Several Objects Inbound with Elenin. 2 Observatories Confirm ---- Aug 2011

reply to post by Chadwickus


Could you reply to my question about wich part of the OP would meet the criteria of a hoax?

You were asking people to unflag and get this thread put in the hoax section.

Can you explain yourself?

Originally posted by my3911
So.... if the other object(s) are pacing along with this "comet", then we may have a chance of an impact at the end of October or beginning of November. Time to party it up!

No, because the orbit of comet Elenin isnt "flat", but inclined slightly, and the earth will pas "over" that line of debris.

reply to post by manticorex5


With respect, i think the wealth of supporting, circumstantial evidence for something particularly nasty heading our way is all around us, and i'm not talking about the economy.

Russia has been busy for the last year or so building many thousands of bunkers / shelters for it's citizens, 5000 originally, and now the word is they want more built.

The USA is doing the same, although i fear not specifically for the citizenry, and stockpiling $Billions worth of food and supplies. A US company named ARC who specialise in building military grade bunkers for the well heeled public, have a backlog of orders for their product spanning several years. Even if you had the money, they couldn't build you a bunker.

Norway has built Arctic seed vaults, buried into mountain sides to store and protect our planets flora diversity, which obviously alludes to a expected or possible destruction of existing flora (plants and vegetation)

In the UK, a few years ago £10 Million was spent 'upgrading' the bunker beneath Downing Street, and many other highbrow figures were spending similar amounts to build their own bunkers. No word about public bunkers for UK citizens.

Add to this recent discoveries in space borne objects, as per this thread and it makes for a particularly worrisome scenario, especially with those of us with young a family.

People need to make the distinction between so called scaremongering, which does go on a lot here and forewarning, there's a big difference between the two. The above countries certainly feel there is need to expend significant resources, and that doesn't usually happen in response to unfounded scaremongering voices, if anything it's enacted on hard scientific evidence.

Being scared might save your life. Being complacent probably won't.

To say 'there's nothing we could do anyway' is a fallacy. Knowing the facts in a timely manner would enable survival supplies to be gathered, shelters to be constructed, and population relocation from potential or predicted impact zones to be carried out without a last minute dash for life.

Hopefully, this will all come to nothing, being a father of young children, obviously i sincerely hope so.

reply to post by CaptainInstaban


I already said I didn't think the OP knowingly posted this as a hoax, so stop trying to find something that isn't there.

Fact is the photos from the OP were not taken in August.

And in my opinion should be placed in the hoax forum. BUT I doubt it will.

All of this I have already said, don't see why I need to repeat myself.

Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by my3911
So.... if the other object(s) are pacing along with this "comet", then we may have a chance of an impact at the end of October or beginning of November. Time to party it up!

No, because the orbit of comet Elenin isnt "flat", but inclined slightly, and the earth will pas "over" that line of debris.

I said CHANCE, and what I mean by CHANCE, is that these other objects have a CHANCE of impacting us or our moon. Again.... CHANCE. Also, isn't it strange that FEMA is conducting the first ever nation wide emergency broadcast "test" on November 11th?

Again apologies to anyone noticing i did not read all the posts int he thread. If this has already been raised as an issue...could it be the binary asteroid that is supposed to be on it's way in november this year? I can't remember if it was called honda or it was the other one with no name just a number...in any case it is supposed to come closer to us than Elenin and is also to be larger in size i think one is 0.5km is diameters and the other one 1.5km or something like that. I'm sorry I don't have time to pull up the details ( that i found earlier this year on the nasa asteroid watch out page) but i am sure it is all still there to see). My main computer is down and I had saved the links and downloaded pages on there...if i get to it i will post it. I'd love to hear what the experts has to say on that.

Here is the list of close approaches this year neo.jpl.nasa.gov...

COuld it be this one? 138524 (2000 OJ8) - ssd.jpl.nasa.gov...

Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by manticorex5

 

With respect, i think the wealth of supporting, circumstantial evidence for something particularly nasty heading our way is all around us, and i'm not talking about the economy.

Russia has been busy for the last year or so building many thousands of bunkers / shelters for it's citizens, 5000 originally, and now the word is they want more built.

The USA is doing the same, although i fear not specifically for the citizenry, and stockpiling $Billions worth of food and supplies. A US company named ARC who specialise in building military grade bunkers for the well heeled public, have a backlog of orders for their product spanning several years. Even if you had the money, they couldn't build you a bunker.

Norway has built Arctic seed vaults, buried into mountain sides to store and protect our planets fauna diversity, which obviously alludes to a expected or possible destruction of existing fauna (plants and vegetation)

In the UK, a few years ago £10 Million was spent 'upgrading' the bunker beneath Downing Street, and many other highbrow figures were spending similar amounts to build their own bunkers. No word about public bunkers for UK citizens.

Add to this recent discoveries in space borne objects, as per this thread and it makes for a particularly worrisome scenario, especially with those of us with young a family.

People need to make the distinction between so called scaremongering, which does go on a lot here and forewarning, there's a big difference between the two. The above countries certainly feel there is need to expend significant resources, and that doesn't usually happen in response to unfounded scaremongering voices, if anything it's enacted on hard scientific evidence.

Being scared might save your life. Being complacent probably won't.

To say 'there's nothing we could do anyway' is a fallacy. Knowing the facts in a timely manner would enable survival supplies to be gathered, shelters to be constructed, and population relocation from potential or predicted impact zones to be carried out without a last minute dash for life.

