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UFO Seen By Airplane Passenger - Aug. 2011 (+identical object from 2008!)

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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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This feels somewhat similar to something my boyfriend and I saw in August ’08. It is at least the closest video footage that I’ve seen...

We stepped outside to have a smoke after dinner and we both saw a very bright light moving at an insane speed, doing crazy turns very high in the sky, in a zig zag motion. I have no idea how long it lasted, anywhere from 5-12 seconds I’d guess. And then it shot straight up!

We sat down, I had to relight my smoke, and I just felt... weird. Like one of my senses was was going haywire. Then I realised... there was no sound during the entire thing. My boyfriend looked at me like “We just saw what we saw and you’re freaked out because there was no sound?!”.

Broken down -
White light - no colour to it.
Insane speed.
Mind boggling turns.
Shot straight up.
No sound.

Edit to add question: Can light do all of this? I think so?

Also no pics, sorry. I had a smoke in my mouth and almost dropped it when my bf screamed “*&#@&$^% look at that!!!”.

It took me a long time to come to a (right or wrong) conclusion that it was light. Pure and simple light. From where it came and where it went to I have no idea.

Don’t mean to derail the thread. Just thought I’d share my first hand account of something I felt looked similar.
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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:28 AM
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Looks like something I saw flying by one day while out in the garden. Can only describe it as a small white hockey puck moving in a straight line. Mother in law watched it with me.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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Even inside the aircraft at cruising speed does any one know if there would have been a sonic boom? I mean a pressure wave is a pressure wave even if you are moving along with it, right? Even if you didn't hear it would the wave not still have at minimum shook the plane any?

I cant get my head around the 150-250 miles away figure either, I'd like to see better math to prove that. It looks like it couldn't be more than 6-7 miles (maybe less) away but that is just eyeballing it from me. There really isn't much to gauge the distance with other than the clouds beyond and they dont look 150 miles away to me.150 miles away the thing would have to be miles X miles across to even get a glimpse of it

If not a reflection this thing looks as if it is moving at nearly twice the speed of the jet the camera is in... or do we have to speculate that somehow this thing was exempt from atmospheric physics just for it to make sense at all...
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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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The bright light speeding UFO reminds me of the classic video of a bright light ufo speeding across the US desert's that we often seen on UFO videos in the 90s.

Anybody remember that or have a link to that?



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:42 AM
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What if it is light? Quite honestly, I don’t even know if this makes sense... but what if it is not a solid object at all?

Would you still have the same questions? I’m not being sarcastic or rude. I am truly curious.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:44 AM
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K, I found the math involved with calculating horizon at altitude and until we know , not assume, what the jets altitude is the horizon is a bit up for grabs. A jet at 30K your horizon will be about 212 miles away and by the graph, the lower you the closer it gets of course... but, at present this requires ANOTHER assumption.
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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Lost_Mind
Even inside the aircraft at cruising speed does any one know if there would have been a sonic boom? I mean a pressure wave is a pressure wave even if you are moving along with it, right? Even if you didn't hear it would the wave not still have at minimum shook the plane any?

I cant get my head around the 150-250 miles away figure either, I'd like to see better math to prove that. It looks like it couldn't be more than 6-7 miles (maybe less) away but that is just eyeballing it from me. There really is much to gauge the distance with other than the clouds beyond and they dont look 150 miles away to me.150 miles away the thing would have to be miles X miles across to even get a glimpse of it

If not a reflection this thing looks as if it is moving at nearly twice the speed of the jet the camera is in... or do we have to speculate that somehow this thing was exempt from atmospheric physics just for it to make sense at all...


Purely speculative of course but as an example (one of a few incidents) which could possibly be a similar UFO:



In theory that object could and I repeat could be a mile wide.
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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:59 AM
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Once again, an object a mile(s) wide would have a preposterous atmospheric shock wave around it even at subsonic speeds. And we would have to "pretend" that it was somehow miraculously exempt from known physics to do what it did and not affect the jet in any way. The more one speculates on this stuff the less real the conclusions become...



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 12:09 PM
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The more I watch the vid, the more I think the brightness/contrast settings changing when they did is suspect. Prior to the darkening I doubt anyone would have even seen this "light" zip by. It seems too preconceived or just to damn lucky it happened. Usually when a camera auto adjusts there is visual evidence on film that prompted the adjustment and I didn't see anything happen to warrant the change.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by Lost_Mind
Once again, an object a mile(s) wide would have a preposterous atmospheric shock wave around it even at subsonic speeds. And we would have to "pretend" that it was somehow miraculously exempt from known physics to do what it did and not affect the jet in any way. The more one speculates on this stuff the less real the conclusions become...


On a counter point, from all the UFO reports I've read over, even witnesses saying "the object flew at enormous speeds", I can't recall one ever saying it made a sonic boom or shockwave. There are things we know and things we don't.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by Zcustosmorum

Originally posted by Lost_Mind
Once again, an object a mile(s) wide would have a preposterous atmospheric shock wave around it even at subsonic speeds. And we would have to "pretend" that it was somehow miraculously exempt from known physics to do what it did and not affect the jet in any way. The more one speculates on this stuff the less real the conclusions become...


