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Londons BURNING!

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posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by Drezden
It's hilarious that the arrogant hypocritical generalizers of the UK have to see that their country and citizens are not superior or more civilized than the U.S. Though we knew all along that it was just you projecting your insecurities onto us because it was easy and made you feel better about yourselves and your country. Maybe this will humble you. If I followed your example I would pronounce all British as violent and vicious creatures, but thankfully I know what generalizations are.


Is this really the time for that?




posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:30 PM
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Gotta add in the rival gang factor as well, they are rioting but when rival gangs are meeting up in these riots then the consequences will be dire as well. I seen one of the maps rival gangs met up in a riot and they attacked eachother.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by X-Pensive Trash
Seems there was a brawl in Birmingham between the yobs and a group of Asian youths trying to ward them off. Reports saying three Asians were struck by a vehicle, 2 of whom have now died. Very sad that it's come to this.

birminghamriots2011.tumblr.com...

wow......just as its died down abit this could explode in a big way
thats why i was saying vigilantes don't help the situation now look whats happend



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir

Originally posted by Drezden
It's hilarious that the arrogant hypocritical generalizers of the UK have to see that their country and citizens are not superior or more civilized than the U.S. Though we knew all along that it was just you projecting your insecurities onto us because it was easy and made you feel better about yourselves and your country. Maybe this will humble you. If I followed your example I would pronounce all British as violent and vicious creatures, but thankfully I know what generalizations are.


Is this really the time for that?


Now is the only time



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:35 PM
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There is now a news blackout in the UK - BBC, Sky and ITV are not covering the death of the two Asians or the reports of a police officer being shot in Aston. The major news outlets have obviously been ordered by the PM to keep quiet. There is complete mayhem going on right now in England and we're not hearing about most of it



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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By far the most popular comment on Sky News live updates was this:


Watch the news and see who are commiting the crimes....95% Blacks out of control and no fear of the law. The only thing law bidders can do is vote BNP to sort this mob out. Liebour and the Tories won't get tough. You know they won't.

Recommend 1,443

Runner up had 984

Is Sky News like a news outlet for the right-wing/far-right in Great Britain? Because if it is not I think this should definitely be something to watch.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by Aceofclubs
reply to post by DevilsApprentice
 


really? thats very irresponsable.


Indeed it is !

Try this scenario ..

Vigilantes attack a group of rioters , a "child" as defined under UK law is beaten and killed , said minor is later proven to innocent of any wrong doing ( remember those CCT images currently being used are a two edged sword )

Do you seriously believe that the MET or the current Government will turn a blind eye ?

Remember that all this originally started over a death , and then escalated in uncontrolled rioting
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posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:45 PM
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From the brawl on Dudley road

birminghamriots2011.tumblr.com...


Reports that one of the other men involved in the road collision has now also passed away in the hospital


From what I see on that website, these guys were trying to defend their community and one has died for it
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From Sky news

news.sky.com...


One of our cameraman punched in the neck tonight and producer's car wrecked in Manchester.

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posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 09:50 PM
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With now more than half the British police force drafted into London that leaves the rest of the cities open for riots with little man power to police them. Time to kill two birds with one stone - bring the troops back home and put them out on the streets.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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www.guardian.co.uk...


According to Sky the C019 firearms officer has said that he never claimed Duggan had shot at him.

The firearms officer is understood to have told investigators that he opened fire because he believed he was in danger from a lethal weapon. Two shots were fired, it is understood; one hit Duggan and one missed, lodging in another officer's radio.


Don't know if that's been posted but thought it was interesting.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by X-Pensive Trash
Seems there was a brawl in Birmingham between the yobs and a group of Asian youths trying to ward them off. Reports saying three Asians were struck by a vehicle, 2 of whom have now died. Very sad that it's come to this.

birminghamriots2011.tumblr.com...


This is really upsetting!

This might come as a shock but i would bet a years wage that they were run over by bnp or edl racist scum!

Thoughts are with the families!

Journey well brothers!



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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Why does eveything have to be turned into a race issue? Given the situation (the Asian group were defending there community from the rioters), why would you assume it was BNP that ran the three guys over and not just rioting scumbags?



