this sort of thing happen to a "White Guy"



lol i knew as soon as i read the title who was posting this.

when does this happen to a white guy? this has happened to me twice in highschool, and yes all 6 were black. but im sure you will probably think it was because i had it coming (much like the place i couldn't eat at was just because it was over crowded not because i was blatantly being ignored) and not because i was white.

you seem to think this type of thing only happens to black people in every post you create. there are plenty of youtube videos of black guys jumping white guys/white guys jumping blacks/blacks jumping mexicans/mexicans jumping whites etc..... just by simply looking up knock out or fight videos. but surprise surprise, you pick the idiot white TEENS (which every race has that does this kind of crap) ganging up on a black guy doing idiot teen things. granted, this was a murder, and a tragedy. no human should ever feel they have the right to take anothers life (unless maybe your this guys family and want some of your own justice on the driver).

yes we get it, racism is still all around. but your posts always tend to seem like you have an agenda and to try and miss lead and rile people up into having your mind set that we still live in the early 1900's south. get over your "white man trying to keep a black man down" mentality. clearly that is not the case these days.
edit on 9-8-2011 by Hardstepah because: spelling corrections



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by Backslider
I don't want to get in any ridiculous arguments..

Issues of racial discrimination should be brought up and discussed. This is stupidity that manifested into hatred.

I think it's poetic justice that the officer shown escorting this kid through court is black.


And each of these stupid kids should spend time in jail sharing a cell with big black guy!
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posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:34 AM
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Racial crimes are the lowest sort of crime in my opinion. What they should do is have a special prison specifically for racial crimes and put any and all found guilty of racial violence should be blinded. Cruel, but what better punishment fitting the crime...

If you are a danger to society because of how you see people physically, and the justice system is meant to lessen the chance of you being a danger to society, then clearly the punishment that fits the crime is to remove the offending sense...

Would make for a interesting world anyhow..ok, granted, its a bit extreme, but ya, such stories really get me going...and no, racism isn't the monopoly of a single ethnicity...plenty of blacks attacking whites because he is white, plenty of latino's attacking koreans, etc...its like thunderdome for the most idiotic.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by AceWombat04
Many of the responses in this thread are deeply saddening to me, and in my personal opinion go right to the heart of why such crimes are still with us today. All that matters is that a man was evidently beaten and then run over, in my opinion. No one can successfully argue to me that that is acceptable or justifiable.

Rather than focusing on this, however, many in this topic have chosen to take up the old arguments of what constitutes a hate crime, which "race" is the greater victim, and which "race" is most racist. That people in this day and age still feel that there is any difference between a "black" victim and a "white" victim at all is the very crux of the problem in my opinion.

Hate exists. Brutality exists. Violence exists. Racism exists. May "isms" exist. Those who administer them have many justifications for their actions. Sometimes it will be because you're "black." Sometimes it will be because you're "white." Sometimes it will be because they just don't like you. Sometimes it will be because you're poor. Sometimes it will even be because you're rich. The one thing all of these unjustifiable justifications have in common is that they seek to excuse or provide basis for violence against and/or the suffering of human beings, full stop.

That we, in 2011, and sitting here splitting hairs over which human beings are more victimized by such acts or more responsible for such acts, rather than sitting here unified and saying simply, "that was wrong and my heart goes out to his loved ones" is at the very heart of the - in my opinion artificial - racial divisions in our collective culture as a nation (and a world.)

Now, I know not everyone feels this way. I understand and respect that. But in my opinion shared human heritage and commonalities should supercede individual ethnic or cultural heritage. "Separate but equal" just leads to more "separate" and less "equal" in my opinion. I feel that we need to move toward, "Unified and equal."

Just my two cents. Peace.



Words fall way short in expressing how spot on you are A.W.04...

Our inability to recognize the similarities and connectedness all human beings share in having the gift of a life... and free will... and the opportunity to help others... that is the weapon that those with an agenda, at every level, from governments to ad agencies, use to subjugate the population, and turn them against each other when needed to further their agenda.

Thanks for stating it so plainly and compassionately.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:38 AM
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I'll just say, living in Texas, this is still like the Jim Crow south at times. I live in Austin, which is highly liberal, so I make it off ok out here. When I'm traveling to say Houston and I stop in a small town, you would've thought the devil himself showed up. I get followed in stores, harassed, been called a n*gger, all the while I'm a respectable young male. I don't sag, I wear my hat forward, hell, I wear Sperry's most of the time. Being black in America will always have its connotations, you can't deny the truth.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by ProphecyPhD

Originally posted by ReVoLuTiOn76
That sucks, but if it were to happen to a white guy...same thing, except it wouldn't be such a big deal.


When does this sort of thing happen to a "White Guy"


You don't go outside much, do you?



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by Scope and a Beam
Pure scum, racism has no place in this modern world. The day the racists die out for good is one I look forward to, the shame is, I doubt it's a day that will ever dawn.


They keep breeding and passing down their ignorance.

