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Originally posted by FOXMULDER147
RE: the gun debate
There may be some positive aspects of owning a gun. But the truth is: a situation like this would 1000x worse with guns involved.
The police are already out numbered. Imagine if they were also out gunned...
The official BlackBerry blog appears to have been hacked after Research In Motion, the maker of the popular smartphone line, announced its intentions to cooperate with police and assist in the aftermath of the London riots.
News of the hack quickly spread after a group called TeaMp0isoN posted a message on Twitter calling attention to a security attack. The group boasted that the hack took less than five minutes and placed a statement about the incident onto the compromised website:
Dear RIM,
You Will _NOT— assist the UK Police because if u do innocent members of the public who were at the wrong place at the wrong time and owned a blackberry will get charged for no reason at all, the Police are looking to arrest as many people as possible to save themselves from embarrassment…. if you do assist the police by giving them chat logs, gps locations, customer information & access to peoples BlackBerryMessengers you will regret it, we have access to your database which includes your employees information; e.g – Addresses, Names, Phone Numbers etc. – now if u assist the police, we _WILL— make this information public and pass it onto rioters…. do you really want a bunch of angry youths on your employees doorsteps? Think about it…. and don’t think that the police will protect your employees, the police can’t protect themselves let alone protect others….. if you make the wrong choice your database will be made public, save yourself the embarrassment and make the right choice. don’t be a puppet..
p.s – we do not condone in innocent people being attacked in these riots nor do we condone in small businesses being looted, but we are all for the rioters that are engaging in attacks on the police and government…. and before anyone says “the blackberry employees are innocent” no they are not! They are the ones that would be assisting the police.
This message is no longer visible as the BlackBerry blog appears to be entirely offline at this point. The official UK Twitter account for BlackBerry — which was where RIM initially announced its intentions to cooperate with authorities — has not issued any statements regarding the security breach.
Originally posted by blupblup
Exactly... didn't ONE guy with ONE gun kill 8 people the other day in the states?
And how many have died at the hands of thousands of UNARMED rioters and looters so far after 3 NIGHTS of this trouble....?
ONE.
The stats never back up what these idiots spout off.
Originally posted by moosevernel
Trouble starting in manchester apparently
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Originally posted by ZIPMATT
If any children get shot .....
remember how very angry indeed people rightly were about Jean Charles De Menezes.
I for one was absolutely livid about it, and totally ashamed for my country. And that's unusual for me ; normally I'm a just forward thinking historian
Originally posted by SecretFace
Don't believe all on twitter/Facebook! I was getting calls from so many last night saying I hear your town is up in smoke when I was standing in the middle of the town centre! People, for whatever reason, tend to get misinformed but it spreads like wild fire or riot fire!
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by NadaCambia
Look at the woman well dressed strolling by......I'm surprised those thugs don't try grab her handbag!
Originally posted by Flyer
Originally posted by SecretFace
Don't believe all on twitter/Facebook! I was getting calls from so many last night saying I hear your town is up in smoke when I was standing in the middle of the town centre! People, for whatever reason, tend to get misinformed but it spreads like wild fire or riot fire!
Exactly, they were saying its going off in Southampton and Hants police has reported theres no disorder anywhere in the county.
I think its an attempt to swell the numbers by getting more people to go there.
Originally posted by NadaCambia
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by NadaCambia
Look at the woman well dressed strolling by......I'm surprised those thugs don't try grab her handbag!
Most the reports from people is that these people aren't bothering normal people but only their shops, police and property.
Weird, but a lot of people have been saying that. Couple of blokes on Sky last night said they could have convos with the looters and they were just going for the gold as it were.
That'll probably change as more take a stand
Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
I've seen calls for rioters to be shot in this thread, and have a question for anyone who honestly will answer.
What would your true reaction be to seeing these kids being actually shot and laying bloodied in the streets?
Does anyone here really want to see that happen?
By the way, some western sources are reporting that there will be an increase in police numbers, and many will be armed, and may use "plastic bullets" ... which can cause serious injuries and even kill.
Answers/thoughts?