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:04 PM
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So mnay conflicting reports about this. The last thing i heard was that two shots were fired, one of which hit Duggan in the chest, the other hit him in the arm, went right through and ended up in the other officers radio. Now saying the other shot completly missed. Before that reports were saying he was shot in the face, whilst on the ground, not in the chest.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:07 PM
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Links please



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:13 PM
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Can't provide links i'm afraid, this was from hours ago and i'm not certain where it was i saw/heard this, though it would have either been on here or sky news.



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:19 PM
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You have some good search terms, I'm sure google can help.

www.google.co.uk...



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:29 PM
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Fine. Here's a report saying he was shot in the arm (though not where i first read it).

www.theatlanticwire.com...

And here's a report with a witness saying Dugann was on the ground when shot.

www.dailymail.co.uk...



posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 11:35 PM
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Just heard on Sky news that the third victim hit by the car has now died.

This is absolutely sickening, i can only hope the driver is caught and is justly dealt with.

Edit: Sky news now saying it's still two confirmed deaths.
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posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by 11I11

Originally posted by rigel4

Originally posted by 11I11
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I think the fact that there are no riots in Scotland, Northern Ireland or Wales says it all really. I dont need to explain further, i think we all know where i am coming from here.



As a Scott living in England, would you clarify your meaning please


To be honest i would rather not say as my view would probably be taken out of context and I would probably be labelled something which I certainly am not. You dont have to be a genius to work it out.



and you don't have to NOT be a genius to NOT work it out apparently.



maybe something to do with English cultural tolerance... or something about guns.


Anyway... perhaps I'll put it together here in a moment but I thought what you meant was that whoever had given the orders to do this (not that I think it is a * wholly conscious* orchestration but perhaps a partially conscious orchestration)... is that they had no jurisdiction or orders to do it any other country BUT the UK.

Oh BOY... that opens another can of worms in my mind. The gun laws in England. oh HOW CONVENIENT that they would have such laws there that would let this drag out. This proves a point about what the aftermath will be like when the SHTF (I don't really think that) without having to rack a bunch of gun toting citizen fr taking things into their own hands and too far.... because in some areas of the world, even in the US... if this had happened there, there would blood all over the streets.

now I'm even more confused about the motive. just when you think it is meant to paint a picture that if world currency falls and the SHTF that there will be civil war on the streets of the US. when you think about this, that is a notion we have to face and we can teach ourselves not to fall for it. Fist thing is that we have to recognize some things about this.... so the fact that it is being done in a place where there might be less injury or casualty could actually be a good thing to to give everyone who is watching the chance to sort this out in their own minds. Some times that's the only way people can learn but I am still VERY concerned about the true mailce of those with motives enough to do this.

i was talking to someone about it earlier and they seemed to think that it was totally and completely right for the people to defend what is theirs and even take shots.... but here is the thing- with scalar weapons, it presents a whole new dynamic and you can no longer say that it is fair.

...because these people may actually have no idea what the hell they are really doing.

Even on this site... even I know that the playing field needs to be leveled and this will mean some people who have things might not have those things anymore and i justify some sacrifices... right? sure... We ALL do. misinformed youths who are trying to make sense of the world and can't because hey simply do not have the information will spiral into nonsensical chaos if their energy levels are that of a negative nature... you see, to THEM... this makes perfect sense... perhaps. If they are doing this at their frustration for the world then that is their sacrifice.

once they have done what they have done, we may be able to learn something from this and keep it from happening elsewhere or get a handle on it sooner, especially if we can establish that it is orchestrated... then we can look at it for what it is and realize that we might need to exercise tolerance and understanding in this.
That would most likely help it to happen less.

We need to pray for these people that they are not being used as puppets and that if they get punished, their choices were by their own actions. We need to pray hat if these action were instigated, that they have mercy and come out of the danger soon, however they got mixed up in it or however they are being targeted if they in fact are.

I WISH they could prove an insidious weapon is being used here. God I wish somebody could prove that right now. that would save so much turmoil from happening in what is to come.
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posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 12:16 AM
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I would like to take this time to tell you that this will not get better. If this keeps happening Britain will be put under Martial Law, then an uprising from all citizens will ensue. I see a bloodbath of major proportions in the near future. If I'm wrong, then great, but I really don't see this playing out any other way.



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