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London riots spreading to Birmingham, Leeds

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posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by EmVeeFF
Something I've been wondering for a lil while....

How did someone get shot? Aren't there no guns carried by civilians and police in UK (excluding criminals and military of course...)


The reason governments force mandatroy anti-gun laws is to keep the people disarmed so there can't be another revolution. Just because people own guns doesnt make them criminals soley out for the purpose of robbing and murdering. Most people carry firearms for protection, i mean, criminals are going to have them, do you want to be their willing victims by having no protection?

Theres a couple of old sayings "never bring a knife to a gun fight" and "better to have it and not need it, than to not have it and need it".
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posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by Wo0kiEE
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How's Stoke? all quiet?


And rainy.

I suspect the only thing that's going to be smashed around here tonight is me celebrating my birthday.

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posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Suspiria

Originally posted by Wo0kiEE
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How's Stoke? all quiet?


And rainy.


Nice n warm down here in London. & on that note I wish you all well & keep safe, lets hope the streets remain quiet

Peace



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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Kicking off in Brum now, apparently..

Just had an internal mail advising that we have had to shut our office in Central Birmingham due to "escalating violence in the immediate area of Cornwall Street has forced the hand of the PSCC......there is NO NED support at this time...."

So not only is this unrest causing disruption locally, we have now lost the department that allocates us field engineer resource, affecting our National operations...



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 11:26 AM
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I have been told that it has been planned for a day or two for there to be serious disturbances in The Midlands today, but there is also expected to be a very high turnout from the major Midland mobs intending to 'deter' any would be rioters and looters.
Could be interesting.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 11:43 AM
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An interesting take on Mark Duggan;

dougiebrimson.wordpress.com...

If you are unaware of who Dougie is here's his wiki entry

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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no wonder they pissed



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 06:15 PM
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You have a few good points.

Thanks for the reply.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 06:19 PM
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I've heard nothing of anything kicking off in birmingham, apparently the muslims are praying untill midnight, and its only 00:17 at the moment.

My guess is that this could carry on, quite possibly. However, i believe if it where to carry on, it wont be until a few days time, wait for the police to settle down and for transport to get back to normal so more people can come and join in.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 08:17 PM
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Englishmen has become less inteligent nation in the Europe. Sorry if i ofend some Englishman.
But something is very wrong in England. I compare it to other west Europe countries.

Scots should leave that madness when they can. It could be soon to late for them.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 08:27 PM
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Thats like saying all americans are stupid because of the people on jersy shore.

2nd.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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Scotland has as much problems within its society, as England does. So you could say the exact same thing about the Scottish being stupid or dumb. Or the Welsh.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by AnonymousFem
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Scotland has as much problems within its society, as England does. So you could say the exact same thing about the Scottish being stupid or dumb. Or the Welsh.


Well, some individues tried to organise same riots in Glasgow. But they didn´t suceded.

Every society has problems. This that happened in England i haven´t seen under my 2 years as soldier in the war.
And in the war everything is, less or more, up to your conscience .

Those hundreds and thousands of rioters are a product of english society. Not Danish society, not German, not Polish.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:22 PM
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And let´´s not mix this in England with riots in for instance Greece.
In Greece people have more problems than Englishmen, but their society is not so #ed up as english.
They had violent protests, but they didn´t looted shops as thousands did in UK.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by Trolloks
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Thats like saying all americans are stupid because of the people on jersy shore.

2nd.


I didn´t said they are stupid. Don´t put your words here. You have serious lists with nationalities and IQ. It is not about stupidity.

Obviously something is very, very wrong in England. Education ? Parents IQ, they can´t teach kids right values ?

Maybe UK inovation "political correctness" is finally taking its first victims ?



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:51 PM
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apart of it is education and the parents, another part of it is gang culture. this has not just happened overnight, it has been going on for a while. they commit crime and get away with it, they have learned that as long as they are in a group they can take from people and they will not fight back. the parents do not give a crap about them and could not care less (parents should be charged and billed for crimes to and look on as a faliure to be a responsible parent) infact i have heard stories of parents telling their kids to do things so that they have another income stream.

these gangs have plagued many area's and intimidated and terrorised many a resident before these riots broke out, and they have been able to get away with it, soft sentences and in some cases nothing done about it at all. they get it into their heads that they can run the streets and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
the more they get away with the worse crimes they start to commit.

they grow bolder... it is nothing new, they just got bolder. other people who are not normally involved in these gangs decided to take advantage and loot what they could to. but mostly it is just the gangs coming together to take stuff and commit their usual crimes but on a bigger scale.

everybody is shocked about the boy who was punched, then helped up and robbed, i agree they are scum, but i do not get why people are shocked, it happens all the time to people at the hands of these thugs, it just normally happens on housing estates not in commercial areas. they work in gangs and pick on the vunerable or exposed.

they get away with it, and do more and they will continue to do more and get worse untill people say enough is enough, and i don't just mean with the riots, but their mentality in general, even when they do it in a poor run down housing estate like they have been for years and nobody gave a crap.


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posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 11:16 PM
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This is what needs to happen




I agree with them smashing up banks,that Charge us with ridiculously high amounts of interest, and shops that sell trainers from Vietnam and other poor country's that were bought for penny's and sold here for rip off amounts,

This is only the begging, wait another few years, and riots will have broken out everywhere. it wont be long before Muslim gangs take to the streets, rioting for there own beliefs, and when they do that will spark of a chain reaction in every city in Britain and maybe Europe, a lot worse than now. but no body but the Government are to blame for that.now they will learn the hard way.

I hate living in a country where the system works against me, no matter how hard i work, i am constantly bombarded with tax raises and such that keep me in debt shackles, well the rich man effortlessly gets richer by the day, i think a civil war or similar to one is the answer, Every bank in England needs raising to the ground, and everyone should stop paying taxes for a few weeks let the government sweat it out, till changes are made that give us all equal benifits, and not just the rich,
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posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 11:23 PM
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i have seen hardly any muslims rioting and looting why do the muslims keep getting bought into this?



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 12:11 AM
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I am Actually shocked they haven't joined in, Then again Muslims will become a target of most whites and blacks, gang wise we hate each other,

You see most of the camel jockeys standing out side there temples with baseball bats and such lol, Regardless i live in Leeds and live no where near the city centers so it wont effect me, and i find it quite amusing, if i had the chance id love to loot an apple store, i disagree with damaging peoples homes or family businesses, but i couldnt give a # about big greedy corporations like apple and asda, and Banks they deserve to be looted, For once its them getting there back doors smashed in lol



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 12:27 AM
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I guarantee though if you really wanted to spark things off, all you would after do is petrol bomb a mosque and Muslims will go insane,



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