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Scientologists know a great deal about thought control, social control, rhetorical judo (defeat by misdirection, deft use of logical fallacies) and high pressure sales, though as victims of their own technology, they wouldn't characterize it that way.
Originally posted by Symbiot
The Catholic church is one of the wealthiest organizations on the planet, it would only stand to reason that they had foreseen great competition with the advent of science. As one of the wealthiest organizations on Earth they had the money and power to carry out their best course of action, take control of their new competition.
The Catholic church had already created several secret organizations. The Knight's Templar created an organization known as Freemasonry. From Freemasonry came Alister Crowley who formed another secret organization called the Order of the Temple of the East, Ordo Templi Orientis. From this OTO came L Ron Hubbard who then formed Scientology. Scientology has ties to the Catholic church through several secret organizations, it's the same as money laundering which is to conceal the source by channeling through intermediaries, in this case those intermediaries are:
Catholicism --> Knights Templar --> Freemasonry --> Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO) --> Scientology
The average Scientologist might consider the Catholic church their enemy, but they have no idea that they are actually working for the pope rather than against him.
One theory of the origins of Freemasonry claims direct descent from the historical Knights Templar through its final fourteenth-century members who took refuge in Scotland, or other countries where the Templar suppression was not enforced. Although the theory may not be dismissed, it is usually deprecated on grounds of lack of evidence by both masonic authorities and historians.
He had also claimed to be a Freemason, but the organisations he joined are not considered regular by Masonic bodies in the Anglo-American tradition.
The Spiritual Father of Ordo Templi Orientis was Carl Kellner
In 1895, Kellner began to discuss his idea for founding an Academia Masonica with his associate Theodor Reuss (Merlin or Peregrinus, June 28, 1855 - Oct. 28, 1923). During these discussions, Kellner decided that the Academia Masonica should be called the "Oriental Templar Order."
As a journalist, Reuss travelled frequently to England. On one such trip, he met Aleister Crowley (Baphomet, Oct. 12, 1875 - Dec. 1, 1947), whom he admitted to the three degrees of O.T.O. in 1910.
Scientology accounts do not mention Hubbard's involvement in occultism. He is instead described as "continu[ing] to write to help support his research" during this period into "the development of a means to better the condition of man." The Church of Scientology has nonetheless acknowledged Hubbard's involvement with the OTO; a 1969 statement, written by Hubbard himself, said:
Hubbard broke up black magic in America ... L. Ron Hubbard was still an officer of the U.S. Navy, because he was well known as a writer and a philosopher and had friends amongst the physicists, he was sent in to handle the situation. He went to live at the house and investigated the black magic rites and the general situation and found them very bad. ...
Hubbard's mission was successful far beyond anyone's expectations. The house was torn down. Hubbard rescued a girl they were using. The black magic group was dispersed and destroyed and has never recovered.
Originally posted by tom502
Scientology makes more sense than Islam or Christianity.
By tradition, O.T.O. traces its spiritual origins to the foundation of the Order of Knights Templar in 1108. More historically, its immediate antecedents (according to Aleister Crowley) were the 18th-century Rosicrucian Orders. The initial conferences that actually led to the formation of O.T.O. as a modern organization were held in 1895 in Europe.
Aleister Crowley was admitted to the O.T.O. in 1910. He was appointed national Grand Master X° for Britain and Ireland in 1912, and assumed worldwide leadership as O.H.O. (Outer Head of the Order) in 1922. He completely revised the Order's rituals and structure, conforming them to the Law of Thelema.
O.T.O. was originally associated with certain European rites of Freemasonry, but long ago separated itself from Masonry altogether. For further information, please see our history and initiation pages. O.T.O. membership is not incompatible with membership in most Masonic organizations.
Originally posted by Pocky
reply to post by Symbiot
I recall a guy who called into CoasttoCoast Am and gave dibs on a couple of famous people that he had read files on from the DOD Library, and one of those people was Hubbard.
He said that Hubbard's DOD file stated he was an Army/ Naval Psychologist and had access and or clearance to information read the profiles on all personell. Also, he said that it mentioned that his job was to study the effects of atomic particles on the mind.
In a book called Cosmic Trigger 1, the author, Robert Anton Wilson says that other sources claim that Hubbard was sent to infiltrate OTO as a naval intelligence officer to break it up.
Anyway, I don't think the Catholic Church has the power to back things like what your saying OP. It is inteself an underling and a perfect hide-out tool for Satanist, but it is not high up enough to back anything, or green-light funding like that, they just aren't that high up in the Illuminati Pyramid.
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