I think a good discussion to have is to open up free university for all. Education is fatal to most racists. the mind of a racist is actually a worthless feeling...since they know they cannot add anything intellectual to the world, they tend to focus on things they can hold over others...and since they accept themselves and think already they are somehow better than the rest, they take trivial matters, such as gender or skin tone to be some sort of achievement.

White power...I bet if you did a trace on the guys family tree, he would find his whiteness isn't as pure as he suspected (he is in america after all). But, I digress.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by ProphecyPhD

Originally posted by ReVoLuTiOn76
That sucks, but if it were to happen to a white guy...same thing, except it wouldn't be such a big deal.


When does this sort of thing happen to a "White Guy"


Thread

Revolution is right, If it happens to a white guy then it is not racist.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by SpaDe_

Originally posted by ProphecyPhD

Originally posted by ReVoLuTiOn76
That sucks, but if it were to happen to a white guy...same thing, except it wouldn't be such a big deal.


When does this sort of thing happen to a "White Guy"


REALLY? Are you really this ignorant?







Never happens to "White Guys".


I think the question was about when the black person gets off for doing that still to white people when they even pretty much admitted to doing it. Not about the fact that some black teenagers are capable of comitting the same types of crimes... it's about the justice afterwards.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:44 AM
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How am I cherry picking? What did I miss? Perhaps point it out. Did you not say, that it wouldn't qualify as a "hate crime" if the cops were white?


Now you know full well what I meant when I said that. If the cops were white (which I don't know if they were because the news story doesn't say) and the homeless man was white then how could that possibly constitute a hate crime? Here I'll make it easy for you sense you seem to be failing to grasp this simple concept.



Hate Crime
Noun: A crime motivated by racial, sexual, or other prejudice, typically one involving violence.


So there ya go. Unless all the cops were women, or all the cops were black (or hispanic or asian), then there's no way that could be considered a hate crime. Unless of course you have some special definition of the term that you made up yourself. Then by all means share, because we don't seem to be on the same page with this one.



Explain how that beating wasn't hateful.


Now you may have sort of a point when you take it there, but still. By definition, if the cops weren't black or women then it doesn't constitute a hate crime.




You also blew it off as crazy, that the black community would be angry about the beating death of a white man at the hands of the cops, when they show absolute outrage and take to the streets when the cops beat a black man.


You act as if that had been the first time a black man had been beaten senseless by the police. Did you miss the part where Jesse Jackson mentioned the fact that this had been going on for decades and that the black community was tired of it? They didn't march because that was the very first time a black male had been beaten by white officers, they marched because they had had enough
. It wasn't a spur of the moment "oh they beat a black man, time to take it to the streets" sort of thing. It was a "oh they beat another black man, time to take to the streets" sort of thing. Don't pretend as if this sort of thing hadn't been going on for years.

You can scream "racism" all you like, and at the end you'll still be grasping at straws

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posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by newBodyoldSoul
I'll just say, living in Texas, this is still like the Jim Crow south at times. I live in Austin, which is highly liberal, so I make it off ok out here. When I'm traveling to say Houston and I stop in a small town, you would've thought the devil himself showed up. I get followed in stores, harassed, been called a n*gger, all the while I'm a respectable young male. I don't sag, I wear my hat forward, hell, I wear Sperry's most of the time. Being black in America will always have its connotations, you can't deny the truth.


I think if your the minority in your surroundings in general, your in a precarious situation.
I used to go to school sort of close to my house. I would often miss the bus after school (because I went to smoke with friends)...and yep, had to walk home.

The most direct route led me through poor areas, and of course that means I am the minority there. I got jumped by a group of black kids...what suprised me most was I actually knew one of the guys, and knew he himself wasn't overly racist as a individual, but in his youthful group, he was playing the part.

I think the key here are idiotic groups of youth in podunk backwoods southern areas overall will harass the minority of the area, be it a white guy around black hoodrats, or a black guy around a bunch of hillbillys.

We have no issues coexisting when education and self respect is the key in the community...then we can feel good about ourselves based on who we are, and not focus on what "they" aren't



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:48 AM
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WAIT TILL THEY START HAVING TO TAKE A PISS TEST FOR WELFARE THEN U WILL SEE THE TRUE SIDE OF BLACKS THEY WILL HAVE SO MUCH BLACK ON WHITE CRIMES



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX
If you are a danger to society because of how you see people physically, and the justice system is meant to lessen the chance of you being a danger to society, then clearly the punishment that fits the crime is to remove the offending sense...


I have to strongly disagree. Many people see people with a couple nice things, and simply can't resist the urge to rob and kill them for those things. Aren't they just as much a danger to society? Violence, is violence. Motive should be irrelevant. You, like others, seem to be suggesting there should be tiers placed on violence and murder based on your personal feelings about racism. It's not illegal to be ignorant, so there shouldn't be any additional charges placed on violence done because of ignorance, rather than greed, or jealousy, etc.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:49 AM
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posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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We have no issues coexisting when education and self respect is the key in the community...then we can feel good about ourselves based on who we are, and not focus on what "they" aren't


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