On a counter point, from all the UFO reports I've read over, even witnesses saying "the object flew at enormous speeds", I can't recall one ever saying it made a sonic boom or shockwave. There are things we know and things we don't.


Did the object disturb the clouds?



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 12:17 PM
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To me, the video looks like it's darkened so we can see the flash better. It looks like post-production editing to enhance the streak.

I say this because its clearly visible in the first few frames. Being an amateur film maker, I know how easy it is to spot things wrong with shots and angles and what not by stepping through the frames one by one. If he was doing that, the streak of light would be SO blatantly obvious, to me anyway.

Also, if it was light reflecting off the planes windows, you would see two streaks of light, as there's too bits of glass running parallel to each other.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by VraxUK
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To me, the video looks like it's darkened so we can see the flash better. It looks like post-production editing to enhance the streak.

I say this because its clearly visible in the first few frames. Being an amateur film maker, I know how easy it is to spot things wrong with shots and angles and what not by stepping through the frames one by one. If he was doing that, the streak of light would be SO blatantly obvious, to me anyway.

Also, if it was light reflecting off the planes windows, you would see two streaks of light, as there's too bits of glass running parallel to each other.


DSLR (Canon EOS 60D - APS-C) AUTO EXPOSING.

No big secret there. You will also notice that it is apparently travellign FASTER than the camera can capture. This is very common on insects that are mistaken for "rods" (they are just very fast insects).

They simply travel far too fast for the camera to keep up


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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by JennaDarling

Originally posted by Zcustosmorum

Originally posted by Lost_Mind
Once again, an object a mile(s) wide would have a preposterous atmospheric shock wave around it even at subsonic speeds. And we would have to "pretend" that it was somehow miraculously exempt from known physics to do what it did and not affect the jet in any way. The more one speculates on this stuff the less real the conclusions become...


On a counter point, from all the UFO reports I've read over, even witnesses saying "the object flew at enormous speeds", I can't recall one ever saying it made a sonic boom or shockwave. There are things we know and things we don't.


Did the object disturb the clouds?



I can recall some people saying that some UFOs disturbed the clouds, although don't think you can tell here though.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 12:57 PM
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Why can't this be a meteor? It's almost how I would expect one to look, if it hadn 't broken up yet, except that there should be a trail, which I can't see.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 12:57 PM
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This is a very interesting video indeed.

I don't know much about CGI... but if you notice at 1:03 when they change the "filters" it shows it as a solid object in frame. Wouldn't a reflection in that filter disappear?



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by disownedsky
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Why can't this be a meteor? It's almost how I would expect one to look, if it hadn 't broken up yet, except that there should be a trail, which I can't see.


Only reason this cannot be a meteor is because meteors do not travel a perfect horizontal trajectory. And also as you mentioned... a rock entering our atmosphere at that speed would have some atmospheric repercussions.. hence the tail



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 01:11 PM
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Without seeing the original video after it goes through the youtube crap, it can't really be discussed intelligently.

And since everyone knows I am the least intelligent person around here, I wont let that stop me from giving my opinion (as it seems the same for many of you as well, lol). This video is crap.

My first question, is how was it filmed? Not what kind of camera (don't care) but how was it filmed? If you don't understand why I say that.......then you have never filmed out an aircraft window before, lol.

Second, it it is not a reflection, my best guess is that it is some moron trying his hand at animating a basic thing on his computer. Although it would take someone like me a few minutes to do this, someone just wanted to screw around (or screw with the believer crowd as usual) could spend an hour working on something like this.

But, the believers like stuff like this, because it is "undebunkable". Undebunkable because of the quality of the evidence. So they tend to think that gives them a point on their side.....as if there even needs to be sides, there is either common sense and good evidence of complete ignorance. I know which side I am on....

I fly more than your average poster around here, that much I can assure you. I have seen numerous things out the window that can look like this (all reflections) from the idiot next to me opening his laptop, to the fat lady's powder mirror reflecting as she tries to make herself not look like a total pig...to the drink cart passing by. So there is also a good chance it could be a reflection.

Either way, nothing to see here and nothing to discuss, as usual the quality of the evidence seems to play directly into the hands of those that already believe....almost like religion.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by herruher
This is a very interesting video indeed.

I don't know much about CGI... but if you notice at 1:03 when they change the "filters" it shows it as a solid object in frame. Wouldn't a reflection in that filter disappear?

There is no "filter" in this world that can show if a group of pixels is a solid object. You can only change their colors. If the object suddenly disappeared with the use of a "filter", then it would be a sure hoax

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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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In theory that object could and I repeat could be a mile wide.


It also could be 10 miles wide or 1 inch. Its pointless speculating on the size because its impossible to tell when you dont know its distance from the camera lense.


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