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UFO Seen By Airplane Passenger - Aug. 2011 (+identical object from 2008!)

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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 10:01 AM
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This footage is interesting for me as I can't figure it out, not an expert on CGI but maybe a possibility. If it isn't and the object is actually there then that raises a a major question, did the pilots/control tower pick that up?

All input gratefully recieved:




Testing my new Canon 60D camera filming out of the window after a few weeks of running through the footage for other purposes I noticed what I thought was maybe light reflecting from the windows on board however looking closer I can see there looks to be more to it.Text


Also, there's similar footage, I guees for comparison reasons at the end:


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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 10:12 AM
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Both videos looked very similar. The object looks more like a streak of light or energy, rather than a solid craft. This one has me baffled. What ever it is, it is hauling some serious butt.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 10:12 AM
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It's not CGI.
The non UFO argument can be that it's a reflection of light off the window from someone off to the side moving a light source quickly, like a flashlight moving left to right fast.

If it's not an internal light source streak, then this is a good capture of something unknown to us moving rapidly outside. I've seen quite a few videos slowed down showing similar streaking objects, if they are real, we'll never catch them to identify what they are.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 10:15 AM
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Interesting indeed, at the speed the aircraft is traveling, the object could have been stationary and it would have streaked like that in the camera. Might be CGI, not an expert myself, just like to view these videos. Im a bit skeptical of this video, but i like to keep an open mind



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 10:16 AM
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Its all CGI and pretty lame at that



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by anumohi
Its all CGI and pretty lame at that


Ok, can you be more productive in your idea?



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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I swear, the Things you see above the clouds, weird but cool UFO or a trick...we'll never know.Thanks for the share.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 10:20 AM
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In my opinion this is a fake. Notice that 9-10 seconds in there is a skip in the video. After the skip the whole image looks slightly darker and probably computer generated. I'n no expert when it comes to cgi, etc... but I did take a few photoshop classes in high school if that counts haha. I've never seen the older video before, but that looks much more plausible to me. I'm sure there is a thread on here about it somewhere.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 10:22 AM
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It overtook the plane so it was going much faster.

Its not impressive because it doesnt even look like anything, its just a streak of light that looks very small and looks like it passed very close.

It doesnt look real, I cant think of anything that it could have been so from what little info we have, I think its a hoax.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 10:22 AM
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come on guys.

clearly a seagull overtaking a jet airliner



but seriously the only thing that makes sense to me right now, is that it might be a reflection

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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 10:23 AM
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Very interesting find. I like them both.

CGI? I don't think so. Not that I would know but why bother with something this.. fast and mistakable?
You would make sure you had a defined image and position it differently...at least that's what I think.

There are people who say No, this makes it believable. You are not getting any attention at all by faking something like this, again, why bother?

This is not good enough to be CGI and so I determine it is, they both are real and separate events deserving investigation or question anyway.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 10:26 AM
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www.dpreview.com...

here is the camera in question, wonder if it was using a packaged lens or a different lens.

18MP APS-C CMOS sensor
ISO 100-3200 (expandable to 12,800)
5.3 fps continuous shooting
1080p HD video recording with manual controls
SD / SDHC / SDXC storage
In-camera raw development
Subject modes with 'Ambience Selection' (Standard, Vivid, Soft, Warm, Intense, Cool, Brighter, Darker and Monochrome)
In-camera Creative Filters (special effects)
Fully articulated 3.0" screen (3:2)

Was he using EF or EF-S lens on the camera?

Any info on this settings?

What is the airplane make and model? What speed does it usually cruise at?



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 10:28 AM
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Just saying its CGI doesnt prove its a Hoax.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by JennaDarling

www.dpreview.com...

here is the camera in question, wonder if it was using a packaged lens or a different lens.

18MP APS-C CMOS sensor
ISO 100-3200 (expandable to 12,800)
5.3 fps continuous shooting
1080p HD video recording with manual controls
SD / SDHC / SDXC storage
In-camera raw development
Subject modes with 'Ambience Selection' (Standard, Vivid, Soft, Warm, Intense, Cool, Brighter, Darker and Monochrome)
In-camera Creative Filters (special effects)
Fully articulated 3.0" screen (3:2)

Was he using EF or EF-S lens on the camera?