Hopefully, this will all come to nothing, being a father of young children, obviously i sincerely hope so.

Or they just being caution for encase something bad happen like Yellowstone popin or similar but perhaps not... Rather safe than sorry and many people know more than you possible think know some bad bad things lurk around the corner and the debunker's are just those greedy to safe them-self trying to comfort us not to prepare because if everyone prepares...

reply to post by spikey


You've got a very good point, with the exception of the economy. I think it figures in with it. We all know that for the last for the last couple years under President Bush we've been spending alot of money, then under obama the spending went into overdrive. Then if I can find a clip of obama after the first meeting with Bush, I can still remember his face before and after, before he was all smiles, after he looked sick almost scared. And soon as he took office that's when the spending went into overdrive.

Any idea what this thing will look like when it gets closer? Will ppl in the northern hemisphere be able to see it when it passes by?

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by MasterAndrew

 

None that aren't doing more important things. Things that have been scheduled for a long time before the comet was discovered. It's an unimportant comet that is passing through the field of view of STEREO B.

But maybe they'll be able to squeeze some time in at some point.

It maybe unimportant but with all the hysteria it would help. Plus I don't know, I kinda doubt that they don't want to take amazing pictures. I think it's alot more simple than that, what things are they doing that are more important that they can't maneuver equipment to dedicate some time to document it. Isn't the size and speed of C/2010 x1 still being questioned? How can we predict how a small object will orbit the sun, isn't there a chance it could be faster or slower. Isn't that the problem?

reply to post by Chadwickus


Well, I asked you what the exact problem was, I did not see you say that the wrong date was the reason for labeling it a hoax.

So that´s it then, the only thing you could find that was false, and so it was a hoax.

Whatever happened to someone posting a theory, that is then scrutinized and perhaps debunked.

Why does it have to be a hoax even if an explanation seems to be found?

Originally posted by Chance321
reply to post by spikey

 

You've got a very good point, with the exception of the economy. I think it figures in with it. We all know that for the last for the last couple years under President Bush we've been spending alot of money, then under obama the spending went into overdrive. Then if I can find a clip of obama after the first meeting with Bush, I can still remember his face before and after, before he was all smiles, after he looked sick almost scared. And soon as he took office that's when the spending went into overdrive.

Yip pretending to be "bankrupt" to prepare for disaster.

I would like to see something from the MLM regarding this? - Are there anything?

Or is it a hoax like usual?

Originally posted by StratosFear
Any idea what this thing will look like when it gets closer? Will ppl in the northern hemisphere be able to see it when it passes by?

It looks like the Wal*Mart smiley face....

make sure to wave as it passes by


Seriously though, I've heard both sides... that you will be able to see it, and that you won't. Best just to wait and find out

reply to post by thestupidguy


Sure, these preparations could be a precautionary measure against Earth changes, such as you mention.

Yellowstone is a major concern and a supervolcanic eruption would certainly cause massive planetary destruction, not limited to the immediate blast zone.

A 'nuclear winter' type situation could ensue which of course would mean death of large percentages of both animal and plant based life. Dust and debris thrown into the atmosphere would create an atmospheric 'blanket' causing Solar energy reaching the Earth to be greatly diminished, crops would fail on a planetary scale, concentrated acid rain would poison the oceans and the forests, leading to the inevitable effects on both human and animal life.

These effects could last for anything up to five years/60 months, before the situation would start to improve.

Curious to note that the US company ARC mentioned in my last post, has designed their bunkers/shelters to be stocked with provisions and essentials to preserve life for up to five years.

Originally posted by thestupidguy

Originally posted by Chance321
reply to post by spikey

 

You've got a very good point, with the exception of the economy. I think it figures in with it. We all know that for the last for the last couple years under President Bush we've been spending alot of money, then under obama the spending went into overdrive. Then if I can find a clip of obama after the first meeting with Bush, I can still remember his face before and after, before he was all smiles, after he looked sick almost scared. And soon as he took office that's when the spending went into overdrive.

Yip pretending to be "bankrupt" to prepare for disaster.

Hopefully guys, the real reasons for handing trillions $/£/E away wasn't to stave off an economic crisis, but rather the 'crisis' was contrived in order to divert resources to covertly build facilities to protect the citizenry.

reply to post by AzazeI


You're just a Phage follower, blindly I might add.

Phage disregards important information all the time - I've observed it for years.

Sometimes he knows his stuff I'll give him that, but when he doesn't know what something is, he passes things off, under the guise of something that he "sounds like" he knows what he's talking about, when in fact he doesn't. Phage's answers are sometimes no more than a guess based on probability and his own assumption.

What pi**es me off personally, is that with his guess, all of you blind Phage followers cease all your own research and automatically assume Phage's assumption as your own, and that's that, end of. Rediculous! Stand on your own 2 feet for God's sake!

In answer to your question... I don't think it's a hot pixel, at all.

Phage already said numerous times that he was incorrect with the hot pixels and that they are asteroids. Give him a break......find something else to pick on.

reply to post by RUSSO


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RUSSO, congratz on the informative thread . Its well put together with visuals for many to see that something is out there celestial related 1 enjoyed viewing all the replies last night and 1 must say whatever they are in time Earth shall see. 1 isnt going to go too outta box with my input as your OP basically shares what some need to see. So with that STARZ for the data shared within the thread my friend and thanks again 1 enjoyed checking it out as well.


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Why does there seem to be,what looks like reflections from the bodys of mass shown?

Just wondering.

Cheers