Any info on this settings?

What is the airplane make and model? What speed does it usually cruise at?



The average cruising speed of a jet liner is between 475 to 600 mph, depending on model. Not sure what this is but probably a twin engine, also not sure of camera settings and can only assume the light fade just before object appears would be a setting change on camera.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by Zcustosmorum

Originally posted by JennaDarling

www.dpreview.com...

here is the camera in question, wonder if it was using a packaged lens or a different lens.

18MP APS-C CMOS sensor
ISO 100-3200 (expandable to 12,800)
5.3 fps continuous shooting
1080p HD video recording with manual controls
SD / SDHC / SDXC storage
In-camera raw development
Subject modes with 'Ambience Selection' (Standard, Vivid, Soft, Warm, Intense, Cool, Brighter, Darker and Monochrome)
In-camera Creative Filters (special effects)
Fully articulated 3.0" screen (3:2)

Was he using EF or EF-S lens on the camera?

Any info on this settings?

What is the airplane make and model? What speed does it usually cruise at?



The average cruising speed of a jet liner is between 475 to 600 mph, depending on model. Not sure what this is but probably a twin engine, also not sure of camera settings and can only assume the light fade just before object appears would be a setting change on camera.


The light fade was the auto exposure kicking in as he probably got the bright reflection / colour off the airplane wing triggering the reexposure calibrating or from the cabin interior lighting or window reflection.

Just trying to get some "facts" into the thread based on "what we know" and then we can speculate around those firm facts.

Most likely it was a kit lens which would be EF-S for that camera body for the crop factor of the APS-C sensor (smaller than full frame 35mm). Usualy kit lens for EF-S are 18-55mm or there abouts, with or without image stabilisation depending.

He looks like he had it focused on infinity (or there abouts) and at a wide field as you could see the cabin interior window.

So that object would have been moving faster than sound, Im guessing (not that air pressure would be an issue).

There is capture gaps in the recording and the speed of that sensor recording and writing to the SDHC (most likely HC and not XC card), assuming 20 to 25 fps, the object would have been much faster to miss capturing frames.

Can we estimate its distance from the airplane based on the clouds?



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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 10:50 AM
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If it's not a reflection and is actually there then it appears from just below the horizon line(not sure how far away that would make it?). Found this though:

Height (meters) Distance (km) Height(feet) Distance (miles)
0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1 3.6 3.3 2.1
2 5.1 6.6 3.0
3 6.2 9.8 3.7
4 7.1 13.1 4.3
5 8.0 16.4 4.8
6 8.7 19.7 5.2
7 9.4 23.0 5.7
8 10.1 26.2 6.1
9 10.7 29.5 6.4
10 11.3 32.8 6.8
20 16.0 65.6 9.6
30 19.5 98.4 11.7
40 22.6 131.2 13.5
50 25.2 164.0 15.1
60 27.6 196.8 16.6
70 29.9 229.6 17.9
80 31.9 262.4 19.2
90 33.9 295.2 20.3
100 35.7 328.0 21.4
1000 112.8 3280.0 67.7
2000 159.6 6560.0 95.7
5000 252.3 16,400.0 151.4
10,000 356.9 32,800.0 214.2
12,000 391.0 39,360.0 234.6
100,000 1,132.7 328,000.0 679.6
500,000 2,572.0 1,640,000.0 1543.2
1,000,000,000 1,006,344.9 3,280,000,000.0 603,806.9

Average cruising altitude is around 30,000 plus feet.






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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 10:57 AM
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That's clearly swamp gas.

C'mon people!



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:09 AM
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Or to make it more readable:

en.wikipedia.org...:How_far_away_is_the_horizon.png

The object is probably between 150 to 250 miles away.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:16 AM
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Thats clearny not swamp gas.

"Debunkers" these days



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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Interesting video.

Theres no way to tell its distance just by its position in relation to the horizon line. It could be at any distance in a straight line between the camera lense and its position below the horizon line.

Theres no way to tell its speed because we dont know its size or distance from the camera. Although it would have to be moving faster than the aircraft.

I have no idea if it is real at this point. Its impossible to analyse accurately from a second gen youtube